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Re: The copyright change in ko.po@r18328

Øyvind A. Holm <su...@sunbase.org> writes:
> Received this response about the patch which ended up as r18328:
> On 2006-02-03 23:01:05 Sigfred Håversen wrote:
> > You can't change the copyright unless you have the copyright holders 
> > permission to do so. From your patch it seems that all 
> > acknowledgements of Hojin Choi contributions are removed.
>
> What is CollabNet’s view on this? Judging by the copyright talk in 
> www/hacking.html all files in the source outside contrib/ should be 
> copyrighted by CollabNet, or is this only for essential files?

All source files (except those in contrib/) in the tree should list
CollabNet as the copyright holder, otherwise we have unnecessary legal
chaos.  This isn't some new policy, it's been in effect since day 1 of
the project.

Copyright and acknowledgement are two unrelated things, of course.
Regarding acknowledgement, we usually don't put author names in source
files, to avoid territoriality.  Hojin Choi should be credited in the
logs, of course.  (Also, I just checked in some other .po files, it
looks like we don't put author names there.)

-Karl

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Re: The copyright change in ko.po@r18328

Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Marc Sherman wrote:
> kfogel@collab.net wrote:
>>
>> Copyright and acknowledgement are two unrelated things, of course.
>> Regarding acknowledgement, we usually don't put author names in source
>> files, to avoid territoriality.  Hojin Choi should be credited in the
>> logs, of course.  (Also, I just checked in some other .po files, it
>> looks like we don't put author names there.)
>
> Sigfred's point is that it's not legal to unilaterally remove Hojin's
> copyright statement; unless Hojin explicitly assigns copyright to
> CollabNet, the file has to be removed (or the "all copyright must be
> CollabNet" policy must be relaxed).  If Hojin does assign copyright, you
> can change the copyright statement; his email making the assignment
> should probably be put in the svn:log for the revision that changes the
> copyright statement.
>
> - Marc, Not A Lawyer, Not Giving Legal Advice

Marc's correct, at least as far as I understand as well and have seen 
in Apache (and also IANAL).

 	Brian

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Re: The copyright change in ko.po@r18328

Posted by kf...@collab.net.
Marc Sherman <ms...@projectile.ca> writes:
> > Copyright and acknowledgement are two unrelated things, of course.
> > Regarding acknowledgement, we usually don't put author names in source
> > files, to avoid territoriality.  Hojin Choi should be credited in the
> > logs, of course.  (Also, I just checked in some other .po files, it
> > looks like we don't put author names there.)
> 
> Sigfred's point is that it's not legal to unilaterally remove Hojin's
> copyright statement; unless Hojin explicitly assigns copyright to
> CollabNet, the file has to be removed (or the "all copyright must be
> CollabNet" policy must be relaxed).  If Hojin does assign copyright, you
> can change the copyright statement; his email making the assignment
> should probably be put in the svn:log for the revision that changes the
> copyright statement.

Ah, I see.

Well, since this is all under version control and we're not exactly a
litigious crowd here: Hojin, any objections to the copyright notice
change?  If so, we can simply remove the file (but of course we'd
rather keep it).

Thanks,
-Karl


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Re: The copyright change in ko.po@r18328

Posted by Marc Sherman <ms...@projectile.ca>.
kfogel@collab.net wrote:
> 
> Copyright and acknowledgement are two unrelated things, of course.
> Regarding acknowledgement, we usually don't put author names in source
> files, to avoid territoriality.  Hojin Choi should be credited in the
> logs, of course.  (Also, I just checked in some other .po files, it
> looks like we don't put author names there.)

Sigfred's point is that it's not legal to unilaterally remove Hojin's
copyright statement; unless Hojin explicitly assigns copyright to
CollabNet, the file has to be removed (or the "all copyright must be
CollabNet" policy must be relaxed).  If Hojin does assign copyright, you
can change the copyright statement; his email making the assignment
should probably be put in the svn:log for the revision that changes the
copyright statement.

- Marc, Not A Lawyer, Not Giving Legal Advice


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