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Posted to dev@taverna.apache.org by Alan Williams <al...@googlemail.com> on 2015/11/23 12:17:49 UTC
Taverna components
> Dear Taverna team,
>
> How do I make the component I put on MyExperiment available? I tried private and public, but I still cannot see them from a different computer.
> A related question that I have, where can I browse the available components? how to download them, modify them, etc. ?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Yassene
Re: Taverna components
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
Finn checked and
http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/4773.html
and
http://www.myexperiment.org/files/1410.html
are not public.
Alan
Re: Taverna components
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
Hello Yassene
On 02/12/2015 15:52, Y.Mohammed@lumc.nl wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> I actually have the permission for that component pack as public and
> every one can view and update (see attached screenshot). I even
> shared each workflow of each component openly with everyone. So I
> wonder how can I let a new computer see these components and further
> see that component pack in the drop down menu of Import new
> services->component service.
Attached is what I see for the items. The profile and the
single_double_flatten workflow are not public. Finn is checking on myE.
> Any hint is much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Yassene
Alan
Re: Taverna components
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
Hello Yassene
When you create the component family on myExperiment, you are able to
specify whether the family and its member components will be private or
public. Did you choose public?
I've looked at the code and I do not understand, if I can see your
components, that your colleagues cannot. Are there any messages in the
log files? Can they see the component in a browser or in the myE
perspective of Taverna?
At the moment there are no utilities for sharing private families. I
think the best way would be to have a private family that you use for
development and then publish (copy) a component into a public family.
Alan
Re: Taverna components
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
On 03/12/2015 14:35, Y.Mohammed@lumc.nl wrote:
> Many thanks Alan for your emails. Yes, I updated the component
> permission individually yesterday. I probably do not understand the
> process very well: I have created a family and few components and
> made the component pack open to everyone. I still however needed to
> update the permission for each single workflow in the component pack
> so everyone can see them. Nonetheless, people still cannot see the
> pack and the component are not accessible in a workflow, for instance
> try the attached one. Even when pressing on add new service ->
> component -> myExperiment, the component pack protein_network_2 is
> not visible.
This is _very_ strange. I can see the component pack and I can add the
components to a workflow. I can also run the workflow that you attached.
Can the people see _any_ components?
> Is there any step by step tutorial that I can follow. how do you guys
> uploaded all the current components?
I will look this weekend.
> Again any hint is very much appreciated.
>
> Many thanks, Yassene
Alan
RE: Taverna components
Posted by Y....@lumc.nl.
Many thanks Alan for your emails. Yes, I updated the component permission individually yesterday. I probably do not understand the process very well: I have created a family and few components and made the component pack open to everyone. I still however needed to update the permission for each single workflow in the component pack so everyone can see them. Nonetheless, people still cannot see the pack and the component are not accessible in a workflow, for instance try the attached one. Even when pressing on add new service -> component -> myExperiment, the component pack protein_network_2 is not visible.
Is there any step by step tutorial that I can follow. how do you guys uploaded all the current components?
Again any hint is very much appreciated.
Many thanks,
Yassene
________________________________________
From: alaninmcr [alaninmcr@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 5:27 PM
To: Mohammed, Y. (CPM); dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Taverna components
Yassene
I guess you have changed the visibility as I now see the component family.
Alan
Re: Taverna components
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
Yassene
I guess you have changed the visibility as I now see the component family.
Alan
RE: Taverna components
Posted by Y....@lumc.nl.
Hi Alan,
I actually have the permission for that component pack as public and every one can view and update (see attached screenshot). I even shared each workflow of each component openly with everyone. So I wonder how can I let a new computer see these components and further see that component pack in the drop down menu of Import new services->component service.
Any hint is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Yassene
________________________________________
From: Alan Williams [alaninmcr@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:34 PM
To: Mohammed, Y. (CPM); dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Taverna components
Hello Yassene
When I view the component family on myE, I see "You are not authorised
to view the item this entry points to." for all four items. I wonder if
this is the problem.
Alan
Re: Taverna components
Posted by Alan Williams <al...@googlemail.com>.
Hello Yassene
When I view the component family on myE, I see "You are not authorised
to view the item this entry points to." for all four items. I wonder if
this is the problem.
Alan
RE: Re: Taverna components
Posted by Y....@lumc.nl.
Hello Alan, dev group,
The components were uploaded from taverna, I used the available public empty profile and went through import profile, create family, and then create component from current workflow on myE.
My component group is called protein_network_2. I chose the permissions that it should be public, everyone can download, but only my can change it. If I search for it, I find it. However, the components in the workflow itself are gray on other computer and Taverna cannot see them.
Could it be the permission? Any idea is welcome.
Many thanks,
Yassene
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From: alaninmcr [alaninmcr@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Mohammed, Y. (CPM)
Subject: Fwd: Re: Taverna components
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Subject: Re: Taverna components
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 12:07:11 +0000
From: alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>
To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
On 23/11/2015 11:17, Alan Williams wrote:
>> Dear Taverna team,
>>
>> How do I make the component I put on MyExperiment available? I tried
>> private and public, but I still cannot see them from a different
>> computer.
Hello Yassene.
How did you upload the component to myExperiment?
>> A related question that I have, where can I browse the available
>> components? how to download them, modify them, etc. ?
You can browse the components in Taverna. Alternatively, you can filter
the workflows on myExperiment as they are tagged with "component". You
can open the components in Taverna and (if you have sufficient
privileges) modify them and save them again to myExperiment. This should
be done, though, through the components menus _not_ through the normal
myE access.
The UI of myE (sadly) has not been updated for components, although the
API has.
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Yassene
Alan
Re: Taverna components
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
On 23/11/2015 11:17, Alan Williams wrote:
>> Dear Taverna team,
>>
>> How do I make the component I put on MyExperiment available? I tried
>> private and public, but I still cannot see them from a different
>> computer.
Hello Yassene.
How did you upload the component to myExperiment?
>> A related question that I have, where can I browse the available
>> components? how to download them, modify them, etc. ?
You can browse the components in Taverna. Alternatively, you can filter
the workflows on myExperiment as they are tagged with "component". You
can open the components in Taverna and (if you have sufficient
privileges) modify them and save them again to myExperiment. This should
be done, though, through the components menus _not_ through the normal
myE access.
The UI of myE (sadly) has not been updated for components, although the
API has.
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Yassene
Alan