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Web applications, License and Notice files
A web application (war) is distributed as part of a binary
distribution that DOES mention all necessary 3rd party licenses and
notices (that is included in WEB-INF\lib of the war) in it's binary
distribution. The question I have, is if each web application (war)
MUST also mention the 3rd party license and notices for the 3rd party
dependencies that are include in the WEB-INF\lib inside the war, even
tough they are not distributed/released by itself outside the binary
distribution.
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Re: Web applications, License and Notice files
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 20, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
> A web application (war) is distributed as part of a binary
> distribution that DOES mention all necessary 3rd party licenses and
> notices (that is included in WEB-INF\lib of the war) in it's binary
> distribution. The question I have, is if each web application (war)
> MUST also mention the 3rd party license and notices for the 3rd party
> dependencies that are include in the WEB-INF\lib inside the war, even
> tough they are not distributed/released by itself outside the binary
> distribution.
IMO, not strictly necessary. However, it would be convenient... Somebody may choose to redistribute in a form separate from your binary distribution.
If the WAR is available via maven repository, IMO, it should contain appropriate LICENSE/NOTICE files.
--kevan
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Re: Web applications, License and Notice files
Posted by Onno Kluyt <on...@onno.com>.
Really folks, it's Christmas.
Onno.
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:22 PM, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You have a situation like this?
>
> foo-distro.zip
> - bar.war
> --WEB-INF/lib/peculiar.jar
> LICENSE
> NOTICE
>
> I don't think apache policy requires you to also put the licensing info inside the war, but if there's any chance that anyone will ever use the war outside the distribution I think it would greatly promote clarity to make it so consumers of the war can easily find out what the licensing is. For instance, someone might try to put the war in a publically accessible maven repo. Have you ever tried to figure out licensing of artifacts that don't include that info?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> A web application (war) is distributed as part of a binary
>>> distribution that DOES mention all necessary 3rd party licenses and
>>> notices (that is included in WEB-INF\lib of the war) in it's binary
>>> distribution. The question I have, is if each web application (war)
>>> MUST also mention the 3rd party license and notices for the 3rd party
>>> dependencies that are include in the WEB-INF\lib inside the war, even
>>> tough they are not distributed/released by itself outside the binary
>>> distribution.
>>>
>>
>> ping, anyone with some thoughts here ?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Resende
>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>>
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Re: Web applications, License and Notice files
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:22 PM, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You have a situation like this?
>
> foo-distro.zip
> - bar.war
> --WEB-INF/lib/peculiar.jar
> LICENSE
> NOTICE
>
> I don't think apache policy requires you to also put the licensing info inside the war, but if there's any chance that anyone will ever use the war outside the distribution I think it would greatly promote clarity to make it so consumers of the war can easily find out what the licensing is. For instance, someone might try to put the war in a publically accessible maven repo. Have you ever tried to figure out licensing of artifacts that don't include that info?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
>
This is aligned with my thoughts, and I already have plans to fix it
for next release, but didn't want to go trough the whole process of
photark release candidate respin and podling votes before it reaches
IPMC again.
Thanks.
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Re: Web applications, License and Notice files
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
The problem herein is that bar.war might contain 3rd party jars which might have different licenses. Usually in our source we do not 'distribute' them, but packed in a WAR we do!
The problem is that a WAR usually doesn't contain the sources, and so we e.g. might not package LGPLed jars, etc
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Sun, 12/26/10, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Web applications, License and Notice files
> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 2:22 AM
> You have a situation like this?
>
> foo-distro.zip
> - bar.war
> --WEB-INF/lib/peculiar.jar
> LICENSE
> NOTICE
>
> I don't think apache policy requires you to also put the
> licensing info inside the war, but if there's any chance
> that anyone will ever use the war outside the distribution I
> think it would greatly promote clarity to make it so
> consumers of the war can easily find out what the licensing
> is. For instance, someone might try to put the war in
> a publically accessible maven repo. Have you ever
> tried to figure out licensing of artifacts that don't
> include that info?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Luciano Resende
> <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> A web application (war) is distributed as part of
> a binary
> >> distribution that DOES mention all necessary 3rd
> party licenses and
> >> notices (that is included in WEB-INF\lib of the
> war) in it's binary
> >> distribution. The question I have, is if each web
> application (war)
> >> MUST also mention the 3rd party license and
> notices for the 3rd party
> >> dependencies that are include in the WEB-INF\lib
> inside the war, even
> >> tough they are not distributed/released by itself
> outside the binary
> >> distribution.
> >>
> >
> > ping, anyone with some thoughts here ?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
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Re: Web applications, License and Notice files
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
You have a situation like this?
foo-distro.zip
- bar.war
--WEB-INF/lib/peculiar.jar
LICENSE
NOTICE
I don't think apache policy requires you to also put the licensing info inside the war, but if there's any chance that anyone will ever use the war outside the distribution I think it would greatly promote clarity to make it so consumers of the war can easily find out what the licensing is. For instance, someone might try to put the war in a publically accessible maven repo. Have you ever tried to figure out licensing of artifacts that don't include that info?
thanks
david jencks
On Dec 25, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A web application (war) is distributed as part of a binary
>> distribution that DOES mention all necessary 3rd party licenses and
>> notices (that is included in WEB-INF\lib of the war) in it's binary
>> distribution. The question I have, is if each web application (war)
>> MUST also mention the 3rd party license and notices for the 3rd party
>> dependencies that are include in the WEB-INF\lib inside the war, even
>> tough they are not distributed/released by itself outside the binary
>> distribution.
>>
>
> ping, anyone with some thoughts here ?
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: Web applications, License and Notice files
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A web application (war) is distributed as part of a binary
> distribution that DOES mention all necessary 3rd party licenses and
> notices (that is included in WEB-INF\lib of the war) in it's binary
> distribution. The question I have, is if each web application (war)
> MUST also mention the 3rd party license and notices for the 3rd party
> dependencies that are include in the WEB-INF\lib inside the war, even
> tough they are not distributed/released by itself outside the binary
> distribution.
>
ping, anyone with some thoughts here ?
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