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Posted to dev@creadur.apache.org by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> on 2009/11/18 16:32:01 UTC
Committers
One of the problems I have observed here in RAT is the lack of
committers on the project. There are simply not enough people with
cycles to apply patches in good time frames (I know from personal
experience).
Given the nature of RAT I would strongly suggest existing committers
look to recent activity and provide early commit access to people
already known to us. To be adopted and therefore improved RAT needs to
be adopted by the projects expecting to use it, when a project looks
keen to do so we should, at this stage, make it easy for them to do
so. Hence, as mentor, I suggest a low barrier to entry for people on
ASF projects.
Ross
--
Ross Gardler
OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
Re: Committers
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
2009/11/24 Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>:
> 2009/11/24 Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>:
>> Ross Gardler wrote:
>>> Robert mailed me offlist last week indicating he was going to propose
>>> a few new committers. I've not seen that mail yet.
>>>
>>> Robert?
>>
>> see rat-private
>
> Damn, that means I'm not subscribed to rat-private.
>
> Note, all votes for committers should also be made on incubator-private. See [1]
Sorry - notified to incubator-private
>
> "Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the
> Incubator private list."
>
> Please post a notice now.
>
> Ross
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
>
--
Ross Gardler
OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
Re: Committers
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
2009/11/24 Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> Robert mailed me offlist last week indicating he was going to propose
>> a few new committers. I've not seen that mail yet.
>>
>> Robert?
>
> see rat-private
Damn, that means I'm not subscribed to rat-private.
Note, all votes for committers should also be made on incubator-private. See [1]
"Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the
Incubator private list."
Please post a notice now.
Ross
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
RE: Committers
Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 9:00 PM
> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Committers
>
> Ross Gardler wrote:
> > Robert mailed me offlist last week indicating he was going to propose
> > a few new committers. I've not seen that mail yet.
ah, cool, if its all in hand then great, no probs.
Gav....
> >
> > Robert?
>
> see rat-private
>
> - robert
>
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Re: Committers
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>.
Ross Gardler wrote:
> Robert mailed me offlist last week indicating he was going to propose
> a few new committers. I've not seen that mail yet.
>
> Robert?
see rat-private
- robert
Re: Committers
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Robert mailed me offlist last week indicating he was going to propose
a few new committers. I've not seen that mail yet.
Robert?
Ross
2009/11/24 Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 8:27 AM
>> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Committers
>>
>> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> > 2009/11/18 Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>:
>> >> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> >>> One of the problems I have observed here in RAT is the lack of
>> >>> committers on the project. There are simply not enough people with
>> >>> cycles to apply patches in good time frames (I know from personal
>> >>> experience).
>> >>>
>> >>> Given the nature of RAT I would strongly suggest existing committers
>> >>> look to recent activity and provide early commit access to people
>> >>> already known to us. To be adopted and therefore improved RAT needs to
>> >>> be adopted by the projects expecting to use it, when a project looks
>> >>> keen to do so we should, at this stage, make it easy for them to do
>> >>> so. Hence, as mentor, I suggest a low barrier to entry for people on
>> >>> ASF projects.
>> >> sorry for dropping the ball on this.
>> >
>> > Blast - whilst writing this email I said to myself "be sure to
>> > indicate that this is not a complaint, the latest round of patches are
>> > all less than three days old". My intention was just to flag it - not
>> > to complain.
>>
>> i didn't take it as a complaint, more a call to arms. you're right and
>> the timing's right.
>>
>> - robert
>
> Ok, to move forward quickly then, can I suggest :-
>
> 1. Grant commit access to Brian Fox so he can sort out the website issues
> (and remove access again if he feels this can just be a temporary
> arrangement in order to get us over this hurdle)
>
> 2. Grant myself access in order to help apply patches in a timely manor. CTR
> of course should still be the order of the day, but if I helps ... ?
>
> Gav...
>
>
>
--
Ross Gardler
OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
Re: Committers
Posted by Brian Fox <br...@infinity.nu>.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 8:27 AM
>> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Committers
>>
>> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> > 2009/11/18 Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>:
>> >> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> >>> One of the problems I have observed here in RAT is the lack of
>> >>> committers on the project. There are simply not enough people with
>> >>> cycles to apply patches in good time frames (I know from personal
>> >>> experience).
>> >>>
>> >>> Given the nature of RAT I would strongly suggest existing committers
>> >>> look to recent activity and provide early commit access to people
>> >>> already known to us. To be adopted and therefore improved RAT needs to
>> >>> be adopted by the projects expecting to use it, when a project looks
>> >>> keen to do so we should, at this stage, make it easy for them to do
>> >>> so. Hence, as mentor, I suggest a low barrier to entry for people on
>> >>> ASF projects.
>> >> sorry for dropping the ball on this.
>> >
>> > Blast - whilst writing this email I said to myself "be sure to
>> > indicate that this is not a complaint, the latest round of patches are
>> > all less than three days old". My intention was just to flag it - not
>> > to complain.
>>
>> i didn't take it as a complaint, more a call to arms. you're right and
>> the timing's right.
>>
>> - robert
>
> Ok, to move forward quickly then, can I suggest :-
>
> 1. Grant commit access to Brian Fox so he can sort out the website issues
> (and remove access again if he feels this can just be a temporary
> arrangement in order to get us over this hurdle)
>
It's most likely a one time thing, but if it's easier for me to commit
directly, then I'll accept commit access for it.
> 2. Grant myself access in order to help apply patches in a timely manor. CTR
> of course should still be the order of the day, but if I helps ... ?
>
> Gav...
>
>
>
RE: Committers
Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 8:27 AM
> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Committers
>
> Ross Gardler wrote:
> > 2009/11/18 Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>:
> >> Ross Gardler wrote:
> >>> One of the problems I have observed here in RAT is the lack of
> >>> committers on the project. There are simply not enough people with
> >>> cycles to apply patches in good time frames (I know from personal
> >>> experience).
> >>>
> >>> Given the nature of RAT I would strongly suggest existing committers
> >>> look to recent activity and provide early commit access to people
> >>> already known to us. To be adopted and therefore improved RAT needs to
> >>> be adopted by the projects expecting to use it, when a project looks
> >>> keen to do so we should, at this stage, make it easy for them to do
> >>> so. Hence, as mentor, I suggest a low barrier to entry for people on
> >>> ASF projects.
> >> sorry for dropping the ball on this.
> >
> > Blast - whilst writing this email I said to myself "be sure to
> > indicate that this is not a complaint, the latest round of patches are
> > all less than three days old". My intention was just to flag it - not
> > to complain.
>
> i didn't take it as a complaint, more a call to arms. you're right and
> the timing's right.
>
> - robert
Ok, to move forward quickly then, can I suggest :-
1. Grant commit access to Brian Fox so he can sort out the website issues
(and remove access again if he feels this can just be a temporary
arrangement in order to get us over this hurdle)
2. Grant myself access in order to help apply patches in a timely manor. CTR
of course should still be the order of the day, but if I helps ... ?
Gav...
Re: Committers
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>.
Ross Gardler wrote:
> 2009/11/18 Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>:
>> Ross Gardler wrote:
>>> One of the problems I have observed here in RAT is the lack of
>>> committers on the project. There are simply not enough people with
>>> cycles to apply patches in good time frames (I know from personal
>>> experience).
>>>
>>> Given the nature of RAT I would strongly suggest existing committers
>>> look to recent activity and provide early commit access to people
>>> already known to us. To be adopted and therefore improved RAT needs to
>>> be adopted by the projects expecting to use it, when a project looks
>>> keen to do so we should, at this stage, make it easy for them to do
>>> so. Hence, as mentor, I suggest a low barrier to entry for people on
>>> ASF projects.
>> sorry for dropping the ball on this.
>
> Blast - whilst writing this email I said to myself "be sure to
> indicate that this is not a complaint, the latest round of patches are
> all less than three days old". My intention was just to flag it - not
> to complain.
i didn't take it as a complaint, more a call to arms. you're right and
the timing's right.
- robert
Re: Committers
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
2009/11/18 Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> One of the problems I have observed here in RAT is the lack of
>> committers on the project. There are simply not enough people with
>> cycles to apply patches in good time frames (I know from personal
>> experience).
>>
>> Given the nature of RAT I would strongly suggest existing committers
>> look to recent activity and provide early commit access to people
>> already known to us. To be adopted and therefore improved RAT needs to
>> be adopted by the projects expecting to use it, when a project looks
>> keen to do so we should, at this stage, make it easy for them to do
>> so. Hence, as mentor, I suggest a low barrier to entry for people on
>> ASF projects.
>
> sorry for dropping the ball on this.
Blast - whilst writing this email I said to myself "be sure to
indicate that this is not a complaint, the latest round of patches are
all less than three days old". My intention was just to flag it - not
to complain.
Ross
--
Ross Gardler
OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
Re: Committers
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <rd...@apache.org>.
Ross Gardler wrote:
> One of the problems I have observed here in RAT is the lack of
> committers on the project. There are simply not enough people with
> cycles to apply patches in good time frames (I know from personal
> experience).
>
> Given the nature of RAT I would strongly suggest existing committers
> look to recent activity and provide early commit access to people
> already known to us. To be adopted and therefore improved RAT needs to
> be adopted by the projects expecting to use it, when a project looks
> keen to do so we should, at this stage, make it easy for them to do
> so. Hence, as mentor, I suggest a low barrier to entry for people on
> ASF projects.
sorry for dropping the ball on this. the MSc workload is really heavy
and the courses really intense. i really can't devote any regular time
to open source ATM. i'll try to find some time to do what i can over the
next few days.
- robert