You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "David Crossley (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> on 2008/09/26 06:33:44 UTC
[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification or be
followed
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification or be followed
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Key: INCUBATOR-93
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
Project: Incubator
Issue Type: Bug
Components: policy
Reporter: David Crossley
This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process
depends on who is Sponsor
Posted by "David Crossley (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
David Crossley updated INCUBATOR-93:
------------------------------------
Summary: Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor (was: Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification or be followed)
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process
depends on who is Sponsor
Posted by "Craig Russell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12640372#action_12640372 ]
Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-93:
----------------------------------------
+1 on the patch content.
Could you clean up the >>80 character lines?
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
> Attachments: INCUBATOR-93.txt
>
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process
depends on who is Sponsor
Posted by "David Crossley (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12638185#action_12638185 ]
David Crossley commented on INCUBATOR-93:
-----------------------------------------
ROTFL, you fisherman, you. Yeah i will try next week.
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process
depends on who is Sponsor
Posted by "David Crossley (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
David Crossley updated INCUBATOR-93:
------------------------------------
Attachment: INCUBATOR-93.txt
See the attached patch:
In Incubation_Policy.xml ...
* Add sentence to distinguish between IPMC being the sponsor or a TLP.
* Move the "Acceptance of Mentors" paragraph to its own sub-section.
In Process_Description.xml ...
* Add an "Introduction" section at beginning to remind to read other documents which also explain the process.
* Add words to distinguish between IPMC being the sponsor or a TLP.
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
> Attachments: INCUBATOR-93.txt
>
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process
depends on who is Sponsor
Posted by "Craig Russell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12638174#action_12638174 ]
Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-93:
----------------------------------------
It would be great if you would write a patch to clarify this.
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process
depends on who is Sponsor
Posted by "David Crossley (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
David Crossley closed INCUBATOR-93.
-----------------------------------
Resolution: Fixed
The Vote was a successful result. One person voted here, the others on general@ list.
[Vote] [Policy] clarify podling acceptance: INCUBATOR-93Link to this message
http://markmail.org/message/w5e2j6fyavwom7bm
Patch is now applied.
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
> Attachments: INCUBATOR-93.txt
>
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification or be
followed
Posted by "David Crossley (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12638161#action_12638161 ]
David Crossley commented on INCUBATOR-93:
-----------------------------------------
One issue seems to be that these documents do to not differentiate between the "Sponsor" being some other existing PMC or the Sponsor being the Incubator PMC (on behalf of the board). When read from the former point-of-view, they make more sense than the latter.
Craig summed it up:
"...If the Sponsor is *not* the incubator, then the paragraph you cited applies. If the Sponsor *is* the incubator, nothing else is required."
Bill's words earlier in that thread are useful:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200810.mbox/%3c48E39E27.1020304@rowe-clan.net%3e
In another thread Jukka summed it up:
"No ACK needed, as it was the Incubator PMC itself who just voted."
>From those words we should be able to add an introductory paragraph in those sections to remind.
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification or be followed
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-93)
Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification or be
followed
Posted by "David Crossley (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12636275#action_12636275 ]
David Crossley commented on INCUBATOR-93:
-----------------------------------------
The main reference is: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator
and another source of confusion is: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html#Acceptance
> Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification or be followed
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-93
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-93
> Project: Incubator
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: policy
> Reporter: David Crossley
>
> This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.
> This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
-
You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org