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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Marcus Sundman <su...@iki.fi> on 2004/03/01 13:15:52 UTC

Re: news symlinks

> > I think the best solution would be to have one page with news <N days
> > old, and
> > then have a completely separate news archive where news are
> > categorized by
> > month/year/whatever. The former could have news from both Jakarta and
> > elsewhere on the same page, preventing people from having to check two
> > URLs
> > when reading news. The latter could have different categories for
> > Jakarta
> > news and other news.
>
> that's probably true but it would require active maintenance to keep it
> up to date. so, probably some sort of consensus would be needed amongst
> those who'll be doing this extra work before going ahead.

Huh? Surely the news items are entries in a database of some sort, or are you 
implying that someone actually modifies html files directly?! Having two 
lists should only be a matter of having two different db queries, e.g.
All news from year 2003:
SELECT title, time, body FROM news WHERE time>='2003-01-01 00:00:00' AND 
time<'2004-01-01 00:00:00'
All news from the last month:
SELECT title, time, body FROM news WHERE time='NOW() - INTERVAL 1 MONTH

> maybe it'd be cool to have a complete latest-first index of all news
> stories in the news index page. that way, not only would it be a useful
> resource but also it'd be a fixed page for people to book mark.

Yes.
(Well, it would be "cool" in the sense that it is "cool" that you can edit 
text in a text editor.)


- Marcus Sundman


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Re: news symlinks

Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
Hi,

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:21:20 +0000
robert burrell donkin wrote:

> cool in the sense of 
> a-useful-resource-that-jakartaens-might-feel-motivated-to-maintain. 
> anyone else have any opinions on this?

Now, I am trying to gather news from various Apache world
and put them into http://www.terra-intl.com/tetsuya/ - Experimental
RSS 2.0 Index: http://www.terra-intl.com/tetsuya/index.xml
-- Now joining in planetapache -- This URL might be changed, maybe

Perhaps this style would be able to be easily maintained.
I admit it that once I suffered from
"putting-all-materials-into-apache.org-domain" disease.
Now I've recovered from such a severe illness, completely.

Diversity is the key to meet with success. I've learned this
from controversial but meaningful discussion @ community.
Sincerely,


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Re: news symlinks

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On 1 Mar 2004, at 12:15, Marcus Sundman wrote:

<snip>

>> maybe it'd be cool to have a complete latest-first index of all news
>> stories in the news index page. that way, not only would it be a 
>> useful
>> resource but also it'd be a fixed page for people to book mark.
>
> Yes.
> (Well, it would be "cool" in the sense that it is "cool" that you can 
> edit
> text in a text editor.)

i've added a complete index of all the news headlines to the news 
status page (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/index.html) together 
with some other organizational improvements. i think that it's 
interesting to see all the headlines together in one place. (and yes, i 
think that it's cool but then again, i'm easily amused :)

those folks who've asked for a news page to bookmark should bookmark 
this one.

- robert


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Re: news symlinks

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On 1 Mar 2004, at 12:15, Marcus Sundman wrote:

>>> I think the best solution would be to have one page with news <N days
>>> old, and
>>> then have a completely separate news archive where news are
>>> categorized by
>>> month/year/whatever. The former could have news from both Jakarta and
>>> elsewhere on the same page, preventing people from having to check 
>>> two
>>> URLs
>>> when reading news. The latter could have different categories for
>>> Jakarta
>>> news and other news.
>>
>> that's probably true but it would require active maintenance to keep 
>> it
>> up to date. so, probably some sort of consensus would be needed 
>> amongst
>> those who'll be doing this extra work before going ahead.
>
> Huh? Surely the news items are entries in a database of some sort, or 
> are you
> implying that someone actually modifies html files directly?!

the web site is almost all static. jakarta (and most of the apache 
stuff) is generated using anakia from xml source by volunteers on their 
own machines and then committed into CVS.

a major reason for this is that (until recently) the apache website ran 
on a very low specification machine (infrastructure's httpd gurus could 
even make a pig fly ;). we now have a better web server but running a 
lot of dynamic content on it would probably be problematic. IIRC there 
was talk (in infrastructure) about being able to loan some better 
machines from sponsors on which jakarta (and the other ASF projects) 
could run dynamic content but i'm no longer in the infrastructure loop 
so now would be good time for better informed people to jump in...

>> maybe it'd be cool to have a complete latest-first index of all news
>> stories in the news index page. that way, not only would it be a 
>> useful
>> resource but also it'd be a fixed page for people to book mark.
>
> Yes.
> (Well, it would be "cool" in the sense that it is "cool" that you can 
> edit
> text in a text editor.)

cool in the sense of 
a-useful-resource-that-jakartaens-might-feel-motivated-to-maintain. 
anyone else have any opinions on this?

- robert


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Help me using url rewriting

Posted by RK <ra...@imisoft.com>.
Hi,
Iam writing an apache module which will build a URL based on the request.
the url can be an internal/external. then the module redirects user to new
url.
Here instead of redirecting the user to new url, i want to fetch the content
and display it to user.
Pl help me doing this using URL Rewrittter here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Sundman [mailto:sundman@iki.fi]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:46 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: news symlinks


> > I think the best solution would be to have one page with news <N days
> > old, and
> > then have a completely separate news archive where news are
> > categorized by
> > month/year/whatever. The former could have news from both Jakarta and
> > elsewhere on the same page, preventing people from having to check two
> > URLs
> > when reading news. The latter could have different categories for
> > Jakarta
> > news and other news.
>
> that's probably true but it would require active maintenance to keep it
> up to date. so, probably some sort of consensus would be needed amongst
> those who'll be doing this extra work before going ahead.

Huh? Surely the news items are entries in a database of some sort, or are
you
implying that someone actually modifies html files directly?! Having two
lists should only be a matter of having two different db queries, e.g.
All news from year 2003:
SELECT title, time, body FROM news WHERE time>='2003-01-01 00:00:00' AND
time<'2004-01-01 00:00:00'
All news from the last month:
SELECT title, time, body FROM news WHERE time='NOW() - INTERVAL 1 MONTH

> maybe it'd be cool to have a complete latest-first index of all news
> stories in the news index page. that way, not only would it be a useful
> resource but also it'd be a fixed page for people to book mark.

Yes.
(Well, it would be "cool" in the sense that it is "cool" that you can edit
text in a text editor.)


- Marcus Sundman


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