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Posted to dev@flagon.apache.org by Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> on 2021/04/08 02:58:39 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that question (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in CY2021 Q2.
If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) ).
Josh
> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit. We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the way.
>
> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the committer base very soon.
>
> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was clear that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there are new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re seeing? Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note from IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
>
> poorejc
>
>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to graduate from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left this alone for a while.
>>
>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from the Incubator (summarized here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>). Most of those are covered now.
>>
>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party distros (like NPM).
>>
>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
>>
>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a university), I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see this done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, which I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this area. So, I’m all for it (+1).
>>
>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Hi general@,
>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor of
>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! This
>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name SensSoft!!!
>>>
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E>
>>>
>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft --> Flagon)
>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution thread
>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the general@incubator
>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The resolution
>>> follows
>>>
>>> The draft of the resolution:
>>>
>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>> user testing.
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>> user testing, and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>> Apache Flagon Project:
>>>
>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Dave Meikle <dm...@apache.org>.
Hi Joshua,
It looks like a detailed report, and I think the update on the community
side you did helps.
Signing it now.
Cheers,
Dave
On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 20:16, Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.invalid> wrote:
> Great, thanks Furkan! Again, great feedback.
>
> Other MENTORS: any other short turn feedback? Please remember that it
> needs to be signed ASAP (I think needs be submitted to ASF on 4/15)
>
> Thanks all!
>
> > On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joshua,
> >
> > Thanks for the detailed report! This version is much better.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Furkan KAMACI
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in
> >> #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is
> short,
> >> just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made:
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
> <
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Josh
> >>
> >>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <de...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report.
> >>>
> >>> Joshua Poore
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Joshua,
> >>>>
> >>>> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
> >>>> elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last
> >> report
> >>>> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
> >>>> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>> Furkan KAMACI
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <poorejc@me.com.invalid
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Dave,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hey Joshua,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their
> Podling
> >>>>> report today at
> >>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
> >>>>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that
> >> question
> >>>>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for
> a
> >>>>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this
> in
> >>>>> CY2021 Q2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up
> the
> >>>>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed
> all
> >>>>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :)
> >> ).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Josh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
> >>>>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting
> some
> >>>>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on
> the
> >> way.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
> >>>>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
> >>>>> committer base very soon.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was
> >> clear
> >>>>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there
> >> are
> >>>>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets
> to
> >>>>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re
> >> seeing?
> >>>>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note
> >> from
> >>>>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate
> :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> poorejc
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org
> >>>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to
> >> graduate
> >>>>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch
> of
> >>>>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left
> >> this
> >>>>> alone for a while.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from
> >> the
> >>>>> Incubator (summarized here
> >>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation
> <
> >>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation
> >).
> >>>>> Most of those are covered now.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release
> candidate I
> >>>>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
> >>>>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party
> >> distros
> >>>>> (like NPM).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a
> >> university),
> >>>>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
> >>>>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to
> see
> >> this
> >>>>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base,
> >> which
> >>>>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this
> >> area.
> >>>>> So, I’m all for it (+1).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Josh
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> lewismc@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
> >>>>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
> >>>>>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> general@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> general@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi general@,
> >>>>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in
> favor
> >> of
> >>>>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago!
> >> This
> >>>>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
> >>>>> SensSoft!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
> >>>>> Flagon)
> >>>>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
> >>>>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution
> >> thread
> >>>>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
> >>>>> general@incubator
> >>>>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
> >>>>> resolution
> >>>>>>>>>> follows
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>>>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >>>>>>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging
> >> capability
> >>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>>>> user testing.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
> >>>>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>>>>>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>>>> user testing, and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
> >>>>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>>>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>>>>>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary
> >> responsibility
> >>>>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
> >>>>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> poorejc@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> lewismc@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> lmariano@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> cgimenez@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> msbeard@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
> >>>>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon,
> to
> >>>>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>>>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> >>>>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> >>>>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
> >>>>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <
> >> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.INVALID>.
Great, thanks Furkan! Again, great feedback.
Other MENTORS: any other short turn feedback? Please remember that it needs to be signed ASAP (I think needs be submitted to ASF on 4/15)
Thanks all!
> On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Joshua,
>
> Thanks for the detailed report! This version is much better.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in
>> #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is short,
>> just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <de...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report.
>>>
>>> Joshua Poore
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>>
>>>> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
>>>> elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last
>> report
>>>> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
>>>> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Furkan KAMACI
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Joshua,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling
>>>>> report today at
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
>>>>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that
>> question
>>>>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a
>>>>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in
>>>>> CY2021 Q2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the
>>>>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all
>>>>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :)
>> ).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
>>>>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some
>>>>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the
>> way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
>>>>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
>>>>> committer base very soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was
>> clear
>>>>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there
>> are
>>>>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to
>>>>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re
>> seeing?
>>>>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note
>> from
>>>>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> poorejc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to
>> graduate
>>>>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of
>>>>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left
>> this
>>>>> alone for a while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from
>> the
>>>>> Incubator (summarized here
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>).
>>>>> Most of those are covered now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I
>>>>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
>>>>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party
>> distros
>>>>> (like NPM).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a
>> university),
>>>>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
>>>>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see
>> this
>>>>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base,
>> which
>>>>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this
>> area.
>>>>> So, I’m all for it (+1).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> lewismc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
>>>>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
>>>>>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi general@,
>>>>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor
>> of
>>>>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago!
>> This
>>>>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
>>>>> SensSoft!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
>>>>> Flagon)
>>>>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
>>>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
>>>>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution
>> thread
>>>>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
>>>>> general@incubator
>>>>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
>>>>> resolution
>>>>>>>>>> follows
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>>>>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging
>> capability
>>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>>>>>>> user testing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
>>>>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
>>>>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>>>>>>> user testing, and be it further
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
>>>>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary
>> responsibility
>>>>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> poorejc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> lewismc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> lmariano@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> cgimenez@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> msbeard@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
>>>>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
>>>>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
>>>>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>>>>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <
>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>.
Hi Joshua,
Thanks for the detailed report! This version is much better.
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in
> #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is short,
> just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> > On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <de...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report.
> >
> > Joshua Poore
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Joshua,
> >>
> >> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
> >>
> >> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
> >> elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last
> report
> >> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
> >> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Furkan KAMACI
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Dave,
> >>>
> >>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
> >>>
> >>> Josh
> >>>
> >>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey Joshua,
> >>>>
> >>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling
> >>> report today at
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
> >>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that
> question
> >>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a
> >>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in
> >>> CY2021 Q2.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the
> >>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all
> >>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :)
> ).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
> >>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some
> >>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the
> way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
> >>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
> >>> committer base very soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was
> clear
> >>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there
> are
> >>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to
> >>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re
> seeing?
> >>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note
> from
> >>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> poorejc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org
> >>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to
> graduate
> >>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of
> >>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left
> this
> >>> alone for a while.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from
> the
> >>> Incubator (summarized here
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>).
> >>> Most of those are covered now.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I
> >>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
> >>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party
> distros
> >>> (like NPM).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a
> university),
> >>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
> >>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see
> this
> >>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base,
> which
> >>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this
> area.
> >>> So, I’m all for it (+1).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Josh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> lewismc@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
> >>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
> >>>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>> general@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>> general@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi general@,
> >>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor
> of
> >>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago!
> This
> >>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
> >>> SensSoft!!!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>> <
> >>>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
> >>> Flagon)
> >>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
> >>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
> >>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution
> thread
> >>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
> >>> general@incubator
> >>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
> >>> resolution
> >>>>>>>> follows
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >>>>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging
> capability
> >>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>> user testing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
> >>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>>>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>> user testing, and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
> >>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>>>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary
> responsibility
> >>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
> >>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> poorejc@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> lewismc@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> lmariano@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> cgimenez@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> msbeard@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
> >>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
> >>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> >>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> >>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
> >>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <
> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
> >>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org>.
Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is short, just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon>
Thanks,
Josh
> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report.
>
> Joshua Poore
>
>
>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joshua,
>>
>> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
>>
>> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
>> elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last report
>> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
>> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Furkan KAMACI
>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Joshua,
>>>>
>>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling
>>> report today at
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
>>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that question
>>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a
>>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in
>>> CY2021 Q2.
>>>>>
>>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the
>>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all
>>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) ).
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
>>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some
>>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
>>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
>>> committer base very soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was clear
>>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there are
>>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to
>>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re seeing?
>>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note from
>>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> poorejc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org
>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to graduate
>>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of
>>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left this
>>> alone for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from the
>>> Incubator (summarized here
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>).
>>> Most of those are covered now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I
>>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
>>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party distros
>>> (like NPM).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a university),
>>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
>>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see this
>>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, which
>>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this area.
>>> So, I’m all for it (+1).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
>>> lewismc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
>>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
>>>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
>>> general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
>>> general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi general@,
>>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor of
>>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! This
>>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
>>> SensSoft!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
>>> <
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
>>> Flagon)
>>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
>>>>>>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
>>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution thread
>>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
>>> general@incubator
>>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
>>> resolution
>>>>>>>> follows
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>>>>> user testing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
>>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
>>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>>>>> user testing, and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
>>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <mailto:
>>> poorejc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
>>> lewismc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <mailto:
>>> lmariano@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <mailto:
>>> cgimenez@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <mailto:
>>> msbeard@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
>>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
>>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
>>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Joshua Poore <de...@gmail.com>.
Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report.
Joshua Poore
> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Joshua,
>
> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
>
> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
> elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last report
> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Joshua,
>>>
>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling
>> report today at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that question
>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a
>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in
>> CY2021 Q2.
>>>>
>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the
>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all
>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) ).
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some
>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
>> committer base very soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was clear
>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there are
>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to
>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re seeing?
>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note from
>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
>>>>>
>>>>> poorejc
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to graduate
>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of
>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left this
>> alone for a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from the
>> Incubator (summarized here
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>).
>> Most of those are covered now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I
>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party distros
>> (like NPM).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a university),
>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see this
>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, which
>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this area.
>> So, I’m all for it (+1).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
>> lewismc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
>>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
>> general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
>> general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi general@,
>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor of
>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! This
>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
>> SensSoft!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
>> Flagon)
>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
>>>>>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution thread
>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
>> general@incubator
>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
>> resolution
>>>>>>> follows
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>>>> user testing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>>>> user testing, and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <mailto:
>> poorejc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
>> lewismc@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <mailto:
>> lmariano@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <mailto:
>> cgimenez@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <mailto:
>> msbeard@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>.
Hi Joshua,
It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last report
part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
>
> Josh
>
> > On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Joshua,
> >
> > Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling
> report today at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that question
> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a
> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in
> CY2021 Q2.
> >>
> >> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the
> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all
> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) ).
> >>
> >> Josh
> >>
> >>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some
> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the way.
> >>>
> >>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
> committer base very soon.
> >>>
> >>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was clear
> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there are
> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to
> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re seeing?
> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note from
> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
> >>>
> >>> poorejc
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to graduate
> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of
> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left this
> alone for a while.
> >>>>
> >>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from the
> Incubator (summarized here
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>).
> Most of those are covered now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I
> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party distros
> (like NPM).
> >>>>
> >>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
> >>>>
> >>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a university),
> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see this
> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, which
> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this area.
> So, I’m all for it (+1).
> >>>>
> >>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh
> >>>>
> >>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
> lewismc@apache.org>>
> >>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
> >>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
> >>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> general@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
> >>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> general@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi general@,
> >>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor of
> >>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! This
> >>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
> SensSoft!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
> Flagon)
> >>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
> >>>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
> >>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution thread
> >>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
> general@incubator
> >>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
> resolution
> >>>>> follows
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The draft of the resolution:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>> user testing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
> >>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>>> Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
> >>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>> user testing, and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
> >>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary responsibility
> >>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
> >>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>>> Apache Flagon Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <mailto:
> poorejc@apache.org>>
> >>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <mailto:
> lewismc@apache.org>>
> >>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <mailto:
> lmariano@apache.org>>
> >>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <mailto:
> cgimenez@apache.org>>
> >>>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <mailto:
> msbeard@apache.org>>
> >>>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
> >>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
> >>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> >>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> >>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
> >>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
> >>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
> >>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Joshua Poore <po...@me.com.INVALID>.
Hi Dave,
The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
Josh
> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Joshua,
>
> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling report today at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that question (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in CY2021 Q2.
>>
>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) ).
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit. We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the way.
>>>
>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the committer base very soon.
>>>
>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was clear that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there are new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re seeing? Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note from IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
>>>
>>> poorejc
>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to graduate from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left this alone for a while.
>>>>
>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from the Incubator (summarized here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>). Most of those are covered now.
>>>>
>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party distros (like NPM).
>>>>
>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
>>>>
>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a university), I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see this done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, which I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this area. So, I’m all for it (+1).
>>>>
>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi general@,
>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor of
>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! This
>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name SensSoft!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft --> Flagon)
>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution thread
>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the general@incubator
>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The resolution
>>>>> follows
>>>>>
>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
>>>>>
>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
>>>>>
>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>> user testing.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
>>>>> user testing, and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>> Apache Flagon Project:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish Apache Flagon TLP and Graduate from Incubator
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Hey Joshua,
Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling report today at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
Regards,
Dave
On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that question (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in CY2021 Q2.
>
> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) ).
>
> Josh
>
> > On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit. We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the way.
> >
> > IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the committer base very soon.
> >
> > @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was clear that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there are new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re seeing? Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note from IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
> >
> > poorejc
> >
> >> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to graduate from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left this alone for a while.
> >>
> >> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from the Incubator (summarized here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>). Most of those are covered now.
> >>
> >> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party distros (like NPM).
> >>
> >> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
> >>
> >> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a university), I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see this done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, which I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this area. So, I’m all for it (+1).
> >>
> >> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
> >>
> >> Josh
> >>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewismc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
> >>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <ma...@flagon.apache.org>
> >>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>
> >>> Hi general@,
> >>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor of
> >>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! This
> >>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name SensSoft!!!
> >>>
> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E>
> >>>
> >>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft --> Flagon)
> >>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
> >>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution thread
> >>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the general@incubator
> >>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The resolution
> >>> follows
> >>>
> >>> The draft of the resolution:
> >>>
> >>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
> >>>
> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>> user testing.
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
> >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>> Foundation; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
> >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>> user testing, and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
> >>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary responsibility
> >>> for management of the projects within the scope of
> >>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>> Apache Flagon Project:
> >>>
> >>> * Joshua Poore <poorejc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> * Laura Mariano <lmariano@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgimenez@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> * Alex Ford <aford@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> * Steve York <pykors@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> * Michelle Beard <msbeard@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> * Robert Foley <rf@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
> >>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
> >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> >>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> >>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
> >>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
> >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>> Project are hereafter discharged.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> >>
> >
>
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