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Posted to kerby@directory.apache.org by "Li, Jiajia" <ji...@intel.com> on 2016/03/11 02:18:22 UTC
[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Hi guys,
Thanks to all who voted! The vote has passed with the following tally:
+1 Binding (8 total)
Emmanuel
Stefan
Colm
Kai
Lin
Yaning
Shawn
Jiajia Li
+1 Non-binding (2 total)
Yan
Wei
No 0 or -1 votes.
Best regards,
Jiajia
RE: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Posted by "Zheng, Kai" <ka...@intel.com>.
Yeah, agree. Thanks Jiajia for the dedication on the project for the past year and also this year, keeping pushing the release.
Regards,
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: Emmanuel Lécharny [mailto:elecharny@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 3:54 PM
To: kerby@directory.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Le 11/03/16 07:51, Li, Jiajia a écrit :
> Thanks for Emmanuel's clarification, it's my fault, and thanks again.
There is *NO* fault !
Thanks A LOT for having driven the release and the follow up to all the kerby team !
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 11/03/16 07:51, Li, Jiajia a écrit :
> Thanks for Emmanuel's clarification, it's my fault, and thanks again.
There is *NO* fault !
Thanks A LOT for having driven the release and the follow up to all the
kerby team !
RE: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Posted by "Li, Jiajia" <ji...@intel.com>.
Thanks for Emmanuel's clarification, it's my fault, and thanks again.
Regards,
Jiajia
-----Original Message-----
From: Emmanuel Lécharny [mailto:elecharny@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:43 PM
To: kerby@directory.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Le 11/03/16 02:18, Li, Jiajia a écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> Thanks to all who voted! The vote has passed with the following tally:
>
> +1 Binding (8 total)
> Emmanuel
> Stefan
> Colm
> Kai
> Lin
> Yaning
> Shawn
> Jiajia Li
For clarity, the only binding +1 are Stefan, Colm, Kai, Shawn and me, which is enough to validate the release :-)
(only PMC's members are binding votes, which does not make the other vote less important !)
Congrats and hurray for the release !
RE: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Posted by "Zheng, Kai" <ka...@intel.com>.
Thanks for the helpful elaborating. Got it now.
Regards,
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: Emmanuel Lécharny [mailto:elecharny@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 3:52 PM
To: kerby@directory.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Le 11/03/16 07:52, Zheng, Kai a écrit :
> Thanks for the clarifying. Looks like not just me not knowing this.
> So a release needs a binding vote only from PMCs, is this specifically for Directory or all ASF projects?
This is for all the ASF projects : " the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding votes" (http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html)
> Are there any other similar cases in addition to releases?
Not so much. Usually, PMC members are voting for new committers, new PMC member, and the chairman. They are also the only ones who can veto a commit.
Now, take it with a bit of distance : non binding votes are *really* critical. That one or more non-binding committers - or even users - decide to cast a -1 is generally a very strong indication that something is going west. You should not discard them as if they count for nothing.
The reason we count PMC members vote as binding is that they represent the project, and if less than 3 PMC members vote means the project is in trouble. That also means we should not be too picky about who should become a PMC member : a constant dedication to the project is clearly a good sign that the committer should be promoted to the committer status.
In many ways, it makes sense : they feel for the project, they dedicate some time and energy on it, somehow they *are* the project...
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 11/03/16 07:52, Zheng, Kai a écrit :
> Thanks for the clarifying. Looks like not just me not knowing this.
> So a release needs a binding vote only from PMCs, is this specifically for Directory or all ASF projects?
This is for all the ASF projects : " the basic rule is that only PMC
members have binding votes" (http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html)
> Are there any other similar cases in addition to releases?
Not so much. Usually, PMC members are voting for new committers, new PMC
member, and the chairman. They are also the only ones who can veto a commit.
Now, take it with a bit of distance : non binding votes are *really*
critical. That one or more non-binding committers - or even users -
decide to cast a -1 is generally a very strong indication that something
is going west. You should not discard them as if they count for nothing.
The reason we count PMC members vote as binding is that they represent
the project, and if less than 3 PMC members vote means the project is in
trouble. That also means we should not be too picky about who should
become a PMC member : a constant dedication to the project is clearly a
good sign that the committer should be promoted to the committer status.
In many ways, it makes sense : they feel for the project, they dedicate
some time and energy on it, somehow they *are* the project...
RE: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Posted by "Zheng, Kai" <ka...@intel.com>.
Thanks for the clarifying. Looks like not just me not knowing this.
So a release needs a binding vote only from PMCs, is this specifically for Directory or all ASF projects? Are there any other similar cases in addition to releases? Good to know these answers for my totally embracing ASF. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: Emmanuel Lécharny [mailto:elecharny@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:43 PM
To: kerby@directory.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Le 11/03/16 02:18, Li, Jiajia a écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> Thanks to all who voted! The vote has passed with the following tally:
>
> +1 Binding (8 total)
> Emmanuel
> Stefan
> Colm
> Kai
> Lin
> Yaning
> Shawn
> Jiajia Li
For clarity, the only binding +1 are Stefan, Colm, Kai, Shawn and me, which is enough to validate the release :-)
(only PMC's members are binding votes, which does not make the other vote less important !)
Congrats and hurray for the release !
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0-RC2
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 11/03/16 02:18, Li, Jiajia a écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> Thanks to all who voted! The vote has passed with the following tally:
>
> +1 Binding (8 total)
> Emmanuel
> Stefan
> Colm
> Kai
> Lin
> Yaning
> Shawn
> Jiajia Li
For clarity, the only binding +1 are Stefan, Colm, Kai, Shawn and me,
which is enough to validate the release :-)
(only PMC's members are binding votes, which does not make the other
vote less important !)
Congrats and hurray for the release !