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Re: apachehelp.org

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

> I need some help for the site www.apachehelp.org I need some people to
> please write some things on apache please get back to me

Well, I responded once, but I'll respond again. What are you trying to
do here? Is this a commercial venture for which you are looking for
authors? In what way is this different from the Apache documentation
itself? Will this be an interactive Q/A site, or are you just looking
for howto articles? Can you elaborate in any way on what you are trying
to accomplish?

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Re: apachehelp.org How-To Documents

Posted by Kyle Hamilton <wi...@sbcglobal.net>.
yea I know :-) Im basicly just trying to get things roleing to get people to
write docs for total newbes
-Kyle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Woolley" <jw...@virginia.edu>
To: "Kyle Hamilton" <wi...@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <do...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: apachehelp.org How-To Documents


> On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
>
> > that was what I was thinking about doing but right now im just trying to
> > get people to help me write them and such
>
> Honestly, the easiest way to get people around here to help with something
> is usually to just start doing it.  People are more likely to jump in and
> help on an existing effort than on something brand new.
>
> I don't mean to say "don't bother asking, just go write them yourself"...
> rather, I'm saying that if nobody happens to step up to the plate right
> away, don't let that discourage you, and don't think that means we aren't
> noticing your efforts.  I look forward to seeing what you come up with!
> :)
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
>
>
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Re: apachehelp.org How-To Documents

Posted by Cliff Woolley <jw...@virginia.edu>.
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

> that was what I was thinking about doing but right now im just trying to
> get people to help me write them and such

Honestly, the easiest way to get people around here to help with something
is usually to just start doing it.  People are more likely to jump in and
help on an existing effort than on something brand new.

I don't mean to say "don't bother asking, just go write them yourself"...
rather, I'm saying that if nobody happens to step up to the plate right
away, don't let that discourage you, and don't think that means we aren't
noticing your efforts.  I look forward to seeing what you come up with!
:)

Thanks,
Cliff



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Re: apachehelp.org How-To Documents

Posted by Kyle Hamilton <wi...@sbcglobal.net>.
that was what I was thinking about doing but right now im just trying to get
people to help me write them and such
-Kyle
www.kylehamilton.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Woolley" <jw...@virginia.edu>
To: <do...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: apachehelp.org How-To Documents


> On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
>
> > If anyone is intrested in helping me start writeing all the Apache
> > Documents for newbes please email me or reply to this email so far im
> > takeing all the data form http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/ and
> > http://httpd.apache.org/howto/ if you think yo can add anything please
> > tell me
>
> I'm not trying to discourage you, but why not submit whatever howtos you
> write to us for inclusion on http://httpd.apache.org/ itself (which you
> yourself could even get commit access to after a certain amount of time)
> rather than moving the howtos to an entirely new site?
>
> --Cliff
>
>
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Re: apachehelp.org How-To Documents

Posted by Cliff Woolley <jw...@virginia.edu>.
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

> If anyone is intrested in helping me start writeing all the Apache
> Documents for newbes please email me or reply to this email so far im
> takeing all the data form http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/ and
> http://httpd.apache.org/howto/ if you think yo can add anything please
> tell me

I'm not trying to discourage you, but why not submit whatever howtos you
write to us for inclusion on http://httpd.apache.org/ itself (which you
yourself could even get commit access to after a certain amount of time)
rather than moving the howtos to an entirely new site?

--Cliff


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Re: apachehelp.org How-To Documents

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

> If anyone is intrested in helping me start writeing all the Apache Documents
> for newbes please email me or reply to this email so far im takeing all the
> data form http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/ and
> http://httpd.apache.org/howto/ if you think yo can add anything please tell
> me

I am absolutely interested in writing how-tos for newbies. That's pretty
much why I created the /howto/ subfolder of the Apache documentation in
the first place. You are welcome to mirror these documents - there's a
howto about mirroring the Apache site available, at
http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html

If you find at some point that you're interested in working with the
documentation team, rather than in parallel to it, please let us know.
We're always glad to have new writers on board.

Thanks

Rich

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apachehelp.org How-To Documents

Posted by Kyle Hamilton <wi...@sbcglobal.net>.
If anyone is intrested in helping me start writeing all the Apache Documents
for newbes please email me or reply to this email so far im takeing all the
data form http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/ and
http://httpd.apache.org/howto/ if you think yo can add anything please tell
me

-Kyle
www.kylehamilton.net
kyle@kylehamilton.net


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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

> Sorry again still sort of new at this
> 1. no this is not a commercial venture this is just something I thought that
> was needed
> 2. This will be differnt because it will be a central place to go for
> infomation were people can just look up a easyer how to then haveing to go
> though a manual or ask a question on the email list
> 3. im just trying to make apache a little bit easyer for the basic user
> thats my whole goal

This is a very good goal. It's the goal that I've had for the last
several years as a member of the documentation effort. We'd be delighted
to have this effort turned towards the official documentation, rather
than a parallel site, if you could see this as a valuable way to spend
your time. There's an ongoing effort to write howto-type documents,
which go in the /howto/ folder in the documentation
(http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/ and
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/) and there are already a few
docs in there in that style. We really do intend to gear the
documentation to the basic user - at least, I do - while having it also
cater to the advanced user by providing the gory details when
appropriate.

I don't want at all to disparage your effort. I tend to believe that we
can't have too much documentation. But I would like to respectfully
encourage you to redirect some of your effort towards the official docs,
at least insofar as telling us where and how they fail to meet the
objectives that you have set for your site, so that we can attempt to
rectify those shortcomings.

Thanks.

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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Kyle Hamilton <wi...@sbcglobal.net>.
Sorry again still sort of new at this
1. no this is not a commercial venture this is just something I thought that
was needed
2. This will be differnt because it will be a central place to go for
infomation were people can just look up a easyer how to then haveing to go
though a manual or ask a question on the email list
3. im just trying to make apache a little bit easyer for the basic user
thats my whole goal
-Kyle
www.kylehamilton.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Woolley" <jw...@virginia.edu>
To: "Kyle Hamilton" <wi...@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <do...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: apachehelp.org


> On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
>
> > > > > Well, I responded once, but I'll respond again. What are you
trying to
> > > > > do here? Is this a commercial venture for which you are looking
for
> > > > > authors? In what way is this different from the Apache
documentation
> > > > > itself? Will this be an interactive Q/A site, or are you just
looking
> > > > > for howto articles? Can you elaborate in any way on what you are
trying
> > > > > to accomplish?
>
> > Basicly How To's but if someone writes something related to apache I
would
> > most likely publish it
>
> Thanks, though you still haven't answered the other questions.  Is this a
> commercial venture?  In what way is this different from the Apache
> documentation itself?  What are you trying to accomplish?
>
> Thanks,
> --Cliff
>
>
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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Cliff Woolley <jw...@virginia.edu>.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

> > > > Well, I responded once, but I'll respond again. What are you trying to
> > > > do here? Is this a commercial venture for which you are looking for
> > > > authors? In what way is this different from the Apache documentation
> > > > itself? Will this be an interactive Q/A site, or are you just looking
> > > > for howto articles? Can you elaborate in any way on what you are trying
> > > > to accomplish?

> Basicly How To's but if someone writes something related to apache I would
> most likely publish it

Thanks, though you still haven't answered the other questions.  Is this a
commercial venture?  In what way is this different from the Apache
documentation itself?  What are you trying to accomplish?

Thanks,
--Cliff


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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Kyle Hamilton <wi...@sbcglobal.net>.
Basicly How To's but if someone writes something related to apache I would
most likely publish it
-Kyle
www.kylehamilton.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Bowen" <rb...@rcbowen.com>
To: <do...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: apachehelp.org


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> On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Sorry for not responding last time  mostly How To's and Interactive Q/A
but
> > anything is welcome
>
> Any chance you could answer the rest of my questions also?
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rich Bowen" <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> > To: <do...@httpd.apache.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: apachehelp.org
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > > I need some help for the site www.apachehelp.org I need some people
to
> > > > please write some things on apache please get back to me
> > >
> > > Well, I responded once, but I'll respond again. What are you trying to
> > > do here? Is this a commercial venture for which you are looking for
> > > authors? In what way is this different from the Apache documentation
> > > itself? Will this be an interactive Q/A site, or are you just looking
> > > for howto articles? Can you elaborate in any way on what you are
trying
> > > to accomplish?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
> > > Author - Apache Administrator's Guide
> > > http://www.ApacheAdmin.com/
> > >
> > >
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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

> Sorry for not responding last time  mostly How To's and Interactive Q/A but
> anything is welcome

Any chance you could answer the rest of my questions also?

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Bowen" <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> To: <do...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: apachehelp.org
>
>
> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > I need some help for the site www.apachehelp.org I need some people to
> > > please write some things on apache please get back to me
> >
> > Well, I responded once, but I'll respond again. What are you trying to
> > do here? Is this a commercial venture for which you are looking for
> > authors? In what way is this different from the Apache documentation
> > itself? Will this be an interactive Q/A site, or are you just looking
> > for howto articles? Can you elaborate in any way on what you are trying
> > to accomplish?
> >
> > --
> > Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
> > Author - Apache Administrator's Guide
> > http://www.ApacheAdmin.com/
> >
> >
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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Kyle Hamilton <wi...@sbcglobal.net>.
Sorry for not responding last time  mostly How To's and Interactive Q/A but
anything is welcome
-Kyle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Bowen" <rb...@rcbowen.com>
To: <do...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: apachehelp.org


> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
>
> > I need some help for the site www.apachehelp.org I need some people to
> > please write some things on apache please get back to me
>
> Well, I responded once, but I'll respond again. What are you trying to
> do here? Is this a commercial venture for which you are looking for
> authors? In what way is this different from the Apache documentation
> itself? Will this be an interactive Q/A site, or are you just looking
> for howto articles? Can you elaborate in any way on what you are trying
> to accomplish?
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
> Author - Apache Administrator's Guide
> http://www.ApacheAdmin.com/
>
>
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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Jerry Ford <je...@katzenjammer.us>.
Let he/she who is without sin cast the first flaming e-mail: "without an 
'c' " should be without *a* 'c'  :)

Jan Faerber wrote:

>"douments" - in the second sentence on www.apachehelp.org is written without
>an 'c'!
>"Fourm" - in the second paragraph - > forum
>...and capital letters are not everywhere necessary.
>
>Regards Jan
>  
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Re: apachehelp.org

Posted by Jan Faerber <ja...@chello.at>.


> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Kyle Hamilton wrote:
>
> > I need some help for the site www.apachehelp.org I need some people to
> > please write some things on apache please get back to me
>
> Well, I responded once, but
...> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com


"douments" - in the second sentence on www.apachehelp.org is written without
an 'c'!
"Fourm" - in the second paragraph - > forum
...and capital letters are not everywhere necessary.

Regards Jan


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