Re: web-editor AMAYA software resurrection in Apache Foundation ?

[Antoine Chevrier <1a...@gmail.com>]

Thank you Nick for your answers and comments.
I'm going to share thiswith the Amaya discussion list, and we will see if
something could be done.

For what I know, Amaya was first an INRIA project, integrating after W3C
supports.

> I see you use the word "resurrect" there.
Sorry for that term. It may be not a good one. You are right. I did not
want to hurt anyone. It was more a sort of image, saying: could Apache help
Amaya project, which *was* a web-editor software, according to the fact it
is not developed any more.

> a viable developer community around the project.  Does Amaya have that?
I'm afraid "not yet". A couple of individual developers from the Amaya
discussion list tried to improve some parts of the software during 2012 and
2013. In 2013, when I proposed to the Amaya discussion list to discuss how
we could relaunch the project, a dozen of people expressed their motivation
to help if a project to relaunch would be seriously done.

Freely,
Antoine



2014-07-30 14:38 GMT+02:00 Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org>:

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:20:44 +0200
> Antoine Chevrier <1a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Some of us like to use one of great WYSIWYG web editor: AMAYA software
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaya_%28web_editor%29>.
> > The development and the maintaining of this software project, hold at the
> > beginning by INRIA, and adopted by W3C, has been stopped, because of the
> > retirement of people who drove this project.
>
> I remember Amaya: it was an interesting experiment.
> Wasn't it a W3C project that was briefly funded in the mid-1990s,
> but that struggled to maintain momentum when funding dried up?
> I guess much may have happened since I looked.
>
> > An AMAYA discussion list exist on W3C mailing list
> > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-amaya/>. Appeal to continue
> this
> > project and technical proposals, appear regularly across this list.
>
> I see you use the word "resurrect" there.
> Apache is not in the business of necrophilia!
>
> > Our question is this: do you think the Apache Foundation could propose to
> > the MAYA mailing list, to open a process to see if AMAYA project could
> > enter into the Apache incubator project list, and how could this happen.
>
> Apache doesn't propose anything.  Developers/Communities (having discussed
> it amongst themselves) present a proposal to Apache in accordance with the
> incubator guidelines[1].  If you want to submit a proposal, you should
> start
> by reading the guidelines and other incubator documents.
>
> Note that a prerequisite for incubation is that there should be a
> viable developer community around the project.  Does Amaya have that?
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
>
> --
> Nick Kew
>

Re: web-editor AMAYA software resurrection in Apache Foundation ?

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

Hi,

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Antoine Chevrier
<1a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...could Apache help
> Amaya project, which *was* a web-editor software, according to the fact it
> is not developed any more...

Apache doesn't "help" projects - we just provide a neutral space for
projects to exist.

If you and a few others are willing to continue Amaya development
here, and you have a way to get to code donated to the ASF that's in
line with how the Incubator works - but you'll need to first form the
group that will work on the incubating project.

-Bertrand

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