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Nightly builds broken
Hi,
A user pointed out to me that our nightly builds appear to be broken.
First I assumed it was due Gump unhappiness and I thought Mark T and
Bill B fixed it over the past few days. But last night's builds still
look whacky: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-5/nightly/.
The binaries are 45 bytes in size and invalid, the sources are about
200MB in size (Tomcat 5.5.15 correct source distros are a little less
than 6MB).
Also as an aside, all the Gump files still call it jakarta-tomcat-*
rather than apache-tomcat-* or just tomcat-*. I'm not a Gump expert,
but I believe the Gump project file we want to update is (at least)
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/gump/metadata/project/jakarta-tomcat-catalina.xml.
Thoughts?
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Yoav Shapira
System Design and Management Fellow
MIT Sloan School of Management
Cambridge, MA, USA
yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
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Re: Nightly builds broken
Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Mmm, I'm neutral on nightly builds. They can lead to more trouble
than it's worth:
- Users using a nightly build of unknown stability instead of an
actual release, then asking for support
- Extra load on infrastructure
- Extra load on Gump people to keep the relevant scripts and Gumpy
files up to date
And for what? This user was the first request I've seen in a long
long time for nightly builds, and he didn't even want the whole build,
just the jsp examples webapp containing the XSS fix. So I don't think
they're used that much, don't think they add much value. Anyone doing
testing, be it individuals or organizations like JBoss, Covalent,
Spikesource, whatever, isn't going to test, much less ship, off a
nightly build. And if someone really wants a build at any time, it's
easy (and documented) to build individually on the client side using
our existing build file and its download target.
Actually, maybe I'm closer to -1 than 0 on nightly builds ;)
Yoav
On 1/24/06, Peter Rossbach <pr...@objektpark.de> wrote:
> +1
> to have nightly builds!
>
> Regards
> Peter
>
>
>
> Am 24.01.2006 um 16:52 schrieb Jeanfrancois Arcand:
>
> > Hi Yoav,
> >
> > Yoav Shapira wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> A user pointed out to me that our nightly builds appear to be
> >> broken. First I assumed it was due Gump unhappiness and I thought
> >> Mark T and
> >> Bill B fixed it over the past few days. But last night's builds
> >> still
> >> look whacky: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-5/
> >> nightly/. The binaries are 45 bytes in size and invalid, the
> >> sources are about
> >> 200MB in size (Tomcat 5.5.15 correct source distros are a little less
> >> than 6MB).
> >> Also as an aside, all the Gump files still call it jakarta-tomcat-*
> >> rather than apache-tomcat-* or just tomcat-*. I'm not a Gump expert,
> >> but I believe the Gump project file we want to update is (at least)
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/gump/metadata/project/jakarta-
> >> tomcat-catalina.xml.
> >
> > I've posted here a long time ago asking if we still want to have
> > nightly or not, and got no response, So I stopped the script since
> > it was still using CVS. Do we want nightly build? If yes, then I
> > will fix the script and re-add it to the cron job.
> >
> > -- Jeanfrancois
> >
> >
> >> Thoughts?
> >> --
> >> Yoav Shapira
> >> System Design and Management Fellow
> >> MIT Sloan School of Management
> >> Cambridge, MA, USA
> >> yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
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Re: Nightly builds broken
Posted by Peter Rossbach <pr...@objektpark.de>.
+1
to have nightly builds!
Regards
Peter
Am 24.01.2006 um 16:52 schrieb Jeanfrancois Arcand:
> Hi Yoav,
>
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
>> Hi,
>> A user pointed out to me that our nightly builds appear to be
>> broken. First I assumed it was due Gump unhappiness and I thought
>> Mark T and
>> Bill B fixed it over the past few days. But last night's builds
>> still
>> look whacky: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-5/
>> nightly/. The binaries are 45 bytes in size and invalid, the
>> sources are about
>> 200MB in size (Tomcat 5.5.15 correct source distros are a little less
>> than 6MB).
>> Also as an aside, all the Gump files still call it jakarta-tomcat-*
>> rather than apache-tomcat-* or just tomcat-*. I'm not a Gump expert,
>> but I believe the Gump project file we want to update is (at least)
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/gump/metadata/project/jakarta-
>> tomcat-catalina.xml.
>
> I've posted here a long time ago asking if we still want to have
> nightly or not, and got no response, So I stopped the script since
> it was still using CVS. Do we want nightly build? If yes, then I
> will fix the script and re-add it to the cron job.
>
> -- Jeanfrancois
>
>
>> Thoughts?
>> --
>> Yoav Shapira
>> System Design and Management Fellow
>> MIT Sloan School of Management
>> Cambridge, MA, USA
>> yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
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Re: Nightly builds broken
Posted by Jeanfrancois Arcand <jf...@apache.org>.
Hi Yoav,
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> A user pointed out to me that our nightly builds appear to be broken.
> First I assumed it was due Gump unhappiness and I thought Mark T and
> Bill B fixed it over the past few days. But last night's builds still
> look whacky: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-5/nightly/.
> The binaries are 45 bytes in size and invalid, the sources are about
> 200MB in size (Tomcat 5.5.15 correct source distros are a little less
> than 6MB).
>
> Also as an aside, all the Gump files still call it jakarta-tomcat-*
> rather than apache-tomcat-* or just tomcat-*. I'm not a Gump expert,
> but I believe the Gump project file we want to update is (at least)
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/gump/metadata/project/jakarta-tomcat-catalina.xml.
I've posted here a long time ago asking if we still want to have nightly
or not, and got no response, So I stopped the script since it was still
using CVS. Do we want nightly build? If yes, then I will fix the script
and re-add it to the cron job.
-- Jeanfrancois
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Yoav Shapira
> System Design and Management Fellow
> MIT Sloan School of Management
> Cambridge, MA, USA
> yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
>
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RE: Nightly builds broken
Posted by Bill Barker <wb...@wilshire.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yoavshapira@gmail.com [mailto:yoavshapira@gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Yoav Shapira
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:49 AM
> To: Tomcat-dev
> Subject: Nightly builds broken
>
> Hi,
> A user pointed out to me that our nightly builds appear to be broken.
> First I assumed it was due Gump unhappiness and I thought Mark T and
> Bill B fixed it over the past few days. But last night's builds still
> look whacky: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-5/nightly/.
> The binaries are 45 bytes in size and invalid, the sources are about
> 200MB in size (Tomcat 5.5.15 correct source distros are a little less
> than 6MB).
Actually, Gump runs (or at least the one that nags) on vmgump.apache.org
(http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/index.html). Also, Gump hasn't
published the jars it builds for quite some time (to avoid licensing
issues).
Also Gump builds aren't true nightlies, since they build everything against
the HEAD of everything else, not against the version specified in
build.properties.default.
>
> Also as an aside, all the Gump files still call it jakarta-tomcat-*
> rather than apache-tomcat-* or just tomcat-*. I'm not a Gump expert,
> but I believe the Gump project file we want to update is (at least)
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/gump/metadata/project/jakarta-
> tomcat-catalina.xml.
>
Actually the closest to a nightly would be jakarta-tomcat-5.xml, but that
one hasn't built in about 6 months (currently because of axis, before that
xdoclet). The jakarta-tomcat-catalina one is only the 5.5 container part of
the build.
I was too lazy to change the gump project names on the svn move :). There
are about seven jakarta-tomcat*.xml project files, and three
jakarta-servlet-api*.xml files that would need to be moved. You'd also need
to change the reference to the files in profile/gump.xml, and track down all
of the other projects that depend on them (e.g. 67 for jakarta-servletapi-4)
and change it there as well.
All ASF committers have karma for the Gump metadata, so if anybody feels
strongly about the names, knock yourself out :).
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Yoav Shapira
> System Design and Management Fellow
> MIT Sloan School of Management
> Cambridge, MA, USA
> yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
>
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