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Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)


Hello folks,


With the help of the community (Specially thinks to Yue Zhao), Podling Website Check page[1] said the status of our website is healthy.
However, three items below still stay in Errata of the incubator status page[2]. The 2nd to 3rd items have joined our website[3][4], 
and my best guess is  Errata can not detect them. Could anyone give us some hints?
Another question here is those items are required or not for graduation?
-----
1 Project does not have 'commits' mailing list
2 Has not provided an issue tracker link
3 Has not provided a wiki link
-----
Hope to see your kind advice, thanks in advance.


Cheers,
Trista


[1] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/shardingsphere
[2] https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/shardingsphere.html
[3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-shardingsphere/issues
[4]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHARDINGSPHERE




 Juan Pan (Trista)
                         
Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
E-mail: panjuan@apache.org




On 02/24/2020 18:47,Juan Pan<pa...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi folks,


- Update incubator status site[3]. [DOING]


To make our website line with Apache way, we need to add some links, copyright, trademark and disclaimer to our website.
This sub-task is underway, you can learn more referring to [1].


- [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r633f0ab3ee2440cb856b167d9deef5972473c95445ab4138b00bc100%40%3Cdev.shardingsphere.apache.org%3E






Juan Pan (Trista)

Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
E-mail: panjuan@apache.org




On 02/24/2020 13:21,zhangliang@apache.org<zh...@apache.org> wrote:
Tasks status update:

- Remove author information in java code.  [DONE]

- Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name
`io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. [DONE]

- Major contributors sign ICLA. [DONE]

- Discuss PMC list. [DONE]

- Podling name search[2]. [DONE]

- Update incubator status site[3]. [DOING]

- Discuss how to handle powered by page [4]. [DOING]

[1] https://github.com/OpenSharding

[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-178

[3] https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/shardingsphere.html

[4] https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/


------------------

Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo


zhangliang@apache.org <zh...@apache.org> 于2020年2月20日周四 下午4:40写道:

Hi Justin,

I dislike pages like this [4] and it may not in line with ASF policy.
[5] It also generated confusion with [6]

The powered by page means companies using ShardingSphere, not
ShardingSphere powered by the companies.
How about change the page url form `poweredby` to `users`?



------------------

Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo


zhangliang@apache.org <zh...@apache.org> 于2020年2月20日周四 下午4:08写道:

I am doing the podling name search, the JIRA ticket[1].

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-178

------------------

Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo


Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> 于2020年2月20日周四 下午2:05写道:

Hi Justin,


Very appreciated your time to give us some valuable feedback and
suggestions.
We will take time to visit those links and pay attention to the issues
you mentioned.:-)


Best wishes,
Trista


Juan Pan (Trista)

Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
E-mail: panjuan@apache.org




On 02/20/2020 12:21,Justin Mclean<jm...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,


Now I've only take a quick look so it may be that  things mentioned
below have already been discussed or work is currently been done of them.

Has the podling done a podling name search yet? [1] You cannot graduate
until that is done.

The incubator status page is showing a few things that still need to be
done [2] and looking at your website there are are number of issues that
need to be addressed [3] in particularly branding. How clear is it that
this is an ASF project?

I dislike pages like this [4] and it may not in line with ASF policy.
[5] It also generated confusion with [6]

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
2. https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/shardingsphere.html
3. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
4. https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/
5. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking
6. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#poweredby



Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.
Hi,

> 1 Project does not have 'commits' mailing list

You have notifications@ so that fine.

> 2 Has not provided an issue tracker link

You have this well documented on your website, so not a big issue, but it’s also easy to fix.

> 3 Has not provided a wiki link

You have a wiki [1] and can also provide that.

I still have concerns about [1] and what is happening with [2]? I also think you may have a little work to do on the branding side of things e.g. this page [3] is concerning for a number of reasons. But none of those would IMO hold up graduation as long as they are being looked into, but best to ask your mentors.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/
2. http://shardingsphere.io
3. https://jitpack.io/p/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by "zhangliang@apache.org" <zh...@apache.org>.
This domain [1] is created by 2019-06-28T10:15:48Z, which is after entering
the incubator.
The website has no relationship with Apache ShardingSphere. Do we need to
do anything about it?

[1] http://shardingsphere.io

------------------

Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo


Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午12:18写道:

> Hi,
>
> IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is an
> Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would be
> nice to see more than that.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
>

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Strange 3rd party service. We may could send a mail to ask what the service
vendor could do to fix this?
But at least, this doesn't look like a block to me.

I think basically, we could start the official vote on the dev for
graduation?
PPMC and dev team, WDYT?

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


zhangliang@apache.org <zh...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午2:39写道:

> I check the website https://jitpack.io, it looks like they[1] crawling the
> releases from GitHub directly, and then shade the groupId and artifactId by
> their own rule.
> The repo `dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc` is the previous repo before
> entering incubator, we just transferred the repo to
> `apache/incubator-shardingsphere` now.
> But jitpack may has a bug, they can not recognize the transferred repo.
>
> I check the release build log[1], the build is come from apache repo. After
> building finish totally, shade the package name. Please see details below:
>
> ```
>
> [INFO] sharding-ui-distribution ........................... SUCCESS [
> 0.690 s]
> [INFO] sharding-integration-test .......................... SUCCESS [
> 0.145 s]
> [INFO] sharding-jdbc-test ................................. SUCCESS [
> 0.527 s]
> [INFO]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
> [INFO]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [INFO] Total time:  05:06 min
> [INFO] Finished at: 2019-12-27T07:30:17Z
> [INFO]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8
> -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: ignoring option MaxPermSize=256m;
> support was removed in 8.0
> Found module: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
> ...
>
> Build tool exit code: 0
> Looking for artifacts...
> Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8
> -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
> Looking for pom.xml in build directory and ~/.m2
> Found artifact: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
> 2019-12-27T07:30:34.790832592Z
> Exit code: 0
>
> Build artifacts:
> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-proxy-distribution:4.0.0
>
> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:shardingsphere-sql-parser-sqlserver:4.0.0
>
> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-orchestration-reg-nacos:4.0.0
> ...
>
> ```
>
> Could we just leave them there, any advice?
>
> [1] https://jitpack.io/p/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc
> [2]
> https://jitpack.io/com/github/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc/4.0.0/build.log
> ------------------
>
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>
>
> Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午1:29写道:
>
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your prompt feedback, which always provides us valuable
> > instructions.
> > It seems like items currently remaining Errata is not a big issue, and
> the
> > more critical case is the brand thing. Besides, to make the website more
> > 'Apache'  is another improvement. Make sense, and we will look into two
> of
> > them.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Trista
> >
> >
> >  Juan Pan (Trista)
> >
> > Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> > E-mail: panjuan@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 03/4/2020 12:18,Justin Mclean<jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is
> an
> > Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would
> be
> > nice to see more than that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
>

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by "zhangliang@apache.org" <zh...@apache.org>.
> I think basically, we could start the official vote on the dev for
> graduation?
> PPMC and dev team, WDYT?

+1, cool.
If no other questions, I will sent official vote mail tomorrow.

------------------

Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo


zhangliang@apache.org <zh...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:22写道:

> Hi,
> The original powered by page[1] has changed to users page[2].
>
> [1] https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/
> [2] https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/users/
> <https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/>
>
> ------------------
>
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>
>
> zhangliang@apache.org <zh...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午2:38写道:
>
>> I check the website https://jitpack.io, it looks like they[1] crawling
>> the releases from GitHub directly, and then shade the groupId and
>> artifactId by their own rule.
>> The repo `dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc` is the previous repo before
>> entering incubator, we just transferred the repo to
>> `apache/incubator-shardingsphere` now.
>> But jitpack may has a bug, they can not recognize the transferred repo.
>>
>> I check the release build log[1], the build is come from apache repo.
>> After building finish totally, shade the package name. Please see details
>> below:
>>
>> ```
>>
>> [INFO] sharding-ui-distribution ........................... SUCCESS [  0.690 s]
>> [INFO] sharding-integration-test .......................... SUCCESS [  0.145 s]
>> [INFO] sharding-jdbc-test ................................. SUCCESS [  0.527 s]
>> [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> [INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
>> [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> [INFO] Total time:  05:06 min
>> [INFO] Finished at: 2019-12-27T07:30:17Z
>> [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
>> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: ignoring option MaxPermSize=256m; support was removed in 8.0
>> Found module: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
>> ...
>>
>> Build tool exit code: 0
>> Looking for artifacts...
>> Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
>> Looking for pom.xml in build directory and ~/.m2
>> Found artifact: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
>> 2019-12-27T07:30:34.790832592Z
>> Exit code: 0
>>
>> Build artifacts:
>> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-proxy-distribution:4.0.0
>> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:shardingsphere-sql-parser-sqlserver:4.0.0
>> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-orchestration-reg-nacos:4.0.0
>> ...
>>
>> ```
>>
>> Could we just leave them there, any advice?
>>
>> [1] https://jitpack.io/p/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc
>> [2]
>> https://jitpack.io/com/github/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc/4.0.0/build.log
>> ------------------
>>
>> Liang Zhang (John)
>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>
>>
>> Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午1:29写道:
>>
>>> Hi Justin,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt feedback, which always provides us valuable
>>> instructions.
>>> It seems like items currently remaining Errata is not a big issue, and
>>> the more critical case is the brand thing. Besides, to make the website
>>> more 'Apache'  is another improvement. Make sense, and we will look into
>>> two of them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Trista
>>>
>>>
>>>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>>>
>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
>>> E-mail: panjuan@apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/4/2020 12:18,Justin Mclean<jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is
>>> an Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would
>>> be nice to see more than that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>>
>>

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by "zhangliang@apache.org" <zh...@apache.org>.
Hi,
The original powered by page[1] has changed to users page[2].

[1] https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/
[2] https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/users/
<https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/>

------------------

Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo


zhangliang@apache.org <zh...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午2:38写道:

> I check the website https://jitpack.io, it looks like they[1] crawling
> the releases from GitHub directly, and then shade the groupId and
> artifactId by their own rule.
> The repo `dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc` is the previous repo before
> entering incubator, we just transferred the repo to
> `apache/incubator-shardingsphere` now.
> But jitpack may has a bug, they can not recognize the transferred repo.
>
> I check the release build log[1], the build is come from apache repo.
> After building finish totally, shade the package name. Please see details
> below:
>
> ```
>
> [INFO] sharding-ui-distribution ........................... SUCCESS [  0.690 s]
> [INFO] sharding-integration-test .......................... SUCCESS [  0.145 s]
> [INFO] sharding-jdbc-test ................................. SUCCESS [  0.527 s]
> [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
> [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [INFO] Total time:  05:06 min
> [INFO] Finished at: 2019-12-27T07:30:17Z
> [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: ignoring option MaxPermSize=256m; support was removed in 8.0
> Found module: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
> ...
>
> Build tool exit code: 0
> Looking for artifacts...
> Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
> Looking for pom.xml in build directory and ~/.m2
> Found artifact: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
> 2019-12-27T07:30:34.790832592Z
> Exit code: 0
>
> Build artifacts:
> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-proxy-distribution:4.0.0
> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:shardingsphere-sql-parser-sqlserver:4.0.0
> com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-orchestration-reg-nacos:4.0.0
> ...
>
> ```
>
> Could we just leave them there, any advice?
>
> [1] https://jitpack.io/p/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc
> [2]
> https://jitpack.io/com/github/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc/4.0.0/build.log
> ------------------
>
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>
>
> Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午1:29写道:
>
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt feedback, which always provides us valuable
>> instructions.
>> It seems like items currently remaining Errata is not a big issue, and
>> the more critical case is the brand thing. Besides, to make the website
>> more 'Apache'  is another improvement. Make sense, and we will look into
>> two of them.
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Trista
>>
>>
>>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>>
>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
>> E-mail: panjuan@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/4/2020 12:18,Justin Mclean<jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is
>> an Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would
>> be nice to see more than that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>>
>

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by "zhangliang@apache.org" <zh...@apache.org>.
I check the website https://jitpack.io, it looks like they[1] crawling the
releases from GitHub directly, and then shade the groupId and artifactId by
their own rule.
The repo `dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc` is the previous repo before
entering incubator, we just transferred the repo to
`apache/incubator-shardingsphere` now.
But jitpack may has a bug, they can not recognize the transferred repo.

I check the release build log[1], the build is come from apache repo. After
building finish totally, shade the package name. Please see details below:

```

[INFO] sharding-ui-distribution ........................... SUCCESS [  0.690 s]
[INFO] sharding-integration-test .......................... SUCCESS [  0.145 s]
[INFO] sharding-jdbc-test ................................. SUCCESS [  0.527 s]
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time:  05:06 min
[INFO] Finished at: 2019-12-27T07:30:17Z
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: ignoring option MaxPermSize=256m;
support was removed in 8.0
Found module: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
...

Build tool exit code: 0
Looking for artifacts...
Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dhttps.protocols=TLSv1.2
Looking for pom.xml in build directory and ~/.m2
Found artifact: org.apache.shardingsphere:shardingsphere:4.0.0
2019-12-27T07:30:34.790832592Z
Exit code: 0

Build artifacts:
com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-proxy-distribution:4.0.0
com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:shardingsphere-sql-parser-sqlserver:4.0.0
com.github.dangdangdotcom.sharding-jdbc:sharding-orchestration-reg-nacos:4.0.0
...

```

Could we just leave them there, any advice?

[1] https://jitpack.io/p/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc
[2]
https://jitpack.io/com/github/dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc/4.0.0/build.log
------------------

Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo


Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> 于2020年3月4日周三 下午1:29写道:

> Hi Justin,
>
>
> Thanks for your prompt feedback, which always provides us valuable
> instructions.
> It seems like items currently remaining Errata is not a big issue, and the
> more critical case is the brand thing. Besides, to make the website more
> 'Apache'  is another improvement. Make sense, and we will look into two of
> them.
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Trista
>
>
>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>
> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> E-mail: panjuan@apache.org
>
>
>
>
> On 03/4/2020 12:18,Justin Mclean<jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is an
> Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would be
> nice to see more than that.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>.
Hi Justin,


Thanks for your prompt feedback, which always provides us valuable instructions. 
It seems like items currently remaining Errata is not a big issue, and the more critical case is the brand thing. Besides, to make the website more 'Apache'  is another improvement. Make sense, and we will look into two of them. 


Best wishes,
Trista


 Juan Pan (Trista)
                         
Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
E-mail: panjuan@apache.org




On 03/4/2020 12:18,Justin Mclean<jm...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,

IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is an Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would be nice to see more than that.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.
Hi,

IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is an Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would be nice to see more than that.

Thanks,
Justin