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[DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Hi all,
Please provide your feedback on this proposed graduation resolution by the
PredictionIO community below. We are hoping to reach a consensus here
before we start a recommendation vote. Thanks!
Regards,
Donald
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X. Establish the Apache PredictionIO Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to a machine learning server built on top of
state-of-the-art open source stack, that enables developers to manage
and deploy production-ready predictive services for various kinds of
machine learning tasks.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache PredictionIO Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache PredictionIO Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a machine learning server built on top of
state-of-the-art open source stack, that enables developers to manage
and deploy production-ready predictive services for various kinds of
machine learning tasks;
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache PredictionIO" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache PredictionIO Project, and to have primary
responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache PredictionIO Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache PredictionIO Project:
* Alex Merritt <em...@apache.org>
* Andrew Kyle Purtell <ap...@apache.org>
* Chan Lee <ch...@apache.org>
* Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>
* Felipe Oliveira <fe...@apache.org>
* James Taylor <jt...@apache.org>
* Justin Yip <yi...@apache.org>
* Kenneth Chan <ke...@apache.org>
* Lars Hofhansl <la...@apache.org>
* Lee Moon Soo <mo...@apache.org>
* Luciano Resende <lr...@apache.org>
* Marcin Ziemiński <zi...@apache.org>
* Marco Vivero <mv...@apache.org>
* Mars Hall <ma...@apache.org>
* Matthew Tovbin <to...@apache.org>
* Naoki Takezoe <ta...@apache.org>
* Pat Ferrel <pa...@apache.org>
* Paul Li <pa...@apache.org>
* Shinsuke Sugaya <sh...@apache.org>
* Simon Chan <si...@apache.org>
* Takahiro Hagino <ha...@apache.org>
* Takako Shimamoto <sh...@apache.org>
* Tamas Jambor <tj...@apache.org>
* Tom Chan <tc...@apache.org>
* Vitaly Gordon <vi...@apache.org>
* Xiangrui Meng <me...@apache.org>
* Xusen Yin <yi...@apache.org>
* Yevgeny Khodorkovsky <ye...@apache.org>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Donald Szeto
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache PredictionIO, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache PredictionIO PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache PredictionIO Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache PredictionIO Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator PredictionIO podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator PredictionIO podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO
podling
Posted by Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com>.
oh, nm I found it. Pasted below, there were no dissenters to Donald’s detailed assessment.
On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
Actually we did go over the maturity checklist ourselves. Donald, maybe you can forwards the thread here.
================ pasted from the thread on dev@predictionio.incubator.apache.org <ma...@predictionio.incubator.apache.org> ==================
Begin forwarded message:
From: Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: Graduation to TLP
Date: September 5, 2017 at 10:32:08 AM PDT
To: dev@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
Reply-To: dev@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
Thanks for the clarification Pat! It always help to have Apache veterans to
provide historical context to these processes.
As for me, I'd like to remain as PMC and committer.
I like the idea of polling the current committers and PMC, but like you
said, most of them got pretty busy and may not be reading mailing list in a
while. Maybe let me try a shout out here and see if anyone would
acknowledge it, so that we know whether a poll will be effective.
*>> If you're a PMC or committer who see this line but hasn't been replying
this thread, please acknowledge. <<*
Regarding the maturity model, this is my perception right now:
- CD10, CD20, CD30, CD40 (and we start to have CD50 as well)
- LC10, LC20, LC30, LC40, LC50
- RE10, RE20, RE30, RE50 (I think we hope to also do RE40 with 0.12)
- QU10, QU30, QU40, QU50 (we should put a bit of focus to QU20)
- CO10, CO20, CO30, CO40, CO60, CO70 (for CO50, I think we've been
operating under the assumption that PMC and contributors are pretty
standard definitions by ASF. We can call those out explicitly.)
- CS10, CS50 (We are also assuming implicitly CS20, CS30, and CS40 from
main ASF doc)
- IN10, IN20
Let me know what you think.
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Pat Ferrel <pat@occamsmachete.com <ma...@occamsmachete.com>> wrote:
> The Chair, PMC, and Committers may be different after graduation.
> PMC/committers are sometimes not active committers but can have a valuable
> role as mentors, in non-technical roles, as support people on the mailing
> list, or as sometimes committers who don’t seem very active but come in
> every so often to make a key contribution. So I hope this doesn’t become a
> time to prune too deeply. I’d suggest we only do that if one of the
> committers has done something to lessen our project maturity or wants to be
> left out for their own reasons. An example of bad behavior is someone
> trying to exert corporate dominance (which is severely frowned on by the
> ASF). Another would be someone who is disruptive to the point of destroying
> team effectiveness. I personally haven’t seen any of this but purposely
> don’t read everything so chime in here.
>
> It would be good to have people declare their interest-level. As for me,
> I’d like to remain on the PMC as a committer but have no interest in Chair.
> Since people can become busy periodically and not read @dev (me?) we could,
> maybe should, poll the current committers and PMC to get the lists ready
> for the graduation proposal.
>
>
> Don’t forget that we are not just asking for dev community opinion about
> graduation. We are also asking that people check things like the Maturity
> Checklist to see it we are ready. http://community.apache.org/
> apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html <
> http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html <http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html>>
> People seem fairly enthusiastic about applying for graduation, but are
> there things we need to do before hand? The goal is to show that we do not
> require the second level check for decisions that the IPMC provides. The
> last release required no changes but had a proviso about content licenses.
> This next release should fly through without provisos IMHO. Are there other
> things we should do?
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 6:16 AM, takako shimamoto <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I entirely agree with everyone else.
> I hope the PIO community will become more active after graduation.
>
>> 2. If we are to graduate, who should we include in the list of the
> initial
>> PMC?
>
> Don't all present IPMC members are included in the list of the initial PMC?
>
> Personally, I think we may as well check and see if present IPMC
> members intend to become an initial PMC for graduation.
> Members who make a declaration of intent to become it will surely
> contribute to the project.
> It is a great contribution not only to develop a program but also to
> respond to email aggressively or fix document.
>
>
> 2017-08-29 14:20 GMT+09:00 Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Since the ASF Board meeting in May (
>> http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2017/board_
> minutes_2017_05_17.txt),
>> PredictionIO has been considered nearing graduation and I think we are
>> almost there. I am kickstarting this thread so that we can discuss on
> these
>> 3 things:
>>
>> 1. Does the development community feel ready to graduate?
>> 2. If we are to graduate, who should we include in the list of the
> initial
>> PMC?
>> 3. If we are to graduate, who should be the VP of the initial PMC?
>>
>> These points are relevant for graduation. Please take a look at the
>> official graduation guide:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>>
>> In addition, Sara and I have been working to transfer the PredictionIO
>> trademark to the ASF. We will keep you updated with our progress.
>>
>> I would also like to propose to cut a 0.12.0 release by merging JIRAs
> that
>> have a target version set to 0.12.0-incubating for graduation. 0.12.0
> will
>> contain cleanups for minor license and copyright issues that were pointed
>> out in previous releases by IPMC.
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Donald
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO
podling
Posted by Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com>.
oh, nm I found it. Pasted below, there were no dissenters to Donald’s detailed assessment.
On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
Actually we did go over the maturity checklist ourselves. Donald, maybe you can forwards the thread here.
================ pasted from the thread on dev@predictionio.incubator.apache.org <ma...@predictionio.incubator.apache.org> ==================
Begin forwarded message:
From: Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: Graduation to TLP
Date: September 5, 2017 at 10:32:08 AM PDT
To: dev@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
Reply-To: dev@predictionio.incubator.apache.org
Thanks for the clarification Pat! It always help to have Apache veterans to
provide historical context to these processes.
As for me, I'd like to remain as PMC and committer.
I like the idea of polling the current committers and PMC, but like you
said, most of them got pretty busy and may not be reading mailing list in a
while. Maybe let me try a shout out here and see if anyone would
acknowledge it, so that we know whether a poll will be effective.
*>> If you're a PMC or committer who see this line but hasn't been replying
this thread, please acknowledge. <<*
Regarding the maturity model, this is my perception right now:
- CD10, CD20, CD30, CD40 (and we start to have CD50 as well)
- LC10, LC20, LC30, LC40, LC50
- RE10, RE20, RE30, RE50 (I think we hope to also do RE40 with 0.12)
- QU10, QU30, QU40, QU50 (we should put a bit of focus to QU20)
- CO10, CO20, CO30, CO40, CO60, CO70 (for CO50, I think we've been
operating under the assumption that PMC and contributors are pretty
standard definitions by ASF. We can call those out explicitly.)
- CS10, CS50 (We are also assuming implicitly CS20, CS30, and CS40 from
main ASF doc)
- IN10, IN20
Let me know what you think.
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Pat Ferrel <pat@occamsmachete.com <ma...@occamsmachete.com>> wrote:
> The Chair, PMC, and Committers may be different after graduation.
> PMC/committers are sometimes not active committers but can have a valuable
> role as mentors, in non-technical roles, as support people on the mailing
> list, or as sometimes committers who don’t seem very active but come in
> every so often to make a key contribution. So I hope this doesn’t become a
> time to prune too deeply. I’d suggest we only do that if one of the
> committers has done something to lessen our project maturity or wants to be
> left out for their own reasons. An example of bad behavior is someone
> trying to exert corporate dominance (which is severely frowned on by the
> ASF). Another would be someone who is disruptive to the point of destroying
> team effectiveness. I personally haven’t seen any of this but purposely
> don’t read everything so chime in here.
>
> It would be good to have people declare their interest-level. As for me,
> I’d like to remain on the PMC as a committer but have no interest in Chair.
> Since people can become busy periodically and not read @dev (me?) we could,
> maybe should, poll the current committers and PMC to get the lists ready
> for the graduation proposal.
>
>
> Don’t forget that we are not just asking for dev community opinion about
> graduation. We are also asking that people check things like the Maturity
> Checklist to see it we are ready. http://community.apache.org/
> apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html <
> http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html <http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html>>
> People seem fairly enthusiastic about applying for graduation, but are
> there things we need to do before hand? The goal is to show that we do not
> require the second level check for decisions that the IPMC provides. The
> last release required no changes but had a proviso about content licenses.
> This next release should fly through without provisos IMHO. Are there other
> things we should do?
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 6:16 AM, takako shimamoto <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I entirely agree with everyone else.
> I hope the PIO community will become more active after graduation.
>
>> 2. If we are to graduate, who should we include in the list of the
> initial
>> PMC?
>
> Don't all present IPMC members are included in the list of the initial PMC?
>
> Personally, I think we may as well check and see if present IPMC
> members intend to become an initial PMC for graduation.
> Members who make a declaration of intent to become it will surely
> contribute to the project.
> It is a great contribution not only to develop a program but also to
> respond to email aggressively or fix document.
>
>
> 2017-08-29 14:20 GMT+09:00 Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Since the ASF Board meeting in May (
>> http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2017/board_
> minutes_2017_05_17.txt),
>> PredictionIO has been considered nearing graduation and I think we are
>> almost there. I am kickstarting this thread so that we can discuss on
> these
>> 3 things:
>>
>> 1. Does the development community feel ready to graduate?
>> 2. If we are to graduate, who should we include in the list of the
> initial
>> PMC?
>> 3. If we are to graduate, who should be the VP of the initial PMC?
>>
>> These points are relevant for graduation. Please take a look at the
>> official graduation guide:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>>
>> In addition, Sara and I have been working to transfer the PredictionIO
>> trademark to the ASF. We will keep you updated with our progress.
>>
>> I would also like to propose to cut a 0.12.0 release by merging JIRAs
> that
>> have a target version set to 0.12.0-incubating for graduation. 0.12.0
> will
>> contain cleanups for minor license and copyright issues that were pointed
>> out in previous releases by IPMC.
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Donald
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO
podling
Posted by Pat Ferrel <pa...@occamsmachete.com>.
Actually we did go over the maturity checklist ourselves. Donald, maybe you can forwards the thread here.
On Sep 29, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
Hi John,
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:59 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...I wouldn't conflate lack of mentor engagement with a project's readiness to
> graduate, though I do agree with just hearing from them...
Yes, what I was asking for is a clear statement from the mentors about
graduation readiness, as I think they are the best placed to judge
that. Andrew has provided that now.
-Bertrand
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@codeconsult.ch>.
Hi John,
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:59 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...I wouldn't conflate lack of mentor engagement with a project's readiness to
> graduate, though I do agree with just hearing from them...
Yes, what I was asking for is a clear statement from the mentors about
graduation readiness, as I think they are the best placed to judge
that. Andrew has provided that now.
-Bertrand
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>.
Thank you Shane!
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> Awesome. Thanks for your clarification Shane!
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:44 PM Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>
> > Andrew Purtell wrote on 10/3/17 5:59 PM:
> > > I think we can proceed to a vote as soon as Shane confirms we are good
> on
> > > the PredictionIO trademark transfer. Should we ping him?
> >
> > The trademark assignment is signed, so you're all set to vote for
> > graduation recommendation!
> >
> > Note that the ownership of the trademark in the USPTO's system will take
> > a while to file the paperwork to show the change of ownership (sometimes
> > a while...) but that doesn't matter for graduation.
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Shane
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
> >
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> >
>
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Best regards,
Andrew
Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
decrepit hands
- A23, Crosstalk
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>.
Awesome. Thanks for your clarification Shane!
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:44 PM Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> Andrew Purtell wrote on 10/3/17 5:59 PM:
> > I think we can proceed to a vote as soon as Shane confirms we are good on
> > the PredictionIO trademark transfer. Should we ping him?
>
> The trademark assignment is signed, so you're all set to vote for
> graduation recommendation!
>
> Note that the ownership of the trademark in the USPTO's system will take
> a while to file the paperwork to show the change of ownership (sometimes
> a while...) but that doesn't matter for graduation.
>
> --
>
> - Shane
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO
podling
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Andrew Purtell wrote on 10/3/17 5:59 PM:
> I think we can proceed to a vote as soon as Shane confirms we are good on
> the PredictionIO trademark transfer. Should we ping him?
The trademark assignment is signed, so you're all set to vote for
graduation recommendation!
Note that the ownership of the trademark in the USPTO's system will take
a while to file the paperwork to show the change of ownership (sometimes
a while...) but that doesn't matter for graduation.
--
- Shane
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>.
Yes Andrew. That would be great.
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:00 PM Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think we can proceed to a vote as soon as Shane confirms we are good on
> the PredictionIO trademark transfer. Should we ping him?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks everyone for input! Should we wait for more comments, or is this a
> > good time to move to a recommendation vote?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Donald
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Andrew Purtell
> > > <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ...I think they are ready to graduate...
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your comments, with this I'm +1 for graduation.
> > >
> > > The resolution looks good to me.
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
> - A23, Crosstalk
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>.
I think we can proceed to a vote as soon as Shane confirms we are good on
the PredictionIO trademark transfer. Should we ping him?
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks everyone for input! Should we wait for more comments, or is this a
> good time to move to a recommendation vote?
>
> Regards,
> Donald
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Andrew Purtell
> > <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ...I think they are ready to graduate...
> >
> > Thank you very much for your comments, with this I'm +1 for graduation.
> >
> > The resolution looks good to me.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
>
--
Best regards,
Andrew
Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
decrepit hands
- A23, Crosstalk
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org>.
Thanks everyone for input! Should we wait for more comments, or is this a
good time to move to a recommendation vote?
Regards,
Donald
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Andrew Purtell
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...I think they are ready to graduate...
>
> Thank you very much for your comments, with this I'm +1 for graduation.
>
> The resolution looks good to me.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@codeconsult.ch>.
Hi Andrew,
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Andrew Purtell
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...I think they are ready to graduate...
Thank you very much for your comments, with this I'm +1 for graduation.
The resolution looks good to me.
-Bertrand
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>.
I am mentor and champion.
I've made some comment on the incubator reports to the board about readiness, in the past few reports. PredictionIO has gotten the hang of making releases, is reliably following ASF policies and practice (I lurk on all the lists), has grown their PPMC, and on their own initiative raised the prospect of graduation, self-assessing they are ready, which is a signal of readiness in its own right in my opinion. They've done this despite a lack of engagement of their mentors.
I think they are ready to graduate.
If you would like me to expand on any of this please ask.
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:59 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:35 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> ...Please provide your feedback on this proposed graduation resolution
>> by the
>>> PredictionIO community below...
>>
>> Maybe I missed something but looking at the links below, that you
>> provided before, I see very few comments from your mentors about
>> PredictionIO's readiness for graduation.
>>
>>
> I wouldn't conflate lack of mentor engagement with a project's readiness to
> graduate, though I do agree with just hearing from them.
>
>
>> Could we have a stronger statement from your mentors about that? Or
>> links to that if I missed it.
>>
>> Also, has there been an assessment of the project's maturity as per
>> [0] ? It is not a strong requirement but often a great way to find
>> things that might have been overlooked during incubation.
>>
>
> I see [3], but to reiterate completing the maturity assessment is not a
> requirement for the incubator to recommend them for graduation.
>
> [3]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/94f22dd6e81063af020a206f59ac7137c7e52f2d2664639093ce17e2@%3Cdev.predictionio.apache.org%3E
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>> -Bertrand
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>> [0]
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:35 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> > ...Please provide your feedback on this proposed graduation resolution
> by the
> > PredictionIO community below...
>
> Maybe I missed something but looking at the links below, that you
> provided before, I see very few comments from your mentors about
> PredictionIO's readiness for graduation.
>
>
I wouldn't conflate lack of mentor engagement with a project's readiness to
graduate, though I do agree with just hearing from them.
> Could we have a stronger statement from your mentors about that? Or
> links to that if I missed it.
>
> Also, has there been an assessment of the project's maturity as per
> [0] ? It is not a strong requirement but often a great way to find
> things that might have been overlooked during incubation.
>
I see [3], but to reiterate completing the maturity assessment is not a
requirement for the incubator to recommend them for graduation.
[3]:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/94f22dd6e81063af020a206f59ac7137c7e52f2d2664639093ce17e2@%3Cdev.predictionio.apache.org%3E
>
> -Bertrand
>
> [0]
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
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Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@codeconsult.ch>.
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Donald Szeto <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...Please provide your feedback on this proposed graduation resolution by the
> PredictionIO community below...
Maybe I missed something but looking at the links below, that you
provided before, I see very few comments from your mentors about
PredictionIO's readiness for graduation.
Could we have a stronger statement from your mentors about that? Or
links to that if I missed it.
Also, has there been an assessment of the project's maturity as per
[0] ? It is not a strong requirement but often a great way to find
things that might have been overlooked during incubation.
-Bertrand
[0] https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
2b4ef7c394584988cf0c99920824afaa60ee4c648d5c0069b1bf55c0@%
3Cdev.predictionio.apache.org%3E
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