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re [VOTE] Release Empire-db version 2.0.5-incubating

+1
...sorry, was on holiday... just checked it out now, looks good!



from: Francis De Brabandere [mailto:francisdb@gmail.com]
sent: So 26.07.2009 17:15
to: empire-db-dev@incubator.apache.org
subject: [VOTE] Release Empire-db version 2.0.5-incubating
 
Hi,

Changelog:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/empire-db/tags/empire-db-parent-2.0.5-incubating/CHANGELOG.txt?revision=797936

Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/empire-db-staging-028/

Distribution files are located here
http://people.apache.org/~francisdb/empire-db/

Vote open for 72 hours.

[ ] +1
[ ] +0
[ ] -1


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Re: re [VOTE] Release Empire-db version 2.0.5-incubating

Posted by Francis De Brabandere <fr...@gmail.com>.
I know we need a second voting round. Sorry for the misuse of the word
"binding".
Thanks for explaining, will take care of those extra actions tomorrow

On Aug 4, 2009 12:44 a.m., "Martijn Dashorst" <ma...@gmail.com>
wrote:

One of the major benefits of graduating is that you don't have to wait
for your mentors (and Incubator PMC members) to vote +1 on a release
:)

Martijn

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Martijn Dashorst<ma...@gmail.com>
wrote: > On Mon, Aug ...
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Re: re [VOTE] Release Empire-db version 2.0.5-incubating

Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
One of the major benefits of graduating is that you don't have to wait
for your mentors (and Incubator PMC members) to vote +1 on a release
:)

Martijn

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Martijn
Dashorst<ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Francis De
> Brabandere<fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  +1 votes: 3 (+1 non-binding)
>
> Not quite true unfortunately... You have 0 binding votes (according to
> Apache rules). The only votes that are binding are those of a PMC
> overseeing a top level project [1], which is the Incubator PMC for
> Empire-db. As none of your Mentors have voted (who are the only
> Incubator PMC members in your project), you have 0 (legally) binding
> votes.
>
> PPMC votes *DO* count, though: there's little precedent in people
> voting -1 after the PPMC members have voted +1 to add a committer, for
> example. Releases are trickier, because there's much more that can go
> wrong from a legal standpoint. So in release votes, you're likely to
> see more -1 votes from Incubator PMC members than with adding a
> Committer.
>
> Now how to proceed with this release:
>  - prod your Mentors to review the release (Henning, Thomas and myself),
>  - ask the Incubator PMC on general@ to review the release and approve
> it (send the same message from dev@ to general@)
>  - answer any questions that might arise from PMC members
>  - if you don't have 3 binding +1 votes after 72 hours, prod the
> general@ list again—remember it is vacation time
>  - prod your mentors again and ask *them* to ask for reviewers
> when you have at least 3 binding +1 votes, and no -1 votes, then
> you're ready to release the files.
>
> The reason why there's this distinction is because Apache is a
> corporation where committees represent the corporation and need to
> officially show awareness of decisions that are binding to the
> Foundation. The board installs these committees by resolution to
> provide oversight. The only folks that are able to provide oversight
> are those that have been appointed by the board. Since the PPMC is not
> installed by the board, but a artifact from the Incubator, PPMC votes
> are not legally binding. Adding a committer is a legally binding
> action. Adding a PMC member is a legally binding action. Changing the
> Chair of the PMC is a legally binding action, and finally releasing
> software is legally binding. This provides The ASF with the means to
> protect individuals against litigation: the corporation is
> accountable, not the individual developer. Without the binding votes,
> The ASF won't be able to protect us individuals (adequately) from
> litigation.
>
> Martijn
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
>



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Re: re [VOTE] Release Empire-db version 2.0.5-incubating

Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Francis De
Brabandere<fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  +1 votes: 3 (+1 non-binding)

Not quite true unfortunately... You have 0 binding votes (according to
Apache rules). The only votes that are binding are those of a PMC
overseeing a top level project [1], which is the Incubator PMC for
Empire-db. As none of your Mentors have voted (who are the only
Incubator PMC members in your project), you have 0 (legally) binding
votes.

PPMC votes *DO* count, though: there's little precedent in people
voting -1 after the PPMC members have voted +1 to add a committer, for
example. Releases are trickier, because there's much more that can go
wrong from a legal standpoint. So in release votes, you're likely to
see more -1 votes from Incubator PMC members than with adding a
Committer.

Now how to proceed with this release:
 - prod your Mentors to review the release (Henning, Thomas and myself),
 - ask the Incubator PMC on general@ to review the release and approve
it (send the same message from dev@ to general@)
 - answer any questions that might arise from PMC members
 - if you don't have 3 binding +1 votes after 72 hours, prod the
general@ list again—remember it is vacation time
 - prod your mentors again and ask *them* to ask for reviewers
when you have at least 3 binding +1 votes, and no -1 votes, then
you're ready to release the files.

The reason why there's this distinction is because Apache is a
corporation where committees represent the corporation and need to
officially show awareness of decisions that are binding to the
Foundation. The board installs these committees by resolution to
provide oversight. The only folks that are able to provide oversight
are those that have been appointed by the board. Since the PPMC is not
installed by the board, but a artifact from the Incubator, PPMC votes
are not legally binding. Adding a committer is a legally binding
action. Adding a PMC member is a legally binding action. Changing the
Chair of the PMC is a legally binding action, and finally releasing
software is legally binding. This provides The ASF with the means to
protect individuals against litigation: the corporation is
accountable, not the individual developer. Without the binding votes,
The ASF won't be able to protect us individuals (adequately) from
litigation.

Martijn

[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html

Re: re [VOTE] Release Empire-db version 2.0.5-incubating

Posted by Francis De Brabandere <fr...@gmail.com>.
Hello everybody,

the final result of our vote for releasing 2.0.5-incubating is:

 +1 votes: 3 (+1 non-binding)
 0 votes: 0
 -1 votes: 0

The minimum requirement of 3 votes with no -1 votes has been meet.
The release is hereby accepted.

Regards
Francis

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jörg Reiher<re...@esteam.de> wrote:
> +1
> ...sorry, was on holiday... just checked it out now, looks good!
>
>
>
> from: Francis De Brabandere [mailto:francisdb@gmail.com]
> sent: So 26.07.2009 17:15
> to: empire-db-dev@incubator.apache.org
> subject: [VOTE] Release Empire-db version 2.0.5-incubating
>
> Hi,
>
> Changelog:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/empire-db/tags/empire-db-parent-2.0.5-incubating/CHANGELOG.txt?revision=797936
>
> Staging repo:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/empire-db-staging-028/
>
> Distribution files are located here
> http://people.apache.org/~francisdb/empire-db/
>
> Vote open for 72 hours.
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -1
>
>
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> Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house.
>
>



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