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Posted to dev@tuscany.apache.org by ant elder <an...@gmail.com> on 2011/07/12 22:11:37 UTC
Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
I'd like to rename the binding-ws-runtime-axis2 module to
binding-ws-runtime so that it matches the naming used by the other
extension which makes it more obvious for users. And also to move the
other binding-ws-runtime-* modules to contrib as they've fallen behind
and no one seem to be working on them.
I'll do this in a couple of days unless anyone has an good reason not to.
...ant
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't mind about the rename but I'm against moving the alternatives
> out of trunk just yet as I haven't completely given up on them even
> though I haven't touched them for a good while.
>
> Simon
>
Same here, please don't move the binding out of trunk as there are
users using it.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you mean the binding-ws-runtime-jaxws-ri module which uses the base
>> JDK6 classes then yes i agree that would be ideal but it doesn't work
>> very well yet, the axis2 based binding is the only one that works
>> completely presently, eg
>> http://apache.markmail.org/message/75njrpcrsizxkhdo
>>
>> ...ant
>>
>
> Other then the issue described on the message where the jaxws based
> binding implementation is not totally spec compliant, do we see other
> issues with the binding, more towards functionality for accessing soap
> webservices references ?
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
I don't mind about the rename but I'm against moving the alternatives
out of trunk just yet as I haven't completely given up on them even
though I haven't touched them for a good while.
Simon
--
Apache Tuscany committer: tuscany.apache.org
Co-author of a book about Tuscany and SCA: tuscanyinaction.com
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you mean the binding-ws-runtime-jaxws-ri module which uses the base
> JDK6 classes then yes i agree that would be ideal but it doesn't work
> very well yet, the axis2 based binding is the only one that works
> completely presently, eg
> http://apache.markmail.org/message/75njrpcrsizxkhdo
>
> ...ant
>
Other then the issue described on the message where the jaxws based
binding implementation is not totally spec compliant, do we see other
issues with the binding, more towards functionality for accessing soap
webservices references ?
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
If you mean the binding-ws-runtime-jaxws-ri module which uses the base
JDK6 classes then yes i agree that would be ideal but it doesn't work
very well yet, the axis2 based binding is the only one that works
completely presently, eg
http://apache.markmail.org/message/75njrpcrsizxkhdo
...ant
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't we prefer to use a JAX-WS based implementation as the default
> binding-ws-runtime?
> Thanks,
> Raymond
> ________________________________________________________________
> Raymond Feng
> rfeng@apache.org
> Apache Tuscany PMC member and committer: tuscany.apache.org
> Co-author of Tuscany SCA In Action book: www.tuscanyinaction.com
> Personal Web Site: www.enjoyjava.com
> ________________________________________________________________
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:11 PM, ant elder wrote:
>
> I'd like to rename the binding-ws-runtime-axis2 module to
> binding-ws-runtime so that it matches the naming used by the other
> extension which makes it more obvious for users. And also to move the
> other binding-ws-runtime-* modules to contrib as they've fallen behind
> and no one seem to be working on them.
>
> I'll do this in a couple of days unless anyone has an good reason not to.
>
> ...ant
>
>
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 13/07/2011 22:48, ant elder wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Mike Edwards
> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/07/2011 21:44, Raymond Feng wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't we prefer to use a JAX-WS based implementation as the default
>>> binding-ws-runtime?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Raymond
>>> /________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> No problem with the renaming - but as for preferring the JAX-WS impl, I
>> don't agree with that - the Axis binding implementation is the "complete"
>> one at the moment - and is very much the route for the various policy
>> options including security and reliable messaging.
>>
>> Why would a JAX-WS implementation be a better way to go?
>>
>
> The main advantage of it is that its included in Java SE so there are
> no other external dependencies which makes it very easy to use.
>
> But I agree the Axis2 one is much more complete and seems a better
> choice. There are quite a lot of issues with the JAXWS RI based one,
> i'd be surprised if anyone is using it for more than simple helloworld
> demo type things.
>
> ...ant
>
Ant,
I think you agreeing with me here.
The Java SE JAXWS implementation is a noddy one - it is a bare bones implementation (& I strongly
urged Sun originally not to include it in the JDK for just this reason).
We can't use it very seriously unless we start writing our own handlers for the various SOAP headers
that are implied when doing anything beyond the basics - e.g. any form of Security.
Yours, Mike.
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Mike Edwards
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/07/2011 21:44, Raymond Feng wrote:
>>
>> Don't we prefer to use a JAX-WS based implementation as the default
>> binding-ws-runtime?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Raymond
>> /________________________________________________________________
>
> Folks,
>
> No problem with the renaming - but as for preferring the JAX-WS impl, I
> don't agree with that - the Axis binding implementation is the "complete"
> one at the moment - and is very much the route for the various policy
> options including security and reliable messaging.
>
> Why would a JAX-WS implementation be a better way to go?
>
The main advantage of it is that its included in Java SE so there are
no other external dependencies which makes it very easy to use.
But I agree the Axis2 one is much more complete and seems a better
choice. There are quite a lot of issues with the JAXWS RI based one,
i'd be surprised if anyone is using it for more than simple helloworld
demo type things.
...ant
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 12/07/2011 21:44, Raymond Feng wrote:
> Don't we prefer to use a JAX-WS based implementation as the default binding-ws-runtime?
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
> /________________________________________________________________
Folks,
No problem with the renaming - but as for preferring the JAX-WS impl, I don't agree with that - the
Axis binding implementation is the "complete" one at the moment - and is very much the route for the
various policy options including security and reliable messaging.
Why would a JAX-WS implementation be a better way to go?
Yours, Mike.
Re: Rename binding-ws-runtime-axis2 to binding-ws-runtime
Posted by Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>.
Don't we prefer to use a JAX-WS based implementation as the default binding-ws-runtime?
Thanks,
Raymond
________________________________________________________________
Raymond Feng
rfeng@apache.org
Apache Tuscany PMC member and committer: tuscany.apache.org
Co-author of Tuscany SCA In Action book: www.tuscanyinaction.com
Personal Web Site: www.enjoyjava.com
________________________________________________________________
On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:11 PM, ant elder wrote:
> I'd like to rename the binding-ws-runtime-axis2 module to
> binding-ws-runtime so that it matches the naming used by the other
> extension which makes it more obvious for users. And also to move the
> other binding-ws-runtime-* modules to contrib as they've fallen behind
> and no one seem to be working on them.
>
> I'll do this in a couple of days unless anyone has an good reason not to.
>
> ...ant