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Posted to general@commons.apache.org by "B. W. Fitzpatrick" <fi...@red-bean.com> on 2002/10/25 15:24:40 UTC

Re: Pre-proposal for an HTTP Utilities Component

Justin Erenkrantz <je...@apache.org> writes:

> I dunno, but I really would prefer that we just take things and 
> evolve as we go.  I'm getting awfully tired of dealing with 
> (proposed) bureaucracy.  I'm so far removed from code right now, I 
> want to cry.  I really do favor the 'just enough structure to keep us 
> from falling apart' in such new endeavors.  

I couldn't have said it any better.

-Fitz


Re: Pre-proposal for an HTTP Utilities Component

Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Stephen Colebourne wrote:

> From: "B. W. Fitzpatrick" <fi...@red-bean.com>
> > Justin Erenkrantz <je...@apache.org> writes:
> >
> > > I dunno, but I really would prefer that we just take things and
> > > evolve as we go.  I'm getting awfully tired of dealing with
> > > (proposed) bureaucracy.  I'm so far removed from code right now, I
> > > want to cry.  I really do favor the 'just enough structure to keep us
> > > from falling apart' in such new endeavors.
> >
> > I couldn't have said it any better.
>
> IMO, the discussion about what mailing lists to create etc. is based on an
> assumption that j-c will move into a-c. Thus, since j-c committers already
> know the good and bad parts of one mailing list/shared karma etc. we are
> discussing whether what we currently have in j-c is optimal.

That's a good point. No matter what is decided, if commons-httpclient
moves in here to put it back on a shared mail list would be folly.

Hen


Re: Pre-proposal for an HTTP Utilities Component

Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
From: "B. W. Fitzpatrick" <fi...@red-bean.com>
> Justin Erenkrantz <je...@apache.org> writes:
>
> > I dunno, but I really would prefer that we just take things and
> > evolve as we go.  I'm getting awfully tired of dealing with
> > (proposed) bureaucracy.  I'm so far removed from code right now, I
> > want to cry.  I really do favor the 'just enough structure to keep us
> > from falling apart' in such new endeavors.
>
> I couldn't have said it any better.

IMO, the discussion about what mailing lists to create etc. is based on an
assumption that j-c will move into a-c. Thus, since j-c committers already
know the good and bad parts of one mailing list/shared karma etc. we are
discussing whether what we currently have in j-c is optimal.

If a-c was starting empty, I might agree with the bureaucracy comment, but I
think that if it can't attract j-c it really isn't succeeding.

Stephen


RE: Pre-proposal for an HTTP Utilities Component

Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: fitz@red-bean.com [mailto:fitz@red-bean.com]
> Sent: 25 October 2002 15:25

> Justin Erenkrantz <je...@apache.org> writes:
> 
> > I dunno, but I really would prefer that we just take things and 
> > evolve as we go.  I'm getting awfully tired of dealing with 
> > (proposed) bureaucracy.  I'm so far removed from code right now, I 
> > want to cry.  I really do favor the 'just enough structure to keep us 
> > from falling apart' in such new endeavors.  
> 
> I couldn't have said it any better.

+1

Sander