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Posted to ftpserver-dev@incubator.apache.org by Atul Gohad <ag...@gmail.com> on 2007/10/13 13:57:19 UTC

Questions regarding legal aspects on using Apache FTP Server.

Hello All,

I had following questions on the legal issues on using Apache FTP Server.

Requesting all the contributors / committers and project stake holders to
guide me in obtaining answers / information on the following questions asap.

1. Can I get a proof of all the contributors to Apache FTP Server project
have entered the Apache Individual Contributor License Agreement ?
2. I see that the libraries used for slf4j-api and slf4j-log4j12 have
copyrights from QOS.ch and SLF4J.ORG <http://slf4j.org/>. Are these packages
also warranted / licensed under Apache 2.0? Is there any agreement between
Apache and these organizations.
3. The above packages show author name as Ceki Gülcü, wanted to know if he
is also a direct contributor / committer for Apache FTP Server project? I
saw the list of contributors for Apache FTP Server, and do not see his name,
but want to make sure on this aspect. Also, is there any CLA given by Ceki
Gülcü.

Thanks and Regards,
Atul Gohad.

Re: Questions regarding legal aspects on using Apache FTP Server.

Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Saturday 13 October 2007 21:57, Atul Gohad wrote:

> 1. Can I get a proof of all the contributors to Apache FTP Server project
> have entered the Apache Individual Contributor License Agreement ?

By extracting the commit logs you can obtain a list of all committers to the 
FtpServer codebase. They are;
   hammant   - Paul Hammant - original contributor, 18 commits from
               2003-March to 2005-Sept
   ngn       - Niklas Gustavsson - current active committer, 330 commits
               from  2006-Jan until present day.
   nicolaken - Nicola Ken Barozzi - 3 commits in 2003-April
   noel      - Noel Bergman - Applied one patch from user in 2005-10-21
   rana_b    - Rana Battacharyya - 195 commits from 2003-April to 2006-July
   sergey    - Sergey M Vladimirov - 13 commits in 2006-May

Then by looking into the private SVN repository there is a comprehensive list 
of which committers DO NOT have ICLA on file (from time prior to CLAs);

Result= None of the above are listed in this file, and hence all should have 
ICLAs files with the ASF.

> 2. I see that the libraries used for slf4j-api and slf4j-log4j12 have
> copyrights from QOS.ch and SLF4J.ORG <http://slf4j.org/>. Are these
> packages also warranted / licensed under Apache 2.0? Is there any agreement
> between Apache and these organizations.

See Niklas answer. 

> 3. The above packages show author name as Ceki Gülcü, wanted to know if he
> is also a direct contributor / committer for Apache FTP Server project? I
> saw the list of contributors for Apache FTP Server, and do not see his
> name, but want to make sure on this aspect. Also, is there any CLA given by
> Ceki Gülcü.

Ceki is an Apache Member and have made substantial contributions to the ASF, 
mostly in form of the Log4J project. SLF4J is not in ASF due to licensing. 
Ceki wanted to create an API that both GPL/LGPL and BSD/MIT/Apache licensed 
projects could use, and hence had to host that elsewhere.
Also, feel free to contact Ceki directly to ensure his intents.

In my personal opinion, FtpServer has very little legal issues. ASF takes the 
legal aspects of Open Source *very* seriously, and this project will soon 
graduate to a proper Apache project to reflect this.


Cheers
-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer

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Re: Questions regarding legal aspects on using Apache FTP Server.

Posted by Atul Gohad <ag...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Niklas and Bill for the timely response on legal questions. I was
able to infer to a good extent.

Thanks Again,
Atul.



On 10/14/07, Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>
> Atul Gohad wrote:
> > 1. Can I get a proof of all the contributors to Apache FTP Server
> project
> > have entered the Apache Individual Contributor License Agreement ?
>
> Probably not. Contributors come in two forms, commiters and those
> providing patches. For patches, we usually require the contributor to
> use JIRA and click the button to approve its inclusion under the ASL
> license.
>
> Commiters would have CLAs, but I believe that there might be commiters
> that commited code before CLAs was in place. I don't know if this list
> contains only commiters with CLAs or all:
> http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html
>
> You could probably ask the ASF secretary to be sure, but you would need
> a list of commiters first (you can get that from SVN).
>
> > 2. I see that the libraries used for slf4j-api and slf4j-log4j12 have
> > copyrights from QOS.ch and SLF4J.ORG <http://slf4j.org/>. Are these
> packages
> > also warranted / licensed under Apache 2.0? Is there any agreement
> between
> > Apache and these organizations.
>
> SLF4J is licensed under a MIT licens, which is appropriate for use with
> ASL licenensed code. As the code is MIT licensed, we do not need a
> agreement with Ceki or any others organization around SLF4J.
>
> > 3. The above packages show author name as Ceki Gülcü, wanted to know
> if he
> > is also a direct contributor / committer for Apache FTP Server project?
> I
> > saw the list of contributors for Apache FTP Server, and do not see
> his name,
> > but want to make sure on this aspect. Also, is there any CLA given by
> Ceki
> > Gülcü.
>
> No, Ceki is not a contributor for FtpServer as far as I know. He is
> however an ASF commiter, of log4j fame, and thus have a CLA. Not that it
> should matter for any use of FtpServer.
>
> /niklas
>
>

Re: Questions regarding legal aspects on using Apache FTP Server.

Posted by Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>.
Atul Gohad wrote:
 > 1. Can I get a proof of all the contributors to Apache FTP Server project
 > have entered the Apache Individual Contributor License Agreement ?

Probably not. Contributors come in two forms, commiters and those 
providing patches. For patches, we usually require the contributor to 
use JIRA and click the button to approve its inclusion under the ASL 
license.

Commiters would have CLAs, but I believe that there might be commiters 
that commited code before CLAs was in place. I don't know if this list 
contains only commiters with CLAs or all:
http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html

You could probably ask the ASF secretary to be sure, but you would need 
a list of commiters first (you can get that from SVN).

 > 2. I see that the libraries used for slf4j-api and slf4j-log4j12 have
 > copyrights from QOS.ch and SLF4J.ORG <http://slf4j.org/>. Are these 
packages
 > also warranted / licensed under Apache 2.0? Is there any agreement 
between
 > Apache and these organizations.

SLF4J is licensed under a MIT licens, which is appropriate for use with 
ASL licenensed code. As the code is MIT licensed, we do not need a 
agreement with Ceki or any others organization around SLF4J.

 > 3. The above packages show author name as Ceki Gülcü, wanted to know 
if he
 > is also a direct contributor / committer for Apache FTP Server project? I
 > saw the list of contributors for Apache FTP Server, and do not see 
his name,
 > but want to make sure on this aspect. Also, is there any CLA given by 
Ceki
 > Gülcü.

No, Ceki is not a contributor for FtpServer as far as I know. He is 
however an ASF commiter, of log4j fame, and thus have a CLA. Not that it 
should matter for any use of FtpServer.

/niklas