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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de> on 2004/05/11 22:00:58 UTC
Re: Could not check out the file
I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
bother breaking locks.
Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
automatically?
Andreas
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From: "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>
To: "Lenya Users List" <le...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Could not check out the file
> Kirk Storer wrote:
>
> > When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
> > the following message.
> >
> > Could not check out the file
> >
> > Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
> > another user
> > User: alice
> > Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
> > Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
> >
> > If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
> > other users can edit it.
>
> unfortunately, currently there is no GUI way to break a lock. you have
> to go into content/rcml/content/authoring/yourpage/index_en.xml.rcml and
> look at the entries in there
>
> <CheckOut>
> <Identity>lenya</Identity>
> <Time>1083252253647</Time>
> </CheckOut>
>
> if the most recent (the ones on top) are CheckOut and no corresponding
> CheckIn you have a lock. you can break the lock by removing the CheckOut
> line.
>
> i updated the FAQ http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaFAQ
>
> we really need to have an admin function to do that.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gregor J. Rothfuss
> Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
> http://wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
How about a kind of session timeout.
The user can check out the file for lets say 5-10 min after that he will
get a system message that the leash is expired.
For offline editing we could use that leash system in a
"rent-a-document" manner. You can check out the doc for a certain time
after that the scheduler releases the lock
King regards
thorsten
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should
>> not have to
>> bother breaking locks.
>>
>> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
>> automatically?
>
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
>
> -- Andreas
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 09:37, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
> > I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> > bother breaking locks.
> >
> > Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> > automatically?
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
I think the lock/unlock behaviour should be configurable on publication
level.
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Rolf Kulemann
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should
>> not have to
>> bother breaking locks.
>>
>> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
>> automatically?
>
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
I think the problem is to recognize when a session is over, because
the servlet API has become more restrictive.
Many people don't really logout explicitely.
But I think for productive use of Lenya it's very important to see
what users are being loged in.
Michi
>
> -- Andreas
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Jann Forrer <ja...@id.unizh.ch>.
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
> > I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> > bother breaking locks.
> >
> > Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> > automatically?
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
I thought the information whether a user is logged is not available
yet?
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
>
Another thought: What if the administrator of a publication can edit
every file and is therefore able to release the lock? I know, not a very
sophisticated method ;-)
Jann
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should
>> not have to
>> bother breaking locks.
>>
>> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
>> automatically?
>
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
I think the problem is to recognize when a session is over, because
the servlet API has become more restrictive.
Many people don't really logout explicitely.
But I think for productive use of Lenya it's very important to see
what users are being loged in.
Michi
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Jann Forrer <ja...@id.unizh.ch>.
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
> > I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> > bother breaking locks.
> >
> > Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> > automatically?
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
I thought the information whether a user is logged is not available
yet?
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
>
Another thought: What if the administrator of a publication can edit
every file and is therefore able to release the lock? I know, not a very
sophisticated method ;-)
Jann
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Informatikdienste
Universität Zürich
Winterthurerstr. 190
CH-8057 Zuerich
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> bother breaking locks.
>
> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> automatically?
The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
and otherwise check in the document ...
<random-thought>
Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
</random-thought>
-- Andreas
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> bother breaking locks.
>
> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> automatically?
The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
and otherwise check in the document ...
<random-thought>
Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
</random-thought>
-- Andreas
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