Re: Create Pages for Forrest

[Markus Flach <ma...@flach.li>]

> hi there
> 
> can somebody tell me with is the best way to create documents for to
publish 
> with forrest.
> at the moment i'm creating my documents with openoffice and than i save
them 
> as DocBook XML.
> and so i implement those documents in my forrest navigation.
> 
> is there an other way i can do, i just wann know some common ways to
create 
> content for Forrest.
> 
> regards
> markus 
> 

I would like to know how does a forrest enviroment look.
Which is a a good prgramm to create documents to publish after with forrest.

Thanks

markus

Re: Create Pages for Forrest

[Cyriaque Dupoirieux <Cy...@pcotech.fr>]

le 12/10/2006 11:11 Markus Flach a écrit :
>> hi there
>>     
Hi Markus,
>> can somebody tell me with is the best way to create documents for to
>>     
> publish 
>   
>> with forrest.
>> at the moment i'm creating my documents with openoffice and than i save
>>     
> them 
>   
>> as DocBook XML.
>> and so i implement those documents in my forrest navigation.
>>
>> is there an other way i can do, i just wann know some common ways to
>>     
> create 
>   
>> content for Forrest.
>>
>> regards
>> markus 
>>
>>     
>
> I would like to know how does a forrest enviroment look.
> Which is a a good prgramm to create documents to publish after with forrest.
>   
The simpliest way - I mean for XML specialists - is to write sources 
documents in XML following the XDocs dtd.

I am currently working on the OpenDocument (odt) plugin to be able to 
use this format as source.
The plugin cover half of the XDocs format.

At the moment, the plugin only works with the 0.8-dev of forrest and is 
in the whiteboard which means that it is not fully supported.
The work progresses and I think it will be an easy way to create 
documents for none XML specialists.
(You still need to link these documents in the site and tabs navigation 
files...)

At the moment I have a problem of file shared with another project 
(Lenya) but it will soon be a good solution for you.


Salutations,
Cyriaque,

> Thanks
>
> markus
>
>
>   

Re: Create Pages for Forrest

[Sjur Moshagen <sj...@mac.com>]

Den 12. okt. 2006 kl. 15.05 skrev Gav....:

> Sjur, as far as I can tell, the 'Standard' FREE version can not  
> work with
> Forrest as it has preset DTDs that can not be altered. The  
> professional
> Version costs $220 USD for a 1 user license and may be out of reach  
> for
> Some budgets.

Your interpretation is incorrect. I have only been using the FREE  
version, without a problem. The restriction you're probably referring  
to is (IIRC) only related to schemas, not to DTDs.

Sjur

RE: Create Pages for Forrest

["Gav...." <br...@brightontown.com.au>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sjur Moshagen [mailto:sjurnm@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 5:42 PM
> To: user@forrest.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Create Pages for Forrest
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Den 12. okt. 2006 kl. 12.11 skrev Markus Flach:
> 
> >
> >> hi there
> >>
> >> can somebody tell me with is the best way to create documents for
> >> to publish
> >> with forrest.
> >> at the moment i'm creating my documents with openoffice and than i
> >> save them
> >> as DocBook XML.
> >> and so i implement those documents in my forrest navigation.
> >>
> >> is there an other way i can do, i just wann know some common ways
> >> to create
> >> content for Forrest.
> >>
> >> regards
> >> markus
> >>
> >
> > I would like to know how does a forrest enviroment look.
> > Which is a a good prgramm to create documents to publish after with
> > forrest.
> 
> Your Forrest environment can be anything you like, as long as it can
> produce a format supported by Forrest or one of its input plugins:-)
> 
> If your main task is to write documentation using Forrest's own
> DTD's, then I would suggest using XMLMind XML Editor
> (www.xmlmind.com) in combination with the Forrest config for XXE
> (available from the Forrest site). This will allow you to easily edit
> and write XML documents that adhere to either the Forrest 1.x DTDs or
> the 2.0 DTD, you will get DTD-supported validation and insert guides,
> you will get a styled text-view (similar to what you see in a word
> processor) but with all the underlying XML structure in place.
> 
> I use this combo myself when I'm writing lengthier documents. For
> short documents I just write the raw XML, as Cyriaque suggests in his
> reply.
> 
> NOTE: XMLMind XML Editor has in one of its recent upgrades introduced
> new features that break some backwards compatibility with the Forrest
> XXE config. This means that you get an error message at startup. The
> error message can be ignored, just press OK. Everything but the table
> menu works as it should. I'll try to get around creating a patch for
> the plugin soon - but no promise;-) You are as well free to submit
> patches, if you manage to fix it:-)
> 
> Best regards,
> Sjur

Sjur, as far as I can tell, the 'Standard' FREE version can not work with
Forrest as it has preset DTDs that can not be altered. The professional
Version costs $220 USD for a 1 user license and may be out of reach for 
Some budgets.

Are you able to clarify if my interpretation is correct.

At the moment Markus, I am just hand coding the XML to forrest DTDs using
Plain old Vim. Though I have just imported the Forrest DTD into Dreamweaver
So should be able to start using that now - you never know , drag and drop
Forrest elements may be a possibility (doubt it though atm)

Gav...

Re: Create Pages for Forrest

[Sjur Moshagen <sj...@mac.com>]

Hello,

Den 12. okt. 2006 kl. 12.11 skrev Markus Flach:

>
>> hi there
>>
>> can somebody tell me with is the best way to create documents for  
>> to publish
>> with forrest.
>> at the moment i'm creating my documents with openoffice and than i  
>> save them
>> as DocBook XML.
>> and so i implement those documents in my forrest navigation.
>>
>> is there an other way i can do, i just wann know some common ways  
>> to create
>> content for Forrest.
>>
>> regards
>> markus
>>
>
> I would like to know how does a forrest enviroment look.
> Which is a a good prgramm to create documents to publish after with  
> forrest.

Your Forrest environment can be anything you like, as long as it can  
produce a format supported by Forrest or one of its input plugins:-)

If your main task is to write documentation using Forrest's own  
DTD's, then I would suggest using XMLMind XML Editor  
(www.xmlmind.com) in combination with the Forrest config for XXE  
(available from the Forrest site). This will allow you to easily edit  
and write XML documents that adhere to either the Forrest 1.x DTDs or  
the 2.0 DTD, you will get DTD-supported validation and insert guides,  
you will get a styled text-view (similar to what you see in a word  
processor) but with all the underlying XML structure in place.

I use this combo myself when I'm writing lengthier documents. For  
short documents I just write the raw XML, as Cyriaque suggests in his  
reply.

NOTE: XMLMind XML Editor has in one of its recent upgrades introduced  
new features that break some backwards compatibility with the Forrest  
XXE config. This means that you get an error message at startup. The  
error message can be ignored, just press OK. Everything but the table  
menu works as it should. I'll try to get around creating a patch for  
the plugin soon - but no promise;-) You are as well free to submit  
patches, if you manage to fix it:-)

Best regards,
Sjur