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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> on 2005/11/15 20:10:56 UTC
Volunteers Needed
There are a lot of new intrastructure changes going on. One major
development is the advent of Solaris "zones." The Struts project is
already making use of these zones and I think we should too. I am not
up to speed on everything but I am working on it. The problem ... not
enough time in the day.
We need a few volunteers who are willing to work on upgrading the
website build procedure. Right now our automated procedure builds but
it doesn't deploy. I'd also like to see if we could deploy the
example apps on one of the new zones. Finally, it might be nice to
see if we could build the website using Maven.
I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
I am willing to put in some time on this but its a massive job and
things are very busy for me lately. If there are one or two people
who want to help I am willing to do my part. It would be great if
some of the Struts team could pitch in since they just did this
excercise themselves but I don't want to volunteer them.
You don't need to be a committer to help. You just need plenty of spare time.
sean
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
> I think it's committers and invited guests. As for reposting messages from
> there to here, it'd probably be best to check first with the authors of
> those messages, or at least with the list, but I doubt there would be a
> problem.
Thanks for clearing that up. I'll just send the relevant messages
directly to the Tobago guys instead of posting here. They are part of
our incubator and they will be committers soon if they aren't already
so that should be fine.
> Martin Cooper
sean
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
Sorry, I just saw the bottom part of this. See comments below.
On 11/15/05, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bernd,
>
> I don't know much about Maven. I am reading up on it right now. So
> far from what I have read I agree with you that the site is probably
> last. There are some people on this list who are trying to work on a
> Maven script for MyFaces so we should probably check in with them and
> see where they are.
>
> Forrest is kind of annoying. In the end I bet we end up having to
> redo most of the website anyways. I'm not talking about the
> autogenerated stuff (javadocs, etc.) Obviously maven takes care of
> those. But the component documentation, news, etc. will have to be
> ported over.
>
> There is a site-dev mailing list that covers all things infrastructure
> (site-dev@apache.org). Its not available in the archives
Um, no. The site-dev@ list is for discussion of of an ASF-wide site build
and staging server. The infrastructure@ list is the place for all things
infrastructure.
@Martin Cooper: Is the site-dev list restricted to committers? Is it
> ok for me to repost a few key threads to this list so volunteers can
> get up to speed?
>
I think it's committers and invited guests. As for reposting messages from
there to here, it'd probably be best to check first with the authors of
those messages, or at least with the list, but I doubt there would be a
problem.
--
Martin Cooper
Sean
>
> On 11/15/05, Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com> wrote:
> > Sean,
> >
> > I'm not a forrest expert, but the maven format looks simpler.
> > I will ask Arvid for the differences and for a possible migration path.
> >
> > Is the documentation for the tags in the forrest trunk generated?
> >
> > The url for the xdocs is wrong:
> > svn co https://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/myfaces/forrest/trunk
> > should be
> > svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/forrest/trunk
> >
> > Why you want to mavenize the website first? I think this should be the
> > last part. In tobago we start from ant to the "maven task for ant" and
> > finaly maven.
> > Maven is not a publishing system like forrest, but it makes many things
> > simpler for a developer.
> >
> > The Tobago website wasn't "mavenized" tobago was "mavenized".
> > We use maven because it has dependency management is idea aware
> > a defined lifecyle... see
> > http://maven.apache.org/benefits-of-using-maven.html
> >
> > Can you describe the Solaris zones or where I find information?
> >
> >
> > Bernd
> >
> >
> > Sean Schofield schrieb:
> > > Bernd,
> > >
> > > I actually saw the Tobago site earlier this morning and noticed it was
> > > "mavenized." So are you willing to help with the site conversion? Do
> > > you know if our existing xdocs for forrest will work or do we need to
> > > start over?
> > >
> > > sean
> > >
> > > On 11/15/05, Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hello Sean,
> > >>
> > >>tobago has been converted to maven2.
> > >>I think maven provide a solution for many common problems
> > >>(deploy site..deployment, release management).
> > >>
> > >>We would like to share our experiences with maven.
> > >>
> > >>We can use myfaces/tobago for a starting point for a maven2
> > >>migration.
> > >>
> > >>Please look at the project page:
> > >>
> > >>http://tobago.atanion.net
> > >>
> > >>Bernd
> > >>
> > >>Sean Schofield schrieb:
> > >>
> > >>>There are a lot of new intrastructure changes going on. One major
> > >>>development is the advent of Solaris "zones." The Struts project is
> > >>>already making use of these zones and I think we should too. I am not
> > >>>up to speed on everything but I am working on it. The problem ... not
> > >>>enough time in the day.
> > >>>
> > >>>We need a few volunteers who are willing to work on upgrading the
> > >>>website build procedure. Right now our automated procedure builds but
> > >>>it doesn't deploy. I'd also like to see if we could deploy the
> > >>>example apps on one of the new zones. Finally, it might be nice to
> > >>>see if we could build the website using Maven.
> > >>>
> > >>>I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
> > >>>give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
> > >>>Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
> > >>>Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
> > >>>
> > >>>I am willing to put in some time on this but its a massive job and
> > >>>things are very busy for me lately. If there are one or two people
> > >>>who want to help I am willing to do my part. It would be great if
> > >>>some of the Struts team could pitch in since they just did this
> > >>>excercise themselves but I don't want to volunteer them.
> > >>>
> > >>>You don't need to be a committer to help. You just need plenty of
> spare time.
> > >>>
> > >>>sean
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
> > >>Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
> > >>phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
> > Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
> > phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
> >
>
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
Bernd,
I don't know much about Maven. I am reading up on it right now. So
far from what I have read I agree with you that the site is probably
last. There are some people on this list who are trying to work on a
Maven script for MyFaces so we should probably check in with them and
see where they are.
Forrest is kind of annoying. In the end I bet we end up having to
redo most of the website anyways. I'm not talking about the
autogenerated stuff (javadocs, etc.) Obviously maven takes care of
those. But the component documentation, news, etc. will have to be
ported over.
There is a site-dev mailing list that covers all things infrastructure
(site-dev@apache.org). Its not available in the archives
@Martin Cooper: Is the site-dev list restricted to committers? Is it
ok for me to repost a few key threads to this list so volunteers can
get up to speed?
Sean
On 11/15/05, Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com> wrote:
> Sean,
>
> I'm not a forrest expert, but the maven format looks simpler.
> I will ask Arvid for the differences and for a possible migration path.
>
> Is the documentation for the tags in the forrest trunk generated?
>
> The url for the xdocs is wrong:
> svn co https://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/myfaces/forrest/trunk
> should be
> svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/forrest/trunk
>
> Why you want to mavenize the website first? I think this should be the
> last part. In tobago we start from ant to the "maven task for ant" and
> finaly maven.
> Maven is not a publishing system like forrest, but it makes many things
> simpler for a developer.
>
> The Tobago website wasn't "mavenized" tobago was "mavenized".
> We use maven because it has dependency management is idea aware
> a defined lifecyle... see
> http://maven.apache.org/benefits-of-using-maven.html
>
> Can you describe the Solaris zones or where I find information?
>
>
> Bernd
>
>
> Sean Schofield schrieb:
> > Bernd,
> >
> > I actually saw the Tobago site earlier this morning and noticed it was
> > "mavenized." So are you willing to help with the site conversion? Do
> > you know if our existing xdocs for forrest will work or do we need to
> > start over?
> >
> > sean
> >
> > On 11/15/05, Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hello Sean,
> >>
> >>tobago has been converted to maven2.
> >>I think maven provide a solution for many common problems
> >>(deploy site..deployment, release management).
> >>
> >>We would like to share our experiences with maven.
> >>
> >>We can use myfaces/tobago for a starting point for a maven2
> >>migration.
> >>
> >>Please look at the project page:
> >>
> >>http://tobago.atanion.net
> >>
> >>Bernd
> >>
> >>Sean Schofield schrieb:
> >>
> >>>There are a lot of new intrastructure changes going on. One major
> >>>development is the advent of Solaris "zones." The Struts project is
> >>>already making use of these zones and I think we should too. I am not
> >>>up to speed on everything but I am working on it. The problem ... not
> >>>enough time in the day.
> >>>
> >>>We need a few volunteers who are willing to work on upgrading the
> >>>website build procedure. Right now our automated procedure builds but
> >>>it doesn't deploy. I'd also like to see if we could deploy the
> >>>example apps on one of the new zones. Finally, it might be nice to
> >>>see if we could build the website using Maven.
> >>>
> >>>I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
> >>>give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
> >>>Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
> >>>Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
> >>>
> >>>I am willing to put in some time on this but its a massive job and
> >>>things are very busy for me lately. If there are one or two people
> >>>who want to help I am willing to do my part. It would be great if
> >>>some of the Struts team could pitch in since they just did this
> >>>excercise themselves but I don't want to volunteer them.
> >>>
> >>>You don't need to be a committer to help. You just need plenty of spare time.
> >>>
> >>>sean
> >>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
> >>Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
> >>phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
> Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
> phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
>
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com>.
Sean,
I'm not a forrest expert, but the maven format looks simpler.
I will ask Arvid for the differences and for a possible migration path.
Is the documentation for the tags in the forrest trunk generated?
The url for the xdocs is wrong:
svn co https://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/myfaces/forrest/trunk
should be
svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/forrest/trunk
Why you want to mavenize the website first? I think this should be the
last part. In tobago we start from ant to the "maven task for ant" and
finaly maven.
Maven is not a publishing system like forrest, but it makes many things
simpler for a developer.
The Tobago website wasn't "mavenized" tobago was "mavenized".
We use maven because it has dependency management is idea aware
a defined lifecyle... see
http://maven.apache.org/benefits-of-using-maven.html
Can you describe the Solaris zones or where I find information?
Bernd
Sean Schofield schrieb:
> Bernd,
>
> I actually saw the Tobago site earlier this morning and noticed it was
> "mavenized." So are you willing to help with the site conversion? Do
> you know if our existing xdocs for forrest will work or do we need to
> start over?
>
> sean
>
> On 11/15/05, Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com> wrote:
>
>>Hello Sean,
>>
>>tobago has been converted to maven2.
>>I think maven provide a solution for many common problems
>>(deploy site..deployment, release management).
>>
>>We would like to share our experiences with maven.
>>
>>We can use myfaces/tobago for a starting point for a maven2
>>migration.
>>
>>Please look at the project page:
>>
>>http://tobago.atanion.net
>>
>>Bernd
>>
>>Sean Schofield schrieb:
>>
>>>There are a lot of new intrastructure changes going on. One major
>>>development is the advent of Solaris "zones." The Struts project is
>>>already making use of these zones and I think we should too. I am not
>>>up to speed on everything but I am working on it. The problem ... not
>>>enough time in the day.
>>>
>>>We need a few volunteers who are willing to work on upgrading the
>>>website build procedure. Right now our automated procedure builds but
>>>it doesn't deploy. I'd also like to see if we could deploy the
>>>example apps on one of the new zones. Finally, it might be nice to
>>>see if we could build the website using Maven.
>>>
>>>I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
>>>give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
>>>Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
>>>Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
>>>
>>>I am willing to put in some time on this but its a massive job and
>>>things are very busy for me lately. If there are one or two people
>>>who want to help I am willing to do my part. It would be great if
>>>some of the Struts team could pitch in since they just did this
>>>excercise themselves but I don't want to volunteer them.
>>>
>>>You don't need to be a committer to help. You just need plenty of spare time.
>>>
>>>sean
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
>>Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
>>phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
>>
>
>
--
Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
Bernd,
I actually saw the Tobago site earlier this morning and noticed it was
"mavenized." So are you willing to help with the site conversion? Do
you know if our existing xdocs for forrest will work or do we need to
start over?
sean
On 11/15/05, Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com> wrote:
> Hello Sean,
>
> tobago has been converted to maven2.
> I think maven provide a solution for many common problems
> (deploy site..deployment, release management).
>
> We would like to share our experiences with maven.
>
> We can use myfaces/tobago for a starting point for a maven2
> migration.
>
> Please look at the project page:
>
> http://tobago.atanion.net
>
> Bernd
>
> Sean Schofield schrieb:
> > There are a lot of new intrastructure changes going on. One major
> > development is the advent of Solaris "zones." The Struts project is
> > already making use of these zones and I think we should too. I am not
> > up to speed on everything but I am working on it. The problem ... not
> > enough time in the day.
> >
> > We need a few volunteers who are willing to work on upgrading the
> > website build procedure. Right now our automated procedure builds but
> > it doesn't deploy. I'd also like to see if we could deploy the
> > example apps on one of the new zones. Finally, it might be nice to
> > see if we could build the website using Maven.
> >
> > I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
> > give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
> > Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
> > Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
> >
> > I am willing to put in some time on this but its a massive job and
> > things are very busy for me lately. If there are one or two people
> > who want to help I am willing to do my part. It would be great if
> > some of the Struts team could pitch in since they just did this
> > excercise themselves but I don't want to volunteer them.
> >
> > You don't need to be a committer to help. You just need plenty of spare time.
> >
> > sean
> >
>
> --
> Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
> Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
> phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
>
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com>.
Hello Sean,
tobago has been converted to maven2.
I think maven provide a solution for many common problems
(deploy site..deployment, release management).
We would like to share our experiences with maven.
We can use myfaces/tobago for a starting point for a maven2
migration.
Please look at the project page:
http://tobago.atanion.net
Bernd
Sean Schofield schrieb:
> There are a lot of new intrastructure changes going on. One major
> development is the advent of Solaris "zones." The Struts project is
> already making use of these zones and I think we should too. I am not
> up to speed on everything but I am working on it. The problem ... not
> enough time in the day.
>
> We need a few volunteers who are willing to work on upgrading the
> website build procedure. Right now our automated procedure builds but
> it doesn't deploy. I'd also like to see if we could deploy the
> example apps on one of the new zones. Finally, it might be nice to
> see if we could build the website using Maven.
>
> I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
> give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
> Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
> Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
>
> I am willing to put in some time on this but its a massive job and
> things are very busy for me lately. If there are one or two people
> who want to help I am willing to do my part. It would be great if
> some of the Struts team could pitch in since they just did this
> excercise themselves but I don't want to volunteer them.
>
> You don't need to be a committer to help. You just need plenty of spare time.
>
> sean
>
--
Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Bernd Bohmann <be...@atanion.com>.
you must not change the directory structure, but if you want all
advantages of maven you should. In tobago we had a directory structure
like myfaces. But during the move to maven we have realised that a
complete change of the directory structure is necessary.
please look at the svn of tobago and look at the changlog report in
Project Reports. Most of the changes are maven driven.
Sean Schofield schrieb:
>>Colin already mentioned this: It's likely that to get the full
>>benefits of Maven, you will have to do some restructuring. Do you see
>>that being a problem?
>
>
> Depends on what kind of "restructuring." I have just finished reading
> up on the suggested directory structure. IMO its kind of lame. I
> prefer our current structure and I understand its possible to keep
> your directory structure.
>
> I'm open to changes but I can't say I am looking forward to
> restructuring the directories just to satisfy Maven.
>
>
>>Wendy
>
>
> sean
>
--
Dipl.-Ing. Bernd Bohmann - Atanion GmbH - Software Development
Bismarckstr. 13, 26122 Oldenburg, http://www.atanion.com
phone: +49 441 4082312, mobile: +49 173 8839471, fax: +49 441 4082333
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Arvid Hülsebus <ar...@atanion.com>.
Hello!
No, Maven 2 doesn't require JDK 1.5.
I played around with a small XSLT to convert the MyFaces/Forrest XDoc
documents into Maven XDoc documents. The DTD
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk/xdoc/src/dtd/maven-xdoc.dtd
is slightly different. You can the attached files into
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/forrest/trunk/content/ plus
the 'dtd' and 'entity' from
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/main/webapp/resources/schema/
into a local temporary 'resource' directory and run ant. See the
xmlcatalog element in the build file. (I failed to either disable DTD
checking or attach an archive with the necessary files)
This will create a 'converted' directory with the new files. For testing
purposes I just copied these files into
http://atanion.net/repos/asf/tobago/trunk/tobago-core/src/site/xdoc and run
mvn site
inside the tobago-core directory. Currently, generating the site inside
the Tobago root directory doesn't work due to
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1455
The generated files will end up inside the 'target/site' directory. Far
from perfect but a starting point...
Regards,
Arvid
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
> I'm not going to try to convince you. :) But I've already worked on
> one Maven build without changing the project structure. It's not
> something I'm going volunteer to do again.
Well with SVN all things are possible. Once I understand the benefits
of Maven2 I might feel more inclined to reorganize things (yet again.)
Maybe for now we can set up some svn:externals that simulate the
desired structure. That could be a handy way for several of us to
work on things at the same time.
> Take a look at Tobago's build, and see what you think. Better yet,
> try it out, assuming you've installed Maven 2 already. (I had to
> switch to JDK 1.5 to build it, after that 'mvn install' did its thing
> and it's now in my local repository ready to go.) I'm still playing
> with the example app. Wow!
Will do. JDK 1.5 is for Tobago right? Maven2 doesn't require 1.5 does it?
> Wendy
sean
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/15/05, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I figured since the Struts Maven effort was relatively recent that it
> may have been a conscious decision related to the technology. It
> sounds like the main volunteers (you and Wendy) just didn't have the
> familiarity with it.
It didn't exist. Maven 2 was just released a month ago.
> Depends on what kind of "restructuring." I have just finished reading
> up on the suggested directory structure. IMO its kind of lame. I
> prefer our current structure and I understand its possible to keep
> your directory structure.
>
> I'm open to changes but I can't say I am looking forward to
> restructuring the directories just to satisfy Maven.
I'm not going to try to convince you. :) But I've already worked on
one Maven build without changing the project structure. It's not
something I'm going volunteer to do again.
Take a look at Tobago's build, and see what you think. Better yet,
try it out, assuming you've installed Maven 2 already. (I had to
switch to JDK 1.5 to build it, after that 'mvn install' did its thing
and it's now in my local repository ready to go.) I'm still playing
with the example app. Wow!
--
Wendy
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
> Colin already mentioned this: It's likely that to get the full
> benefits of Maven, you will have to do some restructuring. Do you see
> that being a problem?
Depends on what kind of "restructuring." I have just finished reading
up on the suggested directory structure. IMO its kind of lame. I
prefer our current structure and I understand its possible to keep
your directory structure.
I'm open to changes but I can't say I am looking forward to
restructuring the directories just to satisfy Maven.
> Wendy
sean
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/15/05, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was hoping you would be able to help! Can I ask why Struts doesn't
> use M2? In other words, are there reasons why we should not be
> considering it?
IMO you should definitely go with Maven 2 for MyFaces.
Struts isn't using it because no one has contributed build files yet.
:) The existing m1 build works, and converting to m2 hasn't been a
priority. I've been working on it here and there... I have a few of
the Struts jars building with m2 (the ones I needed for the m2 Struts
Blank archetype that's in the sandbox) and the m2 build for Shale is
in progress. (I think there is a conversion tool in the works, I'm
hoping that will take most of the pain out of the process.)
Colin already mentioned this: It's likely that to get the full
benefits of Maven, you will have to do some restructuring. Do you see
that being a problem?
--
Wendy
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
James,
I figured since the Struts Maven effort was relatively recent that it
may have been a conscious decision related to the technology. It
sounds like the main volunteers (you and Wendy) just didn't have the
familiarity with it.
Since most of us are not familiar with Maven at all, there doesn't
seem to be any harm in jumping right into Maven2.
Looking forward to your help on this when this gets rolling and you
get some time.
sean
On 11/15/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
> Struts is still on Maven 1 because neither Wendy nor myself have
> hours in the day to just work on a Maven 2 configuration, and no-one
> else has volunteered the time or submitted a patch.
>
> Part of the perks of being involved in an open source project is that
> you get to work on whatever you want, when you want, and most of the
> time, what you do is appreciated by all. How many jobs have you had
> like that?
>
> It takes volunteers like you and I to make this happen. There is no
> technical reasons not to use Maven 2. In fact, there are many
> benefits for us to move to Maven 2, but it just takes time.
>
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I am spending about 30% of my free
> time getting up to speed with Maven 2 for a side project I'm working
> on. After that, look for Maven 2 support for both MyFaces and Struts
> in the near future....unless someone beats me to it.
>
>
> --
> James Mitchell
> 678.910.8017
> Skpe: jmitchtx
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Sean Schofield wrote:
>
> > Wendy,
> >
> > I was hoping you would be able to help! Can I ask why Struts doesn't
> > use M2? In other words, are there reasons why we should not be
> > considering it?
> >
> > sean
> >
> > On 11/15/05, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/15/05, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
> >>> give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven
> >>> (or
> >>> Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar
> >>> with
> >>> Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
> >>
> >> Spare time is in short supply, but I'm willing to help where I can.
> >> Struts has not made it to Maven 2 yet, so I may not be all that
> >> useful. :)
> >>
> >> FWIW, Maven supports multiple input formats, not just the XDoc you
> >> may
> >> be familiar with from m1 and Jakarta before that. The "preferred"
> >> format (the one the Maven team uses) is APT (Almost Plain Text). I
> >> know those two work.
> >>
> >> Other formats are listed under the Doxia section:
> >> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-m2-
> >> development.html
> >>
> >> (DocBook as *output* looks interesting-- I've been trying to get a
> >> PDF
> >> version of the Struts site for months now with m1, and keep running
> >> into problems.)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wendy
> >>
>
>
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com>.
Struts is still on Maven 1 because neither Wendy nor myself have
hours in the day to just work on a Maven 2 configuration, and no-one
else has volunteered the time or submitted a patch.
Part of the perks of being involved in an open source project is that
you get to work on whatever you want, when you want, and most of the
time, what you do is appreciated by all. How many jobs have you had
like that?
It takes volunteers like you and I to make this happen. There is no
technical reasons not to use Maven 2. In fact, there are many
benefits for us to move to Maven 2, but it just takes time.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I am spending about 30% of my free
time getting up to speed with Maven 2 for a side project I'm working
on. After that, look for Maven 2 support for both MyFaces and Struts
in the near future....unless someone beats me to it.
--
James Mitchell
678.910.8017
Skpe: jmitchtx
On Nov 15, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Sean Schofield wrote:
> Wendy,
>
> I was hoping you would be able to help! Can I ask why Struts doesn't
> use M2? In other words, are there reasons why we should not be
> considering it?
>
> sean
>
> On 11/15/05, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/15/05, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
>>> give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven
>>> (or
>>> Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar
>>> with
>>> Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
>>
>> Spare time is in short supply, but I'm willing to help where I can.
>> Struts has not made it to Maven 2 yet, so I may not be all that
>> useful. :)
>>
>> FWIW, Maven supports multiple input formats, not just the XDoc you
>> may
>> be familiar with from m1 and Jakarta before that. The "preferred"
>> format (the one the Maven team uses) is APT (Almost Plain Text). I
>> know those two work.
>>
>> Other formats are listed under the Doxia section:
>> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-m2-
>> development.html
>>
>> (DocBook as *output* looks interesting-- I've been trying to get a
>> PDF
>> version of the Struts site for months now with m1, and keep running
>> into problems.)
>>
>> --
>> Wendy
>>
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
Wendy,
I was hoping you would be able to help! Can I ask why Struts doesn't
use M2? In other words, are there reasons why we should not be
considering it?
sean
On 11/15/05, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/15/05, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
> > give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
> > Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
> > Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
>
> Spare time is in short supply, but I'm willing to help where I can.
> Struts has not made it to Maven 2 yet, so I may not be all that
> useful. :)
>
> FWIW, Maven supports multiple input formats, not just the XDoc you may
> be familiar with from m1 and Jakarta before that. The "preferred"
> format (the one the Maven team uses) is APT (Almost Plain Text). I
> know those two work.
>
> Other formats are listed under the Doxia section:
> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-m2-development.html
>
> (DocBook as *output* looks interesting-- I've been trying to get a PDF
> version of the Struts site for months now with m1, and keep running
> into problems.)
>
> --
> Wendy
>
Re: Volunteers Needed
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/15/05, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not at all familiar with Maven but I've seen enough to want to
> give it a try. I also think that building the website with Maven (or
> Maven2) would be a good opportunity for everyone to get familiar with
> Maven before deciding on migrating the rest of the build to Maven.
Spare time is in short supply, but I'm willing to help where I can.
Struts has not made it to Maven 2 yet, so I may not be all that
useful. :)
FWIW, Maven supports multiple input formats, not just the XDoc you may
be familiar with from m1 and Jakarta before that. The "preferred"
format (the one the Maven team uses) is APT (Almost Plain Text). I
know those two work.
Other formats are listed under the Doxia section:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-m2-development.html
(DocBook as *output* looks interesting-- I've been trying to get a PDF
version of the Struts site for months now with m1, and keep running
into problems.)
--
Wendy