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Posted to dev@devicemap.apache.org by Reza Naghibi <re...@yahoo.com> on 2013/02/26 16:21:16 UTC
Web based Mobile os
Werner, can you re explain the implications of this, for my understanding?
So you are saying that this os can encompass both devices, tablets, and desktops? They will support popular browsers like chrome and firefox? Will these browsers expose a device name in the UA? What will change?
Can you maybe give me some examples of what we could see in the wild?
In dclass, I have started to go down the road where os detection is a separate index than device detection.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:13:07
To: <de...@incubator.apache.org>
Reply-To: devicemap-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Test Data
Another indicator, why Web-based Mobile OS are likely to become stronger
very soon, especially in what used to be "Feature Phones" and their
replacements by cheaper devices than full-scale Android or Apple devices[?]
So we're looking at potentially *a very large number*, if Firefox or Chrome
OS are spread across the world...
http://readwrite.com/2013/02/25/mozillas-firefox-os-smartphones-unveiled-at-mobile-world-congress
Werner
Re: Web based Mobile os
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Because that Firefox OS demo might be the only place to answer questions
like the one Reza asked here before...
Re: Web based Mobile os
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Btw, it's extremely sad, maybe in the year to come we have a chance to
change that, looking at PhoneGap, a "pseudo-standard" for client-side
device recognition being demoed at the W3C booth at MWC and projects based
on actual W3C Standards like DeviceMap or OpenDDR aren't:
https://www.w3.org/2013/MWC/#demos
Any of you even there this year?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Reza,
>
> Thanks a lot for your interest.
> I'm afraid, without the actual device or a reliable emulator, I cannot
> tell, neither for Firefox OS nor ChromeOS, although there should be a few
> notebooks out there already with that OS by now.
>
> As mentioned in my OpenDDR presentations like this one
> http://www.slideshare.net/keilw/openddr OpenDDR considers 3 aspects:
>
> - Physical Device
> - OS
> - Browser
>
> Thus while the browser may remain Chrome or Firefox or even still say
> something like "Mozilla" for most, the physical device and/or OS will vary
> in each of those cases.
>
> Given the client API for C# and Java is so far modeled closely after
> OpenDDR, that also applies to DeviceMap for most parts.
>
> Regards,
> Werner
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Reza Naghibi <re...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Werner, can you re explain the implications of this, for my understanding?
>>
>> So you are saying that this os can encompass both devices, tablets, and
>> desktops? They will support popular browsers like chrome and firefox? Will
>> these browsers expose a device name in the UA? What will change?
>>
>> Can you maybe give me some examples of what we could see in the wild?
>>
>> In dclass, I have started to go down the road where os detection is a
>> separate index than device detection.
>>
>> ---
>> Sent from Blackberry Bold 9900
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:13:07
>> To: <de...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Reply-To: devicemap-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Test Data
>>
>> Another indicator, why Web-based Mobile OS are likely to become stronger
>> very soon, especially in what used to be "Feature Phones" and their
>> replacements by cheaper devices than full-scale Android or Apple
>> devices[?]
>>
>> So we're looking at potentially *a very large number*, if Firefox or
>> Chrome
>> OS are spread across the world...
>>
>> http://readwrite.com/2013/02/25/mozillas-firefox-os-smartphones-unveiled-at-mobile-world-congress
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>
Re: Web based Mobile os
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Reza,
Thanks a lot for your interest.
I'm afraid, without the actual device or a reliable emulator, I cannot
tell, neither for Firefox OS nor ChromeOS, although there should be a few
notebooks out there already with that OS by now.
As mentioned in my OpenDDR presentations like this one
http://www.slideshare.net/keilw/openddr OpenDDR considers 3 aspects:
- Physical Device
- OS
- Browser
Thus while the browser may remain Chrome or Firefox or even still say
something like "Mozilla" for most, the physical device and/or OS will vary
in each of those cases.
Given the client API for C# and Java is so far modeled closely after
OpenDDR, that also applies to DeviceMap for most parts.
Regards,
Werner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Reza Naghibi <re...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Werner, can you re explain the implications of this, for my understanding?
>
> So you are saying that this os can encompass both devices, tablets, and
> desktops? They will support popular browsers like chrome and firefox? Will
> these browsers expose a device name in the UA? What will change?
>
> Can you maybe give me some examples of what we could see in the wild?
>
> In dclass, I have started to go down the road where os detection is a
> separate index than device detection.
>
> ---
> Sent from Blackberry Bold 9900
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:13:07
> To: <de...@incubator.apache.org>
> Reply-To: devicemap-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Test Data
>
> Another indicator, why Web-based Mobile OS are likely to become stronger
> very soon, especially in what used to be "Feature Phones" and their
> replacements by cheaper devices than full-scale Android or Apple devices[?]
>
> So we're looking at potentially *a very large number*, if Firefox or Chrome
> OS are spread across the world...
>
> http://readwrite.com/2013/02/25/mozillas-firefox-os-smartphones-unveiled-at-mobile-world-congress
>
> Werner
>
>