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Posted to user@predictionio.apache.org by Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> on 2016/07/17 16:01:44 UTC
Re: Services are completely down
TLDR; rely on ActionML.com because we offer commercial support for PredictionIO and use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user> but watch for developments on the Apache mailing list here: user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
The prediction.io site is not being maintained during the transition to Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document until we get an Apache site running.
As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to get everyone on the same page.
Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial installations and customizations constantly during this period.
BTW can someone document how to subscribe to user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org ?
On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eu...@gmail.com> wrote:
ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do? Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>.
First, Pat provides a good example of how to walk the line between Apache and commercial concerns in his response. Make a distinction between the two. Clearly delineate responsibilities. Refer all discussion related to the non Apache concern to the appropriate venue.
Let me just talk about the Apache side concerns:
This is not the first forward from non Apache lists to the Apache lists. Why not sign up the appropriate Apache list to a Google group while in transition? Not seeing much discussion here because with the occasional forward we glimpse it all still happening somewhere else. (I also get the sense not much discussion is happening at all - Is this correct?)
The website is waiting for someone on the project to make and push static site files. A wiki space is up and running. Documenting how to subscribe to Apache emails for PIO users is the project's responsibility. As Apache is a "do-ocracy" one is more likely to see something done by just doing it.
I have seen some of the PPMC file JIRAs but have not seen any development activity. The git repos for source and site are open but there have been no commits. I like the characterization as 'vacation season' (smile), the transition will take some time, but I'm curious when it will begin. Is there something blocking activity that has not been sufficiently surfaced? GitHub integration working? Or not? Something else? If you experience or observe a problem make noise until it is resolved. Nothing will happen otherwise.
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>
> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com because we offer commercial support for PredictionIO and use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user but watch for developments on the Apache mailing list here: user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
>
> The prediction.io site is not being maintained during the transition to Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document until we get an Apache site running.
>
> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to get everyone on the same page.
>
> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>
> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org ?
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do? Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>
>
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>.
There is a repo incubator-predictionio-site created for hosting artifacts for gitpubsub. I asked the PPMC if you wanted a separate repo and you said yes. This was discussed on private@ during the podling setup period.
I have also mentioned multiple times in emails to the PPMC that this repo is ready and waiting for someone to commit static site docs to an 'asf-site' branch, at which point we can ask infra to turn on gitpubsub. They are waiting for you.
> On Jul 18, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>
> After a little looking around I can see that we have not decided where to store the git docs repo or alt least I see no mirror on github.
>
> I propose we make docs part of the main repo so we don’t have to create another one. The docs/ sub-firectory contains the old site contents and some things that seem to have been deprecated as well as java and scala docs. I propose we move this to something like docs-history to get it out of the way and create a new docs/ for the pio apache docs.
>
> If that seems ok I can do this. This guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html says we should have a site at http://predictionio.incubator.apache.org/ Has a Jira been filed for infra to create this? If not I can do this.
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure how to subscribe to the Google group from user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org, I had to sign in to Google to subscribe iirc, maybe the owner can do it? I guess we can just include the GG address as above.
>
> If we had one page describing status and how to sign up to the mailing lists it would be super helpful for users. I thought it was suggesting we not edit the wiki but maybe I heard wrong. Can someone point me to instructions or a closed Jira? I’ve used the CMS but not gitpubsub. Agree with the do-ocracy so I’ll do something if pointed in the right direction.
>
> (BTW read carefully, not pointing at infra. only saying it’s part of the process)
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Because we are incubating, much at issue with respect to Apache policy found with a release will not block it, as long as we promise to fix it for the next one, but it may take a couple of release candidates to get a minimum viable release out. I'd advise in general making the attempt at an Apache branded release right away.
>
>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> I will take a shot at putting up a site on Apache this week. The effort in trying to restore services that rely on the old domain is not up to speed.
>>
>> I'd also suggest releasing a quick patch release for this change. I'll help start a new thread on dev@.
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Some of the initial delay is my responsibility. I waited after the acceptance vote to file tickets to get things moving until I had a good personal sense there would be no problem (at least on the Salesforce side) with transfer of the PIO trademark and also discussed the matter with the IPMC.
>>>
>>> I agree, though, now the onus is on Apache PredictionIO to start moving. Unless, like I mentioned in my other email, there is some kind of blocker in your workflow. Even then nothing will resolve if you're not making noise about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PRedictionIO is all set up as an Apache project, the reason the website is not up has more to do with new Apache PredictionIO PMC not moving fast and has nothing to do with Apache Infra team, so stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and how slow things are.
>>>>
>>>> Apache Pirk project was started < 10 days ago and they have everything up and running including the website - http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/ and the mailing lists are active.
>>>>
>>>> As far as Apache goes I think they have fulfilled all requests that were asked of them, the onus is now on PMC to jump start the project.
>>>>
>>>> Let's stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and do what it takes to jumpstart the project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>>>>> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com because we offer commercial support for PredictionIO and use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user but watch for developments on the Apache mailing list here: user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> The prediction.io site is not being maintained during the transition to Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document until we get an Apache site running.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to get everyone on the same page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
>>>>> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
>>>>> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do? Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>
>
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com>.
After a little looking around I can see that we have not decided where to store the git docs repo or alt least I see no mirror on github.
I propose we make docs part of the main repo so we don’t have to create another one. The docs/ sub-firectory contains the old site contents and some things that seem to have been deprecated as well as java and scala docs. I propose we move this to something like docs-history to get it out of the way and create a new docs/ for the pio apache docs.
If that seems ok I can do this. This guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html> says we should have a site at http://predictionio.incubator.apache.org/ Has a Jira been filed for infra to create this? If not I can do this.
On Jul 17, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
Not sure how to subscribe to the Google group from user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org <ma...@predictionio.incubator.apache.org>, I had to sign in to Google to subscribe iirc, maybe the owner can do it? I guess we can just include the GG address as above.
If we had one page describing status and how to sign up to the mailing lists it would be super helpful for users. I thought it was suggesting we not edit the wiki but maybe I heard wrong. Can someone point me to instructions or a closed Jira? I’ve used the CMS but not gitpubsub. Agree with the do-ocracy so I’ll do something if pointed in the right direction.
(BTW read carefully, not pointing at infra. only saying it’s part of the process)
On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Purtell <andrew.purtell@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Because we are incubating, much at issue with respect to Apache policy found with a release will not block it, as long as we promise to fix it for the next one, but it may take a couple of release candidates to get a minimum viable release out. I'd advise in general making the attempt at an Apache branded release right away.
On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Donald Szeto <donald@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> I will take a shot at putting up a site on Apache this week. The effort in trying to restore services that rely on the old domain is not up to speed.
>
> I'd also suggest releasing a quick patch release for this change. I'll help start a new thread on dev@.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Purtell <andrew.purtell@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Some of the initial delay is my responsibility. I waited after the acceptance vote to file tickets to get things moving until I had a good personal sense there would be no problem (at least on the Salesforce side) with transfer of the PIO trademark and also discussed the matter with the IPMC.
>
> I agree, though, now the onus is on Apache PredictionIO to start moving. Unless, like I mentioned in my other email, there is some kind of blocker in your workflow. Even then nothing will resolve if you're not making noise about it.
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Suneel Marthi <smarthi@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>> PRedictionIO is all set up as an Apache project, the reason the website is not up has more to do with new Apache PredictionIO PMC not moving fast and has nothing to do with Apache Infra team, so stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and how slow things are.
>>
>> Apache Pirk project was started < 10 days ago and they have everything up and running including the website - http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/ <http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/> and the mailing lists are active.
>>
>> As far as Apache goes I think they have fulfilled all requests that were asked of them, the onus is now on PMC to jump start the project.
>>
>> Let's stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and do what it takes to jumpstart the project.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Pat Ferrel <pat@occamsmachete.com <ma...@occamsmachete.com>> wrote:
>> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com <http://actionml.com/> because we offer commercial support for PredictionIO and use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user> but watch for developments on the Apache mailing list here: user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org <ma...@predictionio.incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> The prediction.io <http://prediction.io/> site is not being maintained during the transition to Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document until we get an Apache site running.
>>
>> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to get everyone on the same page.
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>>
>> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org <ma...@predictionio.incubator.apache.org> ?
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eugene.rnd@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
>> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
>> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do? Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com>.
Not sure how to subscribe to the Google group from user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org, I had to sign in to Google to subscribe iirc, maybe the owner can do it? I guess we can just include the GG address as above.
If we had one page describing status and how to sign up to the mailing lists it would be super helpful for users. I thought it was suggesting we not edit the wiki but maybe I heard wrong. Can someone point me to instructions or a closed Jira? I’ve used the CMS but not gitpubsub. Agree with the do-ocracy so I’ll do something if pointed in the right direction.
(BTW read carefully, not pointing at infra. only saying it’s part of the process)
On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
Because we are incubating, much at issue with respect to Apache policy found with a release will not block it, as long as we promise to fix it for the next one, but it may take a couple of release candidates to get a minimum viable release out. I'd advise in general making the attempt at an Apache branded release right away.
On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Donald Szeto <donald@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> I will take a shot at putting up a site on Apache this week. The effort in trying to restore services that rely on the old domain is not up to speed.
>
> I'd also suggest releasing a quick patch release for this change. I'll help start a new thread on dev@.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Purtell <andrew.purtell@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Some of the initial delay is my responsibility. I waited after the acceptance vote to file tickets to get things moving until I had a good personal sense there would be no problem (at least on the Salesforce side) with transfer of the PIO trademark and also discussed the matter with the IPMC.
>
> I agree, though, now the onus is on Apache PredictionIO to start moving. Unless, like I mentioned in my other email, there is some kind of blocker in your workflow. Even then nothing will resolve if you're not making noise about it.
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Suneel Marthi <smarthi@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>> PRedictionIO is all set up as an Apache project, the reason the website is not up has more to do with new Apache PredictionIO PMC not moving fast and has nothing to do with Apache Infra team, so stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and how slow things are.
>>
>> Apache Pirk project was started < 10 days ago and they have everything up and running including the website - http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/ <http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/> and the mailing lists are active.
>>
>> As far as Apache goes I think they have fulfilled all requests that were asked of them, the onus is now on PMC to jump start the project.
>>
>> Let's stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and do what it takes to jumpstart the project.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Pat Ferrel <pat@occamsmachete.com <ma...@occamsmachete.com>> wrote:
>> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com <http://actionml.com/> because we offer commercial support for PredictionIO and use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user> but watch for developments on the Apache mailing list here: user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org <ma...@predictionio.incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> The prediction.io <http://prediction.io/> site is not being maintained during the transition to Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document until we get an Apache site running.
>>
>> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to get everyone on the same page.
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>>
>> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org <ma...@predictionio.incubator.apache.org> ?
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eugene.rnd@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
>> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
>> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do? Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>.
Because we are incubating, much at issue with respect to Apache policy found with a release will not block it, as long as we promise to fix it for the next one, but it may take a couple of release candidates to get a minimum viable release out. I'd advise in general making the attempt at an Apache branded release right away.
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I will take a shot at putting up a site on Apache this week. The effort in trying to restore services that rely on the old domain is not up to speed.
>
> I'd also suggest releasing a quick patch release for this change. I'll help start a new thread on dev@.
>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Some of the initial delay is my responsibility. I waited after the acceptance vote to file tickets to get things moving until I had a good personal sense there would be no problem (at least on the Salesforce side) with transfer of the PIO trademark and also discussed the matter with the IPMC.
>>
>> I agree, though, now the onus is on Apache PredictionIO to start moving. Unless, like I mentioned in my other email, there is some kind of blocker in your workflow. Even then nothing will resolve if you're not making noise about it.
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> PRedictionIO is all set up as an Apache project, the reason the website is not up has more to do with new Apache PredictionIO PMC not moving fast and has nothing to do with Apache Infra team, so stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and how slow things are.
>>>
>>> Apache Pirk project was started < 10 days ago and they have everything up and running including the website - http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/ and the mailing lists are active.
>>>
>>> As far as Apache goes I think they have fulfilled all requests that were asked of them, the onus is now on PMC to jump start the project.
>>>
>>> Let's stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and do what it takes to jumpstart the project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>>>> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com because we offer commercial support for PredictionIO and use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user but watch for developments on the Apache mailing list here: user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> The prediction.io site is not being maintained during the transition to Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document until we get an Apache site running.
>>>>
>>>> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to get everyone on the same page.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>>>>
>>>> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
>>>> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
>>>> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do? Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>.
I will take a shot at putting up a site on Apache this week. The effort in
trying to restore services that rely on the old domain is not up to speed.
I'd also suggest releasing a quick patch release for this change. I'll help
start a new thread on dev@.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Some of the initial delay is my responsibility. I waited after the
> acceptance vote to file tickets to get things moving until I had a good
> personal sense there would be no problem (at least on the Salesforce side)
> with transfer of the PIO trademark and also discussed the matter with the
> IPMC.
>
> I agree, though, now the onus is on Apache PredictionIO to start moving.
> Unless, like I mentioned in my other email, there is some kind of blocker
> in your workflow. Even then nothing will resolve if you're not making noise
> about it.
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> PRedictionIO is all set up as an Apache project, the reason the website is
> not up has more to do with new Apache PredictionIO PMC not moving fast and
> has nothing to do with Apache Infra team, so stop pointing fingers at
> Apache Infra and how slow things are.
>
> Apache Pirk project was started < 10 days ago and they have everything up
> and running including the website - http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/
> and the mailing lists are active.
>
> As far as Apache goes I think they have fulfilled all requests that were
> asked of them, the onus is now on PMC to jump start the project.
>
> Let's stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and do what it takes to
> jumpstart the project.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com>
> wrote:
>
>> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com <http://actionml.com> because we offer
>> commercial support for PredictionIO and use
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user but watch for
>> developments on the Apache mailing list here:
>> user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
>>
>> The prediction.io site is not being maintained during the transition to
>> Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum
>> will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document
>> until we get an Apache site running.
>>
>> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no
>> question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF
>> infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to
>> get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to
>> get everyone on the same page.
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to
>> support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial
>> installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>>
>> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to
>> user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org ?
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work
>> (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo
>> redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
>> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues
>> because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme
>> explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
>> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided
>> to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do?
>> Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>.
Some of the initial delay is my responsibility. I waited after the acceptance vote to file tickets to get things moving until I had a good personal sense there would be no problem (at least on the Salesforce side) with transfer of the PIO trademark and also discussed the matter with the IPMC.
I agree, though, now the onus is on Apache PredictionIO to start moving. Unless, like I mentioned in my other email, there is some kind of blocker in your workflow. Even then nothing will resolve if you're not making noise about it.
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> PRedictionIO is all set up as an Apache project, the reason the website is not up has more to do with new Apache PredictionIO PMC not moving fast and has nothing to do with Apache Infra team, so stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and how slow things are.
>
> Apache Pirk project was started < 10 days ago and they have everything up and running including the website - http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/ and the mailing lists are active.
>
> As far as Apache goes I think they have fulfilled all requests that were asked of them, the onus is now on PMC to jump start the project.
>
> Let's stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and do what it takes to jumpstart the project.
>
>
>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com because we offer commercial support for PredictionIO and use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user but watch for developments on the Apache mailing list here: user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
>>
>> The prediction.io site is not being maintained during the transition to Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document until we get an Apache site running.
>>
>> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to get everyone on the same page.
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>>
>> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org ?
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
>> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what is going on and when it will be fixed.
>> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do? Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>>
>>
>
Re: Services are completely down
Posted by Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>.
PRedictionIO is all set up as an Apache project, the reason the website is
not up has more to do with new Apache PredictionIO PMC not moving fast and
has nothing to do with Apache Infra team, so stop pointing fingers at
Apache Infra and how slow things are.
Apache Pirk project was started < 10 days ago and they have everything up
and running including the website - http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/ and
the mailing lists are active.
As far as Apache goes I think they have fulfilled all requests that were
asked of them, the onus is now on PMC to jump start the project.
Let's stop pointing fingers at Apache Infra and do what it takes to
jumpstart the project.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
> TLDR; rely on ActionML.com <http://actionml.com> because we offer
> commercial support for PredictionIO and use
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/actionml-user but watch for
> developments on the Apache mailing list here:
> user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
>
> The prediction.io site is not being maintained during the transition to
> Apache and the Apache site is not functional yet. This Google Groups forum
> will be retired in favor of an Apache mailing list that we can’t document
> until we get an Apache site running.
>
> As to a schedule, the code is already donated to the ASF so there is no
> question that it is an ASF project. But it takes time for the ASF
> infrastructure people to set up site, mailing lists, etc., and more time to
> get things moved over. Also consider that it’s vacation season so hard to
> get everyone on the same page.
>
> Sorry for the confusion but rest assured that ASF, and ActionML plan to
> support PIO in the long term and we (ActionML) are doing commercial
> installations and customizations constantly during this period.
>
> BTW can someone document how to subscribe to
> user@predictionio.incubator.apache.org ?
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Евгений Шувалов <eu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ATM install script doesn't work, template building\training doesn't work
> (ssl problem?), some people are pointing to ActionML, main github repo
> redirects to apache-incubator, what is going on?
> It's clearly to me and others that there are some migration issues because
> of Salesforce, but there should be some roadmap or readme explaining what
> is going on and when it will be fixed.
> I tried PredictionIO couple of months ago and it was fine, so we decided
> to choose it for our needs. But now it does not work, what should we do?
> Search another product? Or wait? Please explain
>
>
>