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Posted to dev@steve.apache.org by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> on 2013/06/12 00:45:14 UTC
Sending email
Hey all,
I was thinking that we could have Apache Steve be configured for
sending email in one of two ways:
1) via piping to a subprocess, such as sendmail or similarly-flavored MTA
2) connecting/sending to an SMTP port
Both are easy (subprocess and smtplib modules). Just a bit of config.
Any thoughts?
Cheers,
-g
Re: Sending email
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
We know that, at least for us, #1 works. So I'd say we make
sure #1 works and then add #2 as a run-time config option
afterwards.
Ideally, we get the Python variant is the same shape as
the Perl one and can then add the enhancements and fixes
we want... My 2c
On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I was thinking that we could have Apache Steve be configured for
> sending email in one of two ways:
>
> 1) via piping to a subprocess, such as sendmail or similarly-flavored MTA
>
> 2) connecting/sending to an SMTP port
>
> Both are easy (subprocess and smtplib modules). Just a bit of config.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
Re: Sending email
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:09 AM, <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>> My ISP won't let me connect to port 25 anywhere on the Internet. From
>> my home, I cannot use plain old SMTP to send email
>
> Does your ISP provide its own STMP for its subscribers?
Never investigated it. I just ssh'd to people.a.o to do my port 25 testing :-)
Usually, there is some kind of authentication step, and then you can
connect to their servers. That prevents zombies from using the port.
I don't propose that level of outbound email support. Just bare port
25, or via cmdline.
Cheers,
-g
Re: Sending email
Posted by ke...@apache.org.
> My ISP won't let me connect to port 25 anywhere on the Internet. From
> my home, I cannot use plain old SMTP to send email
Does your ISP provide its own STMP for its subscribers?
--k
Re: Sending email
Posted by Alan Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
+1 on 1 and 2
:)
On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My ISP won't let me connect to port 25 anywhere on the Internet. From
> my home, I cannot use plain old SMTP to send email. (obviously, they
> are trying to kill off zombie's that want to send spam via mail
> relays)
>
> Now that said, what is the likelihood that a local MTA can deliver
> email? Won't it also have to use port 25?
>
> Well... not really. I've just been messing with msmtp lately, and it
> can connect to Gmail for delivery (with appropriate credentials). So
> with msmtp, I *can* actually get mail out for dev/test/production
> purposes, via the cmdline usage.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Alan Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>> Off hand 2 seems to suffice. If we had 2 why would we need 1?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I was thinking that we could have Apache Steve be configured for
>>> sending email in one of two ways:
>>>
>>> 1) via piping to a subprocess, such as sendmail or similarly-flavored MTA
>>>
>>> 2) connecting/sending to an SMTP port
>>>
>>> Both are easy (subprocess and smtplib modules). Just a bit of config.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -g
>>
Re: Sending email
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
My ISP won't let me connect to port 25 anywhere on the Internet. From
my home, I cannot use plain old SMTP to send email. (obviously, they
are trying to kill off zombie's that want to send spam via mail
relays)
Now that said, what is the likelihood that a local MTA can deliver
email? Won't it also have to use port 25?
Well... not really. I've just been messing with msmtp lately, and it
can connect to Gmail for delivery (with appropriate credentials). So
with msmtp, I *can* actually get mail out for dev/test/production
purposes, via the cmdline usage.
Cheers,
-g
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Alan Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
> Off hand 2 seems to suffice. If we had 2 why would we need 1?
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I was thinking that we could have Apache Steve be configured for
>> sending email in one of two ways:
>>
>> 1) via piping to a subprocess, such as sendmail or similarly-flavored MTA
>>
>> 2) connecting/sending to an SMTP port
>>
>> Both are easy (subprocess and smtplib modules). Just a bit of config.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -g
>
Re: Sending email
Posted by Alan Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
Off hand 2 seems to suffice. If we had 2 why would we need 1?
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I was thinking that we could have Apache Steve be configured for
> sending email in one of two ways:
>
> 1) via piping to a subprocess, such as sendmail or similarly-flavored MTA
>
> 2) connecting/sending to an SMTP port
>
> Both are easy (subprocess and smtplib modules). Just a bit of config.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
> -g
Re: Sending email
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Both sound like great options, Greg. +1
Cheers,
Chris
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From: Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>
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Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:45 PM
To: "dev@steve.apache.org" <de...@steve.apache.org>
Subject: Sending email
>Hey all,
>
>I was thinking that we could have Apache Steve be configured for
>sending email in one of two ways:
>
>1) via piping to a subprocess, such as sendmail or similarly-flavored MTA
>
>2) connecting/sending to an SMTP port
>
>Both are easy (subprocess and smtplib modules). Just a bit of config.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Cheers,
>-g