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Beginners question
Hope ya dont mind but I have a pretty simple question. We are looking
at implementing a SVG Viewer/Editor on our site and I was wondering
three things. Is requiring our customers to have the Adobe plugin
beneficial. If so and we put some javascript controls in to allow
editing, is there away to get the finished svg out and submitted, or
would we have to create something like Batik to do that. My last
question is what have you guys done, anything like implementing a
clothing creation software or menu style chooser and graphic editor.
Thanks
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Re: Beginners question
Posted by Dan McCullough <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks I'll look into the yahoo groups svg-developers, also thanks for
the bit of information.
Just to give you an idea of what I am looking to build here are a
couple of examples.
http://www.laxzilla.com/designer/jd.asp
http://www.totallywrestling.com/ccs/
Except non-flash.
On 6/23/05, Thomas DeWeese <Th...@kodak.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> Just an FYI, you might find yahoo groups svg-developers more
> helpful for general SVG scripting and Adobe plugin questions.
>
> Dan McCullough wrote:
>
> > Hope ya dont mind but I have a pretty simple question. We are looking
> > at implementing a SVG Viewer/Editor on our site and I was wondering
> > three things. Is requiring our customers to have the Adobe plugin
> > beneficial.
>
> I'm not sure I fully understand this question. If you want them
> to view SVG they need some sort of SVG User Agent. Adobe is I think
> the best for browser integration. It has some rendering speed
> advantages as well, but it is not as flexible as something like
> a Java WebStart Application.
>
> If the comparison is between an interactive SVG application
> vs a submit to server - render new JPEG for viewer to see, user
> modifies the form a bit more submits again (wash, rinse, repeat).
> I don't think there is much comparison.
>
> One nice thing is that by using SVG you can probably support
> both fairly easily. In the server version the SVG is built on
> the server from the form data and rendered, in the interactive
> case the exact same SVG can be built directly on the client and
> rendered locally, when they are done it can be posted back to
> the server (perhaps do a final rendering for them) and you are
> done.
>
> > If so and we put some javascript controls in to allow
> > editing, is there away to get the finished svg out and submitted, or
> > would we have to create something like Batik to do that.
>
> You can use the javascript function postURL to send parts of the SVG
> content back to the server.
>
> > My last question is what have you guys done, anything like implementing a
> > clothing creation software or menu style chooser and graphic editor.
>
> I've done some fairly advanced SVG scripting work (take a look at
> the solitaire games in the samples directory of Batik). There is also
> project called Spark which is building GUI widgets in SVG+JavaScript
> that might be useful. I think for stuff like putting names on
> shirts and stuff it should be pretty easy to create a pretty advanced
> SVG interface. It would be difficult to allow for custom graphics
> etc (perhaps with a Java Web Start type application), mostly due
> to the 'import' issues.
>
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Re: Beginners question
Posted by Thomas DeWeese <Th...@Kodak.com>.
Hi Dan,
Just an FYI, you might find yahoo groups svg-developers more
helpful for general SVG scripting and Adobe plugin questions.
Dan McCullough wrote:
> Hope ya dont mind but I have a pretty simple question. We are looking
> at implementing a SVG Viewer/Editor on our site and I was wondering
> three things. Is requiring our customers to have the Adobe plugin
> beneficial.
I'm not sure I fully understand this question. If you want them
to view SVG they need some sort of SVG User Agent. Adobe is I think
the best for browser integration. It has some rendering speed
advantages as well, but it is not as flexible as something like
a Java WebStart Application.
If the comparison is between an interactive SVG application
vs a submit to server - render new JPEG for viewer to see, user
modifies the form a bit more submits again (wash, rinse, repeat).
I don't think there is much comparison.
One nice thing is that by using SVG you can probably support
both fairly easily. In the server version the SVG is built on
the server from the form data and rendered, in the interactive
case the exact same SVG can be built directly on the client and
rendered locally, when they are done it can be posted back to
the server (perhaps do a final rendering for them) and you are
done.
> If so and we put some javascript controls in to allow
> editing, is there away to get the finished svg out and submitted, or
> would we have to create something like Batik to do that.
You can use the javascript function postURL to send parts of the SVG
content back to the server.
> My last question is what have you guys done, anything like implementing a
> clothing creation software or menu style chooser and graphic editor.
I've done some fairly advanced SVG scripting work (take a look at
the solitaire games in the samples directory of Batik). There is also
project called Spark which is building GUI widgets in SVG+JavaScript
that might be useful. I think for stuff like putting names on
shirts and stuff it should be pretty easy to create a pretty advanced
SVG interface. It would be difficult to allow for custom graphics
etc (perhaps with a Java Web Start type application), mostly due
to the 'import' issues.
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