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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by Myrna van Lunteren <m....@gmail.com> on 2014/09/03 00:20:25 UTC

Re: Java 6 vs. 7

For what it's worth, I found a page showing IBM's published plans for Java
6 (and other versions) support:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/lifecycle/

Myrna


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-6721 to track this
> task.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There are several aspects. In the language,  I like try with with
>> resources, type inference,  and multi - catch clauses.
>>
>> I am in a special situation in that I am working on a custom derby build
>> for a special use case. Using one level of jdbc and java makes the whole
>> task easier to develop,  build and in general deal with.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Myrna van Lunteren
>> Date:08/28/2014 14:31 (GMT-05:00)
>> To: derbydev
>> Subject: Re: Java 6 vs. 7
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I looked but cannot find any official EOS statements or dates for Java 6
>> from IBM.
>>
>> I found that Java 5 by IBM had a EOS(or perhaps EOL?) in 2009 - just like
>> Oracle did; which does not imply a commitment regarding Java 6, however.
>>
>> Either way, I think it's fair to deprecate Java 6 in a future feature
>> release - I like Rick's proposal.
>>
>> Was there some specific functionality that is of concern/interest here?
>>
>> Myrna
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Rick Hillegas <rick.hillegas@oracle.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/27/14 5:32 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Now that DERBY-6213 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-6213>
>>>> is in the books, is there any interest here in deprecating Java 6 in favor
>>>> of Java 7?
>>>>
>>>> Gary
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>>> Thanks for raising this issue, Gary. Oracle stopped creating public
>>> releases of Java 6 last year: http://www.oracle.com/
>>> technetwork/java/eol-135779.html. However, Oracle continues to provide
>>> new releases of Java 6 for customers who buy support contracts. I can't
>>> find any information on IBM's commitment to Java 6. Maybe one of the IBM
>>> engineers can comment.
>>>
>>> In the interests of reducing code/testing complexity, I'd be happy to
>>> deprecate support for Java 6. When we deprecate a platform, we generally
>>> produce one last feature release for it. It is that last release which
>>> announces the deprecation. If we followed that convention, then next year's
>>> 10.12 release would still support Java 6. The first release to drop Java 6
>>> support would be 10.13, due out in 2016 if we keep to our usual release
>>> cadence.
>>>
>>> What do other people think?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Rick
>>>
>>
>>
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