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Posted to user@hive.apache.org by Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu> on 2008/12/04 18:31:45 UTC
Hive IRC channel?
Hi.
I find IRC to be a very convenient way to communicate with others
interested in an open source project.
Would people be interested in joining ##hive on irc.freenode.net? This
is the IRC network where #hadoop and #hbase lives.
Unfortunately the #hive channel is already occupied (by two inactive
persons).
Of course IRC isn't a substitute for having discussions on a mailing
list, but it is a very good complement.
/Johan
RE: Hive IRC channel?
Posted by Ashish Thusoo <at...@facebook.com>.
I suppose we can give it a shot if it has worked well for hadoop...
Regarding emails, we should try not to have any private conversations and use hive-dev and hive-users to carry out discussions. I think this is mostly true and the few JIRAs that may have suffered from private conversations are very few..
Will start using the irc chat room to alleviate some of Johan's loneliness there :) Lets see how this works..
Ashish
________________________________
From: Prasad Chakka [mailto:prasad@facebook.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:58 AM
To: hive-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: Hive IRC channel?
I think we should use IRC to supplement JIRA discussions. We already do have some email conversations whose conclusions are put on corresponding JIRA. We should do the same for IRC.
________________________________
From: Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>
Reply-To: <hi...@hadoop.apache.org>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:49:21 -0800
To: <hi...@hadoop.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Hive IRC channel?
That is a valid concern, but looking at the Hadoop irc channel it has
worked quite well. It is mostly used for support and general chat about
the project.
Most open source projects have some discussions done offline, via
private email or something like irc. As long as it's clear that any
decision making discussions should be done in the correct channels
(mailinglist/jira) it shouldn't be a problem.
/Johan
Ashish Thusoo wrote:
> There was one small thing about using chat...
>
> The thing is that with JIRA the records of all the decisions, trade offs and discussions are available for people to see later. I am not sure whether we will have the same level of historical trace with chat and this channel may over time cannibalize the JIRA channel in the sense that there may be a tendency for the people to put up the final decision on the JIRA instead of all the discussions...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Ashish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Oskarsson [mailto:johan@oskarsson.nu]
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:02 AM
> To: hive-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hive IRC channel?
>
> Even though it is awfully lonely in that channel I assume nobody will mind if I put it in the wiki?
>
> /Johan
>
> Johan Oskarsson wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I find IRC to be a very convenient way to communicate with others
>> interested in an open source project.
>> Would people be interested in joining ##hive on irc.freenode.net? This
>> is the IRC network where #hadoop and #hbase lives.
>>
>> Unfortunately the #hive channel is already occupied (by two inactive
>> persons).
>> Of course IRC isn't a substitute for having discussions on a mailing
>> list, but it is a very good complement.
>>
>> /Johan
>
Re: Hive IRC channel?
Posted by Prasad Chakka <pr...@facebook.com>.
I think we should use IRC to supplement JIRA discussions. We already do have some email conversations whose conclusions are put on corresponding JIRA. We should do the same for IRC.
________________________________
From: Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>
Reply-To: <hi...@hadoop.apache.org>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:49:21 -0800
To: <hi...@hadoop.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Hive IRC channel?
That is a valid concern, but looking at the Hadoop irc channel it has
worked quite well. It is mostly used for support and general chat about
the project.
Most open source projects have some discussions done offline, via
private email or something like irc. As long as it's clear that any
decision making discussions should be done in the correct channels
(mailinglist/jira) it shouldn't be a problem.
/Johan
Ashish Thusoo wrote:
> There was one small thing about using chat...
>
> The thing is that with JIRA the records of all the decisions, trade offs and discussions are available for people to see later. I am not sure whether we will have the same level of historical trace with chat and this channel may over time cannibalize the JIRA channel in the sense that there may be a tendency for the people to put up the final decision on the JIRA instead of all the discussions...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Ashish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Oskarsson [mailto:johan@oskarsson.nu]
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:02 AM
> To: hive-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hive IRC channel?
>
> Even though it is awfully lonely in that channel I assume nobody will mind if I put it in the wiki?
>
> /Johan
>
> Johan Oskarsson wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I find IRC to be a very convenient way to communicate with others
>> interested in an open source project.
>> Would people be interested in joining ##hive on irc.freenode.net? This
>> is the IRC network where #hadoop and #hbase lives.
>>
>> Unfortunately the #hive channel is already occupied (by two inactive
>> persons).
>> Of course IRC isn't a substitute for having discussions on a mailing
>> list, but it is a very good complement.
>>
>> /Johan
>
Re: Hive IRC channel?
Posted by Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>.
That is a valid concern, but looking at the Hadoop irc channel it has
worked quite well. It is mostly used for support and general chat about
the project.
Most open source projects have some discussions done offline, via
private email or something like irc. As long as it's clear that any
decision making discussions should be done in the correct channels
(mailinglist/jira) it shouldn't be a problem.
/Johan
Ashish Thusoo wrote:
> There was one small thing about using chat...
>
> The thing is that with JIRA the records of all the decisions, trade offs and discussions are available for people to see later. I am not sure whether we will have the same level of historical trace with chat and this channel may over time cannibalize the JIRA channel in the sense that there may be a tendency for the people to put up the final decision on the JIRA instead of all the discussions...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Ashish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Oskarsson [mailto:johan@oskarsson.nu]
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:02 AM
> To: hive-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hive IRC channel?
>
> Even though it is awfully lonely in that channel I assume nobody will mind if I put it in the wiki?
>
> /Johan
>
> Johan Oskarsson wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I find IRC to be a very convenient way to communicate with others
>> interested in an open source project.
>> Would people be interested in joining ##hive on irc.freenode.net? This
>> is the IRC network where #hadoop and #hbase lives.
>>
>> Unfortunately the #hive channel is already occupied (by two inactive
>> persons).
>> Of course IRC isn't a substitute for having discussions on a mailing
>> list, but it is a very good complement.
>>
>> /Johan
>
RE: Hive IRC channel?
Posted by Ashish Thusoo <at...@facebook.com>.
There was one small thing about using chat...
The thing is that with JIRA the records of all the decisions, trade offs and discussions are available for people to see later. I am not sure whether we will have the same level of historical trace with chat and this channel may over time cannibalize the JIRA channel in the sense that there may be a tendency for the people to put up the final decision on the JIRA instead of all the discussions...
Thoughts?
Ashish
-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Oskarsson [mailto:johan@oskarsson.nu]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:02 AM
To: hive-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: Hive IRC channel?
Even though it is awfully lonely in that channel I assume nobody will mind if I put it in the wiki?
/Johan
Johan Oskarsson wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I find IRC to be a very convenient way to communicate with others
> interested in an open source project.
> Would people be interested in joining ##hive on irc.freenode.net? This
> is the IRC network where #hadoop and #hbase lives.
>
> Unfortunately the #hive channel is already occupied (by two inactive
> persons).
> Of course IRC isn't a substitute for having discussions on a mailing
> list, but it is a very good complement.
>
> /Johan
Re: Hive IRC channel?
Posted by Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>.
Even though it is awfully lonely in that channel I assume nobody will
mind if I put it in the wiki?
/Johan
Johan Oskarsson wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I find IRC to be a very convenient way to communicate with others
> interested in an open source project.
> Would people be interested in joining ##hive on irc.freenode.net? This
> is the IRC network where #hadoop and #hbase lives.
>
> Unfortunately the #hive channel is already occupied (by two inactive
> persons).
> Of course IRC isn't a substitute for having discussions on a mailing
> list, but it is a very good complement.
>
> /Johan