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Running PHP?

I tried Quercus, but it gave me some pretty bad results when it failed to properly interpret a lot of the PHP code. I am expecting that the best way to go is with a real PHP setup, and that would require setting up a second server, such as Lighttpd ... 



Michel

RE: Running PHP?

Posted by "Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>.
> From: michel [mailto:compukat@videotron.ca]
> Subject: Re: Running PHP?
> 
> sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ...

So your e-mail client (X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931) is broken.  Pid's messages appear properly on Outlook, Thunderbird, and iPhone for me, and are saved properly in all the archives that I look at.

 - Chuck


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Re: [OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?)

Posted by michel <co...@videotron.ca>.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Markus Schönhaber" <to...@list-post.mks-mail.de>
To: <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:41 PM
Subject: [OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?)


> 03.08.2010 18:14, michel:
>
>> From: "Markus Schönhaber" <to...@list-post.mks-mail.de>
>
>>> 03.08.2010 13:20, michel:
>>>
>>>> sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ...
>>>
>>> No.
>>> It's not Pid's fault if your "mail program" doesn't understand PGP/MIME.
>>
>> OK, I checked online and found
>>
>> Handling of PGP/MIME signed messages
>> Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME,[9] and will not display 
>> the
>> body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two 
>> attachments
>> (one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to
>> open an attachment to see the e-mail. ... This bug has still not been
>> rectified.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Express#Handling_of_PGP.2FMIME_signed_messages
>>
>> On one hand it's an MS bug, but then so many people (most?) use it, it
>> rather leaves a large number of us not being able to read Pid's posting.
>
> 1. I don't see why anyone should not use a perfectly reasonable and
> standards compliant way of signing his mails just to please buggy mail
> clients.
> If you choose to use one of those, then live with it's deficiencies but
> don't blame Pid because he uses a 14-year old standard which the vendor
> of your "mail client" has still failed to implement.
>
> 2. A quick scan through the 37596 posts to this list in my current
> archive (going back till mid-March 2008) shows 957 of them which seem to
> be sent with OE. That's roughly 2.5%. At least on this mailing list,
> it's not "most" (not even "many people") that use OE.
> I doubt that it's much different on other lists with IT subjects.
>
> -- 
> Regards
>  mks


Markus, quite an eye-opener and I will just have to try switching email 
system!



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[OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?)

Posted by Markus Schönhaber <to...@list-post.mks-mail.de>.
03.08.2010 18:14, michel:

> From: "Markus Schönhaber" <to...@list-post.mks-mail.de>

>> 03.08.2010 13:20, michel:
>>
>>> sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ...
>>
>> No.
>> It's not Pid's fault if your "mail program" doesn't understand PGP/MIME.
> 
> OK, I checked online and found
> 
> Handling of PGP/MIME signed messages
> Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME,[9] and will not display the 
> body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two attachments 
> (one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to 
> open an attachment to see the e-mail. ... This bug has still not been 
> rectified.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Express#Handling_of_PGP.2FMIME_signed_messages
> 
> On one hand it's an MS bug, but then so many people (most?) use it, it 
> rather leaves a large number of us not being able to read Pid's posting.

1. I don't see why anyone should not use a perfectly reasonable and
standards compliant way of signing his mails just to please buggy mail
clients.
If you choose to use one of those, then live with it's deficiencies but
don't blame Pid because he uses a 14-year old standard which the vendor
of your "mail client" has still failed to implement.

2. A quick scan through the 37596 posts to this list in my current
archive (going back till mid-March 2008) shows 957 of them which seem to
be sent with OE. That's roughly 2.5%. At least on this mailing list,
it's not "most" (not even "many people") that use OE.
I doubt that it's much different on other lists with IT subjects.

-- 
Regards
  mks

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Re: Running PHP?

Posted by michel <co...@videotron.ca>.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Markus Schönhaber" <to...@list-post.mks-mail.de>
To: <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Running PHP?


> 03.08.2010 13:20, michel:
>
>> sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ...
>
> No.
> It's not Pid's fault if your "mail program" doesn't understand PGP/MIME.
>
> -- 
> Regards
>  mks

OK, I checked online and found

Handling of PGP/MIME signed messages
Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME,[9] and will not display the 
body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two attachments 
(one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to 
open an attachment to see the e-mail. ... This bug has still not been 
rectified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Express#Handling_of_PGP.2FMIME_signed_messages



On one hand it's an MS bug, but then so many people (most?) use it, it 
rather leaves a large number of us not being able to read Pid's posting.



Thanks,



Michel








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Re: Running PHP?

Posted by Markus Schönhaber <to...@list-post.mks-mail.de>.
03.08.2010 13:20, michel:

> sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ... 

No.
It's not Pid's fault if your "mail program" doesn't understand PGP/MIME.

-- 
Regards
  mks

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Re: Running PHP?

Posted by michel <co...@videotron.ca>.
sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ... 

Michel

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From: "Pid" <pi...@pidster.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Running PHP?



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Re: Running PHP?

Posted by Pid <pi...@pidster.com>.
On 02/08/2010 17:41, David Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Maybe I should not ask, but why post with the text as an attachment?
>>
>> You're using Outlook Express, maybe the problem is at your end.
> 
> Your PGP signature is an attachment.

Yep.  I think he was seeing the main message as an attachment too.


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> --------------enig2B65BBFD3FC6C4840C488F3D
> Content-Disposition: attachment;
> 	filename=signature.asc
> Content-Type: application/pgp-signature;
> 	name=signature.asc
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin)
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
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Re: Running PHP?

Posted by David Fisher <df...@jmlafferty.com>.
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Maybe I should not ask, but why post with the text as an attachment?
> 
> You're using Outlook Express, maybe the problem is at your end.

Your PGP signature is an attachment.

--------------enig2B65BBFD3FC6C4840C488F3D
Content-Disposition: attachment;
	filename=signature.asc
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature;
	name=signature.asc

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin)

Regards,
Dave

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Re: Running PHP?

Posted by Pid <pi...@pidster.com>.
On 02/08/2010 15:57, michel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe I should not ask, but why post with the text as an attachment?

You're using Outlook Express, maybe the problem is at your end.


p


> Michel
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pid" <pi...@pidster.com>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Running PHP?
> 
> 



Re: Running PHP?

Posted by michel <co...@videotron.ca>.
Hi,

Maybe I should not ask, but why post with the text as an attachment?



Michel


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Running PHP?



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Re: Running PHP?

Posted by Pid <pi...@pidster.com>.
On 02/08/2010 15:38, michel wrote:
> I tried Quercus, but it gave me some pretty bad results when it failed to properly interpret a lot of the PHP code. I am expecting that the best way to go is with a real PHP setup, and that would require setting up a second server, such as Lighttpd ... 

Yes.  Or Apache HTTPD etc.


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