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Posted to dev@royale.apache.org by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> on 2018/01/10 16:03:55 UTC
Apache Royale website is live!!
Hi all,
just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Andrew,
Great feedback! Thank you so much!
I think we should put suggestions to our website! :)
Piotr
2018-01-10 21:16 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> Thanks, Carlos!
> And thanks Andrew for your great review/feedback!
>
> Olaf
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
Thanks, Carlos!
And thanks Andrew for your great review/feedback!
Olaf
--
Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Andrew, we most definitely appreciate your feedback. Via PRs or otherwise,
please continue to share your feedback :-)
Personally, I would love to see someone like you 'take over' the website
content.
Thanks,
Om
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> You want me to do a pull request and make changes?
>
> I would prefer to share my observations, as what I see as an error others
> might see as a feature(!).
>
> Here's a Google Doc of edits I suggest for footer, the landing page, and
> the mailing-lists page:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_
> 8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Does that work as a way to share this stuff? If so, I will continue bit by
> bit through the whole site.
>
> I ran documentation teams for about fifteen years for various software
> companies, and was on the receiving end of a lot of irked comments from
> potential customers who found small but distracting mistakes in website or
> help-documentation texts. Since fixing issues like this is nearly free, I
> hope we can do that even if the current text is "good enough" for most
> readers.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
> > https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
> website
> > is being deployed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > thanks for the revision! :)
> > >
> > > If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post directly
> > in
> > > this list, open a new thread
> > > If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something
> like
> > > that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
> > some
> > > > server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> request
> > to
> > > > the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for that! :)
> > > > Piotr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
> > > table
> > > > > (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
> that.
> > > Can
> > > > I
> > > > > just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
> can
> > be
> > > > > > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Excellent.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > someone
> > > > > > handling
> > > > > > > text tweaking?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Virus-free.
> > > > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <3
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
You want me to do a pull request and make changes?
I would prefer to share my observations, as what I see as an error others
might see as a feature(!).
Here's a Google Doc of edits I suggest for footer, the landing page, and
the mailing-lists page:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
Does that work as a way to share this stuff? If so, I will continue bit by
bit through the whole site.
I ran documentation teams for about fifteen years for various software
companies, and was on the receiving end of a lot of irked comments from
potential customers who found small but distracting mistakes in website or
help-documentation texts. Since fixing issues like this is nearly free, I
hope we can do that even if the current text is "good enough" for most
readers.
Andrew
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the website
> is being deployed?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > thanks for the revision! :)
> >
> > If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post directly
> in
> > this list, open a new thread
> > If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something like
> > that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
> some
> > > server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull request
> to
> > > the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > >
> > > Thanks for that! :)
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
> > table
> > > > (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share that.
> > Can
> > > I
> > > > just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > >
> > > > > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it can
> be
> > > > > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Excellent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> someone
> > > > > handling
> > > > > > text tweaking?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Virus-free.
> > > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > <3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >
> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Andrew,
thanks. don't worry since we are doing in a good and comfortable timeframe
for both. So I'll wait for more revision as you can.
Thanks for taking the task of reviewing all content! :)
2018-01-11 19:08 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> Carlos you are doing great work.
>
> I will confirm the updates and continue reviewing as soon as I can. Busy
> day in freelance land over here.
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > I applied your changes and are live.
> >
> > The commit includes:
> >
> > * More corrections to texts provided by Andrew Wetmore
> > * Included SEO
> > * external links opens new browser windows in all pages encouragin users
> to
> > stay in royale website
> > * privacy policy page added
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-01-11 9:49 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Thanks Andrew!, I'll check it today as I get some time
> > >
> > > 2018-01-11 2:22 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> Hi, again:
> > >>
> > >> I added suggestions for the getting-started and get-involved pages.
> Will
> > >> continue to the FAQ page tomorrow.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Andrew,
> > >> >
> > >> > thanks, let me know if there's something more to fix and I'll fix it
> > >> >
> > >> > Best
> > >> >
> > >> > Carlos
> > >> >
> > >> > 2018-01-11 0:05 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Thank you for the quick response, Carlos. Almost all the points I
> > >> raised
> > >> > > have been addressed, and I have marked them as "resolved". I have
> a
> > >> few
> > >> > > more pages to attack, and will report in when there are more
> little
> > >> > tweaks
> > >> > > to look at.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > A.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > >> carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi Om,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > when we started the website I was making some research to see if
> > we
> > >> can
> > >> > > > make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > >> > > > It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> > visual
> > >> as
> > >> > > our
> > >> > > > "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
> > will
> > >> end
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> > etc...
> > >> > > > And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So
> > I'm
> > >> > very
> > >> > > > happy.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy
> way
> > >> to
> > >> > > > update the website and to get blog post and articles published
> (we
> > >> have
> > >> > > > that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
> > >> (and
> > >> > we
> > >> > > > have that with GitHub)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > >> bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> content,
> > >> > > patches
> > >> > > > > and PRs.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
> > >> from
> > >> > > > Github
> > >> > > > > urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/
> > mytory-markdown/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images,
> > etc)
> > >> can
> > >> > > be
> > >> > > > on
> > >> > > > > WP.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thoughts?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Om
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >> >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> > check
> > >> > > things
> > >> > > > > > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced
> all
> > >> > > changes,
> > >> > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and
> > ask
> > >> for
> > >> > > > > > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> > PMCs)
> > >> > > > > > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> > >> process
> > >> > is
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > > :
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > >> > > > > > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> > theme
> > >> > > > updates
> > >> > > > > > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > >> > > > > > 3.- commit and push
> > >> > > > > > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is
> easy
> > to
> > >> > do.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> dave2wave@comcast.net
> > >:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Hi -
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> > content
> > >> > > > updates.
> > >> > > > > > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer
> to
> > >> make
> > >> > > > > > changes.
> > >> > > > > > > At first you will need to periodically do export and
> update.
> > >> > Later
> > >> > > > > either
> > >> > > > > > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > >> > process,
> > >> > > > or
> > >> > > > > > you
> > >> > > > > > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that
> is
> > >> then
> > >> > > > > > published.
> > >> > > > > > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job
> is
> > >> to
> > >> > > > create
> > >> > > > > an
> > >> > > > > > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from
> the
> > >> RSS
> > >> > > feed
> > >> > > > > > into
> > >> > > > > > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > > > > Dave
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Carlos,
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> > >> really
> > >> > > > good.
> > >> > > > > > We
> > >> > > > > > > > could apply them on our self.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > >> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >> > > > >:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >> Hi Om,
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> > through
> > >> > > admin
> > >> > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > then
> > >> > > > > > > >> exported and published.
> > >> > > > > > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> > register
> > >> in
> > >> > WP
> > >> > > > > > backend
> > >> > > > > > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
> > >> some
> > >> > > ways
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > > > do
> > >> > > > > > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > >> > > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > >:
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send
> a
> > >> Pull
> > >> > > > > Request
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/
> royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > >> > > > > > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current
> state
> > of
> > >> > how
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > >> website
> > >> > > > > > > >>> is being deployed?
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > >>> Om
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > >> > > > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list
> > and
> > >> > post
> > >> > > > > > > directly
> > >> > > > > > > >>> in
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a
> PDF
> > >> or
> > >> > > > > something
> > >> > > > > > > >> like
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > >> > > drive...)
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks!
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > > >:
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just
> upload
> > >> that
> > >> > > > file
> > >> > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > >>> some
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
> > >> make
> > >> > > pull
> > >> > > > > > > >> request
> > >> > > > > > > >>> to
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/roya
> > >> le-website/tree/asf-site
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> > >> > > cottage14@gmail.com
> > >> > > > >:
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> > >> prefer
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > create
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> table
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if
> any)
> > >> and
> > >> > > share
> > >> > > > > > > >> that.
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> Can
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > >> > screenshot
> > >> > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > >> can
> > >> > > > > > > >>> be
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-developme
> > >> nt.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > >> > > > > cottage14@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> > >> there.
> > >> > Is
> > >> > > > > > > >>> someone
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> handling
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-emai
> > >> l?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-e
> > >> mail&utm_content=webmail
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-emai
> > >> l?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-e
> > >> mail&utm_content=webmail
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki
> <
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> :
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live
> now!
> > :)
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> --
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > > > > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >> --
> > >> > > > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > > > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > >> > > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > >> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > >> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > >
> > >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Carlos Rovira
> > >> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Andrew Wetmore
> > >>
> > >> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
Carlos you are doing great work.
I will confirm the updates and continue reviewing as soon as I can. Busy
day in freelance land over here.
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I applied your changes and are live.
>
> The commit includes:
>
> * More corrections to texts provided by Andrew Wetmore
> * Included SEO
> * external links opens new browser windows in all pages encouragin users to
> stay in royale website
> * privacy policy page added
>
>
>
> 2018-01-11 9:49 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Thanks Andrew!, I'll check it today as I get some time
> >
> > 2018-01-11 2:22 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Hi, again:
> >>
> >> I added suggestions for the getting-started and get-involved pages. Will
> >> continue to the FAQ page tomorrow.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Andrew,
> >> >
> >> > thanks, let me know if there's something more to fix and I'll fix it
> >> >
> >> > Best
> >> >
> >> > Carlos
> >> >
> >> > 2018-01-11 0:05 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> >> >
> >> > > Thank you for the quick response, Carlos. Almost all the points I
> >> raised
> >> > > have been addressed, and I have marked them as "resolved". I have a
> >> few
> >> > > more pages to attack, and will report in when there are more little
> >> > tweaks
> >> > > to look at.
> >> > >
> >> > > A.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlosrovira@apache.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Om,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > when we started the website I was making some research to see if
> we
> >> can
> >> > > > make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> >> > > > It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> visual
> >> as
> >> > > our
> >> > > > "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
> will
> >> end
> >> > > in
> >> > > > Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> etc...
> >> > > > And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So
> I'm
> >> > very
> >> > > > happy.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way
> >> to
> >> > > > update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we
> >> have
> >> > > > that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
> >> (and
> >> > we
> >> > > > have that with GitHub)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> >> > > patches
> >> > > > > and PRs.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
> >> from
> >> > > > Github
> >> > > > > urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/
> mytory-markdown/
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images,
> etc)
> >> can
> >> > > be
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > > WP.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thoughts?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Om
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> check
> >> > > things
> >> > > > > > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> >> > > changes,
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and
> ask
> >> for
> >> > > > > > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> PMCs)
> >> > > > > > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> >> process
> >> > is
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > :
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> >> > > > > > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> theme
> >> > > > updates
> >> > > > > > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> >> > > > > > 3.- commit and push
> >> > > > > > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy
> to
> >> > do.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
> >:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Hi -
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> content
> >> > > > updates.
> >> > > > > > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
> >> make
> >> > > > > > changes.
> >> > > > > > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> >> > Later
> >> > > > > either
> >> > > > > > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> >> > process,
> >> > > > or
> >> > > > > > you
> >> > > > > > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
> >> then
> >> > > > > > published.
> >> > > > > > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is
> >> to
> >> > > > create
> >> > > > > an
> >> > > > > > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
> >> RSS
> >> > > feed
> >> > > > > > into
> >> > > > > > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > > > Dave
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Carlos,
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> >> really
> >> > > > good.
> >> > > > > > We
> >> > > > > > > > could apply them on our self.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> > > > >:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> Hi Om,
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> through
> >> > > admin
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > then
> >> > > > > > > >> exported and published.
> >> > > > > > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> register
> >> in
> >> > WP
> >> > > > > > backend
> >> > > > > > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
> >> some
> >> > > ways
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > do
> >> > > > > > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> > > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > >:
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
> >> Pull
> >> > > > > Request
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> >> > > > > > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state
> of
> >> > how
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > >> website
> >> > > > > > > >>> is being deployed?
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> Om
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list
> and
> >> > post
> >> > > > > > > directly
> >> > > > > > > >>> in
> >> > > > > > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> >> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF
> >> or
> >> > > > > something
> >> > > > > > > >> like
> >> > > > > > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> >> > > drive...)
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks!
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > >:
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
> >> that
> >> > > > file
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> some
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
> >> make
> >> > > pull
> >> > > > > > > >> request
> >> > > > > > > >>> to
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/roya
> >> le-website/tree/asf-site
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> >> > > cottage14@gmail.com
> >> > > > >:
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> >> prefer
> >> > to
> >> > > > > create
> >> > > > > > > >>>> table
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any)
> >> and
> >> > > share
> >> > > > > > > >> that.
> >> > > > > > > >>>> Can
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> >> > screenshot
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > > > >> can
> >> > > > > > > >>> be
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-developme
> >> nt.20373.n8.nabble.com
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> >> > > > > cottage14@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> >> there.
> >> > Is
> >> > > > > > > >>> someone
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> handling
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-emai
> >> l?utm_medium=email&utm_
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-e
> >> mail&utm_content=webmail
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-emai
> >> l?utm_medium=email&utm_
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-e
> >> mail&utm_content=webmail
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > > > > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> :
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now!
> :)
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> --
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> --
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >> > > > > > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>> --
> >> > > > > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > > > > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >> > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> --
> >> > > > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> >> > > > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >> > > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> >> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Carlos Rovira
> >> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> >> > >
> >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Carlos Rovira
> >> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andrew Wetmore
> >>
> >> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Andrew,
I applied your changes and are live.
The commit includes:
* More corrections to texts provided by Andrew Wetmore
* Included SEO
* external links opens new browser windows in all pages encouragin users to
stay in royale website
* privacy policy page added
2018-01-11 9:49 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Thanks Andrew!, I'll check it today as I get some time
>
> 2018-01-11 2:22 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi, again:
>>
>> I added suggestions for the getting-started and get-involved pages. Will
>> continue to the FAQ page tomorrow.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Andrew,
>> >
>> > thanks, let me know if there's something more to fix and I'll fix it
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > 2018-01-11 0:05 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > > Thank you for the quick response, Carlos. Almost all the points I
>> raised
>> > > have been addressed, and I have marked them as "resolved". I have a
>> few
>> > > more pages to attack, and will report in when there are more little
>> > tweaks
>> > > to look at.
>> > >
>> > > A.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrovira@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Om,
>> > > >
>> > > > when we started the website I was making some research to see if we
>> can
>> > > > make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
>> > > > It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual
>> as
>> > > our
>> > > > "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
>> > > >
>> > > > There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
>> > > >
>> > > > But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will
>> end
>> > > in
>> > > > Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
>> > > > And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm
>> > very
>> > > > happy.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way
>> to
>> > > > update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we
>> have
>> > > > that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
>> (and
>> > we
>> > > > have that with GitHub)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > > > In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
>> > > patches
>> > > > > and PRs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
>> from
>> > > > Github
>> > > > > urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/mytory-markdown/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc)
>> can
>> > > be
>> > > > on
>> > > > > WP.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thoughts?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Om
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrovira@apache.org
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
>> > > things
>> > > > > > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
>> > > changes,
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask
>> for
>> > > > > > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
>> > > > > > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
>> process
>> > is
>> > > > to
>> > > > > :
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
>> > > > > > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
>> > > > updates
>> > > > > > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
>> > > > > > 3.- commit and push
>> > > > > > 4.- wait for automatic publication
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to
>> > do.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi -
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
>> > > > updates.
>> > > > > > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
>> make
>> > > > > > changes.
>> > > > > > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
>> > Later
>> > > > > either
>> > > > > > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
>> > process,
>> > > > or
>> > > > > > you
>> > > > > > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
>> then
>> > > > > > published.
>> > > > > > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is
>> to
>> > > > create
>> > > > > an
>> > > > > > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
>> RSS
>> > > feed
>> > > > > > into
>> > > > > > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > Dave
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Carlos,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
>> really
>> > > > good.
>> > > > > > We
>> > > > > > > > could apply them on our self.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > > >:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> Hi Om,
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
>> > > admin
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > > then
>> > > > > > > >> exported and published.
>> > > > > > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register
>> in
>> > WP
>> > > > > > backend
>> > > > > > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
>> some
>> > > ways
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > do
>> > > > > > > >> that if there's enough interest.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Thanks
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> > > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
>> > > > > > >:
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
>> Pull
>> > > > > Request
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
>> > > > > > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
>> > how
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > >> website
>> > > > > > > >>> is being deployed?
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >>> Om
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> > > > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
>> > post
>> > > > > > > directly
>> > > > > > > >>> in
>> > > > > > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
>> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF
>> or
>> > > > > something
>> > > > > > > >> like
>> > > > > > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
>> > > drive...)
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks!
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > > > > > > >:
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
>> that
>> > > > file
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > >>> some
>> > > > > > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
>> make
>> > > pull
>> > > > > > > >> request
>> > > > > > > >>> to
>> > > > > > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/roya
>> le-website/tree/asf-site
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <
>> > > cottage14@gmail.com
>> > > > >:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
>> prefer
>> > to
>> > > > > create
>> > > > > > > >>>> table
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any)
>> and
>> > > share
>> > > > > > > >> that.
>> > > > > > > >>>> Can
>> > > > > > > >>>>> I
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
>> > screenshot
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > > >> can
>> > > > > > > >>> be
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-developme
>> nt.20373.n8.nabble.com
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
>> > > > > cottage14@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
>> there.
>> > Is
>> > > > > > > >>> someone
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> handling
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-emai
>> l?utm_medium=email&utm_
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-e
>> mail&utm_content=webmail
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-emai
>> l?utm_medium=email&utm_
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-e
>> mail&utm_content=webmail
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <3
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> > > > > > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> :
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> --
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> --
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> > > > > > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> --
>> > > > > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > > > > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> --
>> > > > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
>> > > > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> > > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
>> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Carlos Rovira
>> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Andrew Wetmore
>> > >
>> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Carlos Rovira
>> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Wetmore
>>
>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
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http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Thanks Andrew!, I'll check it today as I get some time
2018-01-11 2:22 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> Hi, again:
>
> I added suggestions for the getting-started and get-involved pages. Will
> continue to the FAQ page tomorrow.
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > thanks, let me know if there's something more to fix and I'll fix it
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > 2018-01-11 0:05 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Thank you for the quick response, Carlos. Almost all the points I
> raised
> > > have been addressed, and I have marked them as "resolved". I have a few
> > > more pages to attack, and will report in when there are more little
> > tweaks
> > > to look at.
> > >
> > > A.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Om,
> > > >
> > > > when we started the website I was making some research to see if we
> can
> > > > make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > > It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual
> as
> > > our
> > > > "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > >
> > > > There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > >
> > > > But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will
> end
> > > in
> > > > Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> > > > And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm
> > very
> > > > happy.
> > > >
> > > > I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
> > > > update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we
> have
> > > > that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and
> > we
> > > > have that with GitHub)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >:
> > > >
> > > > > In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> > > patches
> > > > > and PRs.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
> > > > Github
> > > > > urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/mytory-markdown/
> > > > >
> > > > > This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc)
> can
> > > be
> > > > on
> > > > > WP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Om
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> > > things
> > > > > > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> > > changes,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask
> for
> > > > > > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> > > > > > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> process
> > is
> > > > to
> > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > > > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> > > > updates
> > > > > > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > > > 3.- commit and push
> > > > > > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to
> > do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> > > > updates.
> > > > > > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
> make
> > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> > Later
> > > > > either
> > > > > > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > process,
> > > > or
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
> then
> > > > > > published.
> > > > > > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> > > > create
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
> RSS
> > > feed
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Carlos,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> really
> > > > good.
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > could apply them on our self.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi Om,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> > > admin
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > >> exported and published.
> > > > > > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register
> in
> > WP
> > > > > > backend
> > > > > > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> > > ways
> > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
> Pull
> > > > > Request
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > > > > > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
> > how
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> website
> > > > > > > >>> is being deployed?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>> Om
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
> > post
> > > > > > > directly
> > > > > > > >>> in
> > > > > > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > >> like
> > > > > > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > > drive...)
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
> that
> > > > file
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>> some
> > > > > > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
> > > pull
> > > > > > > >> request
> > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/
> royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > cottage14@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer
> > to
> > > > > create
> > > > > > > >>>> table
> > > > > > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> > > share
> > > > > > > >> that.
> > > > > > > >>>> Can
> > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > screenshot
> > > > it
> > > > > > > >> can
> > > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.
> com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > > cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> there.
> > Is
> > > > > > > >>> someone
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> handling
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
Hi, again:
I added suggestions for the getting-started and get-involved pages. Will
continue to the FAQ page tomorrow.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> thanks, let me know if there's something more to fix and I'll fix it
>
> Best
>
> Carlos
>
> 2018-01-11 0:05 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Thank you for the quick response, Carlos. Almost all the points I raised
> > have been addressed, and I have marked them as "resolved". I have a few
> > more pages to attack, and will report in when there are more little
> tweaks
> > to look at.
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Om,
> > >
> > > when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
> > > make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as
> > our
> > > "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > >
> > > There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > >
> > > But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end
> > in
> > > Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> > > And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm
> very
> > > happy.
> > >
> > > I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
> > > update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
> > > that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and
> we
> > > have that with GitHub)
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> > patches
> > > > and PRs.
> > > >
> > > > There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
> > > Github
> > > > urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/mytory-markdown/
> > > >
> > > > This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can
> > be
> > > on
> > > > WP.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Om
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> > things
> > > > > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> > changes,
> > > > and
> > > > > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > > >
> > > > > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> > > > > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> > > > > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process
> is
> > > to
> > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> > > updates
> > > > > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > > 3.- commit and push
> > > > > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > >
> > > > > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to
> do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> > > updates.
> > > > > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> Later
> > > > either
> > > > > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> process,
> > > or
> > > > > you
> > > > > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> > > > > published.
> > > > > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> > > create
> > > > an
> > > > > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
> > feed
> > > > > into
> > > > > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Carlos,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
> > > good.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > > could apply them on our self.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Om,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> > admin
> > > > and
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > >> exported and published.
> > > > > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in
> WP
> > > > > backend
> > > > > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> > ways
> > > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> > > > Request
> > > > > to
> > > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > > > > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
> how
> > > the
> > > > > > >> website
> > > > > > >>> is being deployed?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>> Om
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
> post
> > > > > > directly
> > > > > > >>> in
> > > > > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> > > > something
> > > > > > >> like
> > > > > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > drive...)
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
> > > file
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>> some
> > > > > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
> > pull
> > > > > > >> request
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > > >>>>> Piotr
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottage14@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer
> to
> > > > create
> > > > > > >>>> table
> > > > > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> > share
> > > > > > >> that.
> > > > > > >>>> Can
> > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> screenshot
> > > it
> > > > > > >> can
> > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there.
> Is
> > > > > > >>> someone
> > > > > > >>>>>>> handling
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Andrew,
thanks, let me know if there's something more to fix and I'll fix it
Best
Carlos
2018-01-11 0:05 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> Thank you for the quick response, Carlos. Almost all the points I raised
> have been addressed, and I have marked them as "resolved". I have a few
> more pages to attack, and will report in when there are more little tweaks
> to look at.
>
> A.
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Om,
> >
> > when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
> > make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as
> our
> > "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> >
> > There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> >
> > But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end
> in
> > Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> > And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very
> > happy.
> >
> > I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
> > update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
> > that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we
> > have that with GitHub)
> >
> >
> > 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> patches
> > > and PRs.
> > >
> > > There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
> > Github
> > > urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/mytory-markdown/
> > >
> > > This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can
> be
> > on
> > > WP.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> things
> > > > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> changes,
> > > and
> > > > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > >
> > > > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> > > > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> > > > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is
> > to
> > > :
> > > >
> > > > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> > updates
> > > > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > 3.- commit and push
> > > > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > >
> > > > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi -
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> > updates.
> > > > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> > > > changes.
> > > > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
> > > either
> > > > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
> > or
> > > > you
> > > > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> > > > published.
> > > > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > >
> > > > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> > create
> > > an
> > > > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
> feed
> > > > into
> > > > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carlos,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
> > good.
> > > > We
> > > > > > could apply them on our self.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Om,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> admin
> > > and
> > > > > then
> > > > > >> exported and published.
> > > > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
> > > > backend
> > > > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> ways
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> > > Request
> > > > to
> > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > > > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
> > the
> > > > > >> website
> > > > > >>> is being deployed?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>> Om
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> > > > > directly
> > > > > >>> in
> > > > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> > > something
> > > > > >> like
> > > > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> drive...)
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
> > file
> > > to
> > > > > >>> some
> > > > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
> pull
> > > > > >> request
> > > > > >>> to
> > > > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > >>>>> Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> cottage14@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
> > > create
> > > > > >>>> table
> > > > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> share
> > > > > >> that.
> > > > > >>>> Can
> > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
> > it
> > > > > >> can
> > > > > >>> be
> > > > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > > > > >>> someone
> > > > > >>>>>>> handling
> > > > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
Thank you for the quick response, Carlos. Almost all the points I raised
have been addressed, and I have marked them as "resolved". I have a few
more pages to attack, and will report in when there are more little tweaks
to look at.
A.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Om,
>
> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our
> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
>
> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
>
> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in
> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very
> happy.
>
> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we
> have that with GitHub)
>
>
> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches
> > and PRs.
> >
> > There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
> Github
> > urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/mytory-markdown/
> >
> > This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can be
> on
> > WP.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Om
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
> > > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes,
> > and
> > > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > >
> > > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> > > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> > > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is
> to
> > :
> > >
> > > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> updates
> > > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > 3.- commit and push
> > > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > >
> > > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > >
> > > > Hi -
> > > >
> > > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> updates.
> > > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> > > changes.
> > > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
> > either
> > > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
> or
> > > you
> > > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> > > published.
> > > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > >
> > > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> create
> > an
> > > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS feed
> > > into
> > > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Carlos,
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
> good.
> > > We
> > > > > could apply them on our self.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Om,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin
> > and
> > > > then
> > > > >> exported and published.
> > > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
> > > backend
> > > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways
> to
> > > do
> > > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> > Request
> > > to
> > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
> the
> > > > >> website
> > > > >>> is being deployed?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>> Om
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> > > > directly
> > > > >>> in
> > > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> > something
> > > > >> like
> > > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
> file
> > to
> > > > >>> some
> > > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> > > > >> request
> > > > >>> to
> > > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > >>>>> Piotr
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottage14@gmail.com
> >:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
> > create
> > > > >>>> table
> > > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
> > > > >> that.
> > > > >>>> Can
> > > > >>>>> I
> > > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
> it
> > > > >> can
> > > > >>> be
> > > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > > > >>> someone
> > > > >>>>>>> handling
> > > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >
> > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Hi Carlos,
>
> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's changes.
>
> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in Royale
> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
Agreed!
>
> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save
> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, IMO,
> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our
> code.
Agreed!
> I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align with
> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing
> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
I disagree. The expectation is that a project is vendor neutral and moving it outside the project would mean the PMC would be offloading it’s responsibility.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Om,
>>
>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our
>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
>>
>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
>>
>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in
>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very
>> happy.
>>
>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we
>> have that with GitHub)
>>
>>
>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches
>>> and PRs.
>>>
>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
>>> Github
>>> urls. For example
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C
>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7
>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyDSDo6aX50kfXkU
>>> %3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can
>>> be on
>>> WP.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Om
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes,
>>> and
>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
>>>>
>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is
>>> to
>>> :
>>>>
>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
>>> updates
>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
>>>> 3.- commit and push
>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
>>>>
>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
>>> updates.
>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
>>>> changes.
>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
>>> either
>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
>>> or
>>>> you
>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
>>>> published.
>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
>>>>>
>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
>>> create
>>> an
>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
>>> feed
>>>> into
>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlos,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
>>> good.
>>>> We
>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Om,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin
>>> and
>>>>> then
>>>>>>> exported and published.
>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
>>>> backend
>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
>>> ways to
>>>> do
>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
>>> Request
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD
>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
>>> the
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
>>> something
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
>>> file
>>> to
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD
>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
>>> create
>>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
>>> share
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
>>> it
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C
>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7
>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3ReH6Vu4f41WSFs
>>> %3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ado
>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dec
>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXcA%2F
>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avast.com&data=02%
>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ado
>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dec
>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXcA%2F
>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63651220757758276
>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>> ed=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>> ed=0>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
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>
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
This is great. I have verified all the fixes and have updated the tracking
document. This task is complete...for now!
a
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Thanks Andrew, I did all changes except one. The one about the digest, I
> took this tables from other apache sites, and in that sites they have this
> tablets with this info. I prefer as well don't insert more info and left it
> clear.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 2018-01-15 22:47 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi, Carlos:
> >
> > There are a few issues still to fix, and I added one that may have been
> > caused by a recent fix.
> >
> > I marked the remaining issues with a ==> indicator in the left-most
> column
> > so you can find them quickly.
> >
> > a
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > I just done this too. Thanks :)
> > >
> > > 2018-01-14 16:04 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > I added a small set of changes for the privacy policy page.
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking about where to record and track tasks for future
> > > > documentation. I see that our project in GitHub has a "documentation"
> > tag
> > > > with no active bug reports. Is that where I should enter, not just
> > > > documentation bug issues, but to-do stuff like "create a blog entry
> on
> > > > TOPIC X"? Or is there some other system for tracking stuff like that?
> > > >
> > > > a
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll integrate your updates. I think I put all of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I added a new favicon with the Royale logo
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-13 1:44 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have added some notes about the FAQ page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as
> > resolved
> > > > all
> > > > > > issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit
> permissions
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > page:
> > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_
> > > > > > 8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the
> > > website.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> > > > > > PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > > > > > > etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and
> compile
> > > > some
> > > > > > > "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > > > > > > playerglobal.swc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website
> that
> > > user
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which
> > > helps
> > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to
> > the
> > > > > > > folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global
> folder}
> > > > > > > - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > > > > > > "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > > > > > > - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Where on the website such information do you think should be
> > > placed ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I
> say,
> > > > this
> > > > > > task
> > > > > > > > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the
> > components
> > > > work
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to
> > > change
> > > > > > > visuals
> > > > > > > > to adapt to what they need!)
> > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> dave2wave@comcast.net
> > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Alex
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui
> > > <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and
> applying
> > > > > Andrew's
> > > > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > thanks for your words :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the
> > website
> > > > done
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > Royale
> > > > > > > > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks
> > expect.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be
> in
> > > the
> > > > > eye
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > people too soon.
> > > > > > > > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way
> of
> > > > > > thinking
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > > > > > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only
> one
> > > > brain
> > > > > ;)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you
> were
> > > able
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > save
> > > > > > > > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together
> for
> > > us.
> > > > > > But,
> > > > > > > > > IMO,
> > > > > > > > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like
> the
> > > > rest
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is
> > going
> > > to
> > > > > > align
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be
> that
> > > the
> > > > > > > > marketing
> > > > > > > > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the
> > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to
> > focus
> > > > on
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > really important.
> > > > > > > > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people
> > expect
> > > > to
> > > > > > see
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > > > > > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web
> > for
> > > > > > another,
> > > > > > > > > it'd
> > > > > > > > > > be a useless work.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale
> > working
> > > > > good,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > people like Royale.
> > > > > > > > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we
> the
> > > > site,
> > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > important task are done.
> > > > > > > > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's
> > > > important
> > > > > > > (first
> > > > > > > > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and
> > > > others)
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > > > > > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this
> > mailing
> > > > > list,
> > > > > > > > > Github,
> > > > > > > > > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > > > > > > > the final result is committed to the
> > Royale-website/asf-site
> > > > > repo.
> > > > > > > > That's
> > > > > > > > > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them,
> > people
> > > > can
> > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > > > > > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations,
> > > layouts
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > more,
> > > > > > > > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > > > > > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and
> more,
> > > > could
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > > > > > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the
> source
> > > you
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > > > > > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or
> less
> > > with
> > > > > > > > notepad.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that,
> we
> > > are
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > Apache Royale!
> > > > > > > > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the
> > same
> > > > > result
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > > > > > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state
> > of
> > > > > royale
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > > > > > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on
> > make
> > > > > > > websites.
> > > > > > > > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > > > > > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could
> bring
> > > us a
> > > > > > > royale
> > > > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > > > > > > > but maybe in the future.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no
> > time,
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > > > > > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and
> test
> > if
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm
> > > doing
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > > > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about
> > > > > content...is
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible
> > > > since,
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > end,
> > > > > > > > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front
> end
> > > > tech
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could
> happen
> > in
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to
> > > reach
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > goal.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I
> don't
> > > > want
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > > > > > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know
> > > what I
> > > > > > > think,
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely
> free
> > to
> > > > do.
> > > > > > > > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub
> > again,
> > > > is
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > focus
> > > > > > > > > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar!
> If
> > > > Royale
> > > > > > > > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >> -Alex
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf
> > of
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > > > > > > Rovira"
> > > > > > > > > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research
> to
> > > see
> > > > > if
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very
> > > limited.
> > > > > > > > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something
> > > more
> > > > > > visual
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very
> > limited.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with
> markdown.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the
> visitors
> > > > that
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > end in
> > > > > > > > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues
> > > page,
> > > > > > etc...
> > > > > > > > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from
> > > GitHub.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > >>> happy.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives
> an
> > > > easy
> > > > > > way
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles
> > > > published
> > > > > > (we
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference
> > and
> > > > > Docs
> > > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors
> provide
> > > > > content,
> > > > > > > > > patches
> > > > > > > > > >>>> and PRs.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read
> markdown
> > > > files
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Github
> > > > > > > > > >>>> urls. For example
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > > > > > > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%
> > > 7Caharui%
> > > > > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > > > > > > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > > > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles,
> > > images,
> > > > > > etc)
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > >>>> be on
> > > > > > > > > >>>> WP.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Om
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in
> order
> > to
> > > > > check
> > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I
> > introduced
> > > > all
> > > > > > > > > changes,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic
> > publication
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make
> changes
> > > and
> > > > > ask
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct
> (committers
> > > and
> > > > > > PMCs)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult
> since
> > > the
> > > > > > > process
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> :
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static
> version)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have
> content
> > > or
> > > > > > theme
> > > > > > > > > >>>> updates
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so
> > on)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but
> > is
> > > > easy
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > do.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> > > > > dave2wave@comcast.net
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on
> the
> > > > > content
> > > > > > > > > >>>> updates.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are
> > content.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any
> > > committer
> > > > to
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> changes.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and
> > > > update.
> > > > > > > Later
> > > > > > > > > >>>> either
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a
> > > build
> > > > > > > > process,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> or
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> you
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> published.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my
> former
> > > job
> > > > is
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > > > > >>>> an
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > RSS
> > > > > > > > > >>>> feed
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> into
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve
> > > metadata.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Dave
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think
> they
> > > are
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > >>>> good.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> We
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in
> WP
> > > > > through
> > > > > > > > admin
> > > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> then
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be
> possible.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> > > > register
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > WP
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> backend
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think
> > > there's
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ways to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to
> > > send a
> > > > > > Pull
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Request
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current
> > > state
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a
> > > list
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > post
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> directly
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can
> upload
> > a
> > > > PDF
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > >>>> something
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> like
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox,
> > > google
> > > > > > > > drive...)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just
> > > > upload
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can
> > > also
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > > pull
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> request
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > > > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I
> > would
> > > > > prefer
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes
> if
> > > any)
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> share
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this
> > list?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr
> Zarzycki
> > <
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send
> > some
> > > > > > > screenshot
> > > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > > > > > > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%
> > > 7Caharui%
> > > > > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > > > > > > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > > > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > > > > > > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here
> > and
> > > > > > there.
> > > > > > > Is
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_
> medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > > > > > > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > > > > > > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > > > > > > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_
> medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr
> > > Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is
> live
> > > now!
> > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> > > 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> > > 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > > > > > > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > > > > > > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > > > > > > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >
> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Thanks Andrew, I did all changes except one. The one about the digest, I
took this tables from other apache sites, and in that sites they have this
tablets with this info. I prefer as well don't insert more info and left it
clear.
Thanks!
2018-01-15 22:47 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> Hi, Carlos:
>
> There are a few issues still to fix, and I added one that may have been
> caused by a recent fix.
>
> I marked the remaining issues with a ==> indicator in the left-most column
> so you can find them quickly.
>
> a
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > I just done this too. Thanks :)
> >
> > 2018-01-14 16:04 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > I added a small set of changes for the privacy policy page.
> > >
> > > I am thinking about where to record and track tasks for future
> > > documentation. I see that our project in GitHub has a "documentation"
> tag
> > > with no active bug reports. Is that where I should enter, not just
> > > documentation bug issues, but to-do stuff like "create a blog entry on
> > > TOPIC X"? Or is there some other system for tracking stuff like that?
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > I'll integrate your updates. I think I put all of them.
> > > >
> > > > I added a new favicon with the Royale logo
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-13 1:44 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > I have added some notes about the FAQ page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as
> resolved
> > > all
> > > > > issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit permissions
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > page:
> > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_
> > > > > 8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the
> > website.
> > > > If
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> > > > > PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > > > > > etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile
> > > some
> > > > > > "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > > > > > playerglobal.swc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that
> > user
> > > > > have
> > > > > > to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which
> > helps
> > > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > > that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to
> the
> > > > > > folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > > > > > - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > > > > > "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > > > > > - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where on the website such information do you think should be
> > placed ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say,
> > > this
> > > > > task
> > > > > > > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the
> components
> > > work
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to
> > change
> > > > > > visuals
> > > > > > > to adapt to what they need!)
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
> >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Alex
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui
> > <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying
> > > > Andrew's
> > > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thanks for your words :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the
> website
> > > done
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > Royale
> > > > > > > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks
> expect.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in
> > the
> > > > eye
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > people too soon.
> > > > > > > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> > > > > thinking
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > > > > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one
> > > brain
> > > > ;)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were
> > able
> > > > to
> > > > > > save
> > > > > > > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for
> > us.
> > > > > But,
> > > > > > > > IMO,
> > > > > > > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the
> > > rest
> > > > of
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is
> going
> > to
> > > > > align
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that
> > the
> > > > > > > marketing
> > > > > > > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the
> > > project.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to
> focus
> > > on
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > really important.
> > > > > > > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people
> expect
> > > to
> > > > > see
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > > > > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web
> for
> > > > > another,
> > > > > > > > it'd
> > > > > > > > > be a useless work.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale
> working
> > > > good,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > people like Royale.
> > > > > > > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the
> > > site,
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > important task are done.
> > > > > > > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's
> > > important
> > > > > > (first
> > > > > > > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and
> > > others)
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > > > > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this
> mailing
> > > > list,
> > > > > > > > Github,
> > > > > > > > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > > > > > > the final result is committed to the
> Royale-website/asf-site
> > > > repo.
> > > > > > > That's
> > > > > > > > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them,
> people
> > > can
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > > > > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations,
> > layouts
> > > > and
> > > > > > > more,
> > > > > > > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > > > > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more,
> > > could
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > > > > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source
> > you
> > > > make
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > > > > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less
> > with
> > > > > > > notepad.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we
> > are
> > > > here
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > Apache Royale!
> > > > > > > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the
> same
> > > > result
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > > > > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state
> of
> > > > royale
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > > > > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on
> make
> > > > > > websites.
> > > > > > > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > > > > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring
> > us a
> > > > > > royale
> > > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > > > > > > but maybe in the future.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no
> time,
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > > > > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm
> > doing
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about
> > > > content...is
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible
> > > since,
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > end,
> > > > > > > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end
> > > tech
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen
> in
> > > > some
> > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to
> > reach
> > > > that
> > > > > > > goal.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't
> > > want
> > > > > you
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > > > > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know
> > what I
> > > > > > think,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free
> to
> > > do.
> > > > > > > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub
> again,
> > > is
> > > > to
> > > > > > > focus
> > > > > > > > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If
> > > Royale
> > > > > > > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >> -Alex
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf
> of
> > > > Carlos
> > > > > > > > Rovira"
> > > > > > > > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to
> > see
> > > > if
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very
> > limited.
> > > > > > > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something
> > more
> > > > > visual
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very
> limited.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors
> > > that
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > end in
> > > > > > > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues
> > page,
> > > > > etc...
> > > > > > > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from
> > GitHub.
> > > > So
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > >>> happy.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an
> > > easy
> > > > > way
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles
> > > published
> > > > > (we
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference
> and
> > > > Docs
> > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> > > > content,
> > > > > > > > patches
> > > > > > > > >>>> and PRs.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown
> > > files
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >>>> Github
> > > > > > > > >>>> urls. For example
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > > > > > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%
> > 7Caharui%
> > > > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > > > > > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles,
> > images,
> > > > > etc)
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > >>>> be on
> > > > > > > > >>>> WP.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Om
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order
> to
> > > > check
> > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I
> introduced
> > > all
> > > > > > > > changes,
> > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic
> publication
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes
> > and
> > > > ask
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers
> > and
> > > > > PMCs)
> > > > > > > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since
> > the
> > > > > > process
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content
> > or
> > > > > theme
> > > > > > > > >>>> updates
> > > > > > > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so
> on)
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but
> is
> > > easy
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > do.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> > > > dave2wave@comcast.net
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> > > > content
> > > > > > > > >>>> updates.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are
> content.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any
> > committer
> > > to
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > >>>>> changes.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and
> > > update.
> > > > > > Later
> > > > > > > > >>>> either
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a
> > build
> > > > > > > process,
> > > > > > > > >>>> or
> > > > > > > > >>>>> you
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site
> that
> > > is
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > > >>>>> published.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former
> > job
> > > is
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > > > >>>> an
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates
> from
> > > the
> > > > > RSS
> > > > > > > > >>>> feed
> > > > > > > > >>>>> into
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve
> > metadata.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Dave
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they
> > are
> > > > > really
> > > > > > > > >>>> good.
> > > > > > > > >>>>> We
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> > > > through
> > > > > > > admin
> > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> then
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> > > register
> > > > > in
> > > > > > WP
> > > > > > > > >>>>> backend
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think
> > there's
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > >>>> ways to
> > > > > > > > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > > > > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to
> > send a
> > > > > Pull
> > > > > > > > >>>> Request
> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current
> > state
> > > > of
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a
> > list
> > > > and
> > > > > > post
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> directly
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload
> a
> > > PDF
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > >>>> something
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> like
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox,
> > google
> > > > > > > drive...)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just
> > > upload
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can
> > also
> > > > make
> > > > > > > pull
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> request
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I
> would
> > > > prefer
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if
> > any)
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> share
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this
> list?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki
> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send
> some
> > > > > > screenshot
> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > > > > > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%
> > 7Caharui%
> > > > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > > > > > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > > > > > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here
> and
> > > > > there.
> > > > > > Is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > > > > > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > > > > > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > > > > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > > > > > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > > > > > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr
> > Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live
> > now!
> > > > :)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> > 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> > 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > > > > > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > > > > > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > > > > > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Carlos:
There are a few issues still to fix, and I added one that may have been
caused by a recent fix.
I marked the remaining issues with a ==> indicator in the left-most column
so you can find them quickly.
a
On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I just done this too. Thanks :)
>
> 2018-01-14 16:04 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I added a small set of changes for the privacy policy page.
> >
> > I am thinking about where to record and track tasks for future
> > documentation. I see that our project in GitHub has a "documentation" tag
> > with no active bug reports. Is that where I should enter, not just
> > documentation bug issues, but to-do stuff like "create a blog entry on
> > TOPIC X"? Or is there some other system for tracking stuff like that?
> >
> > a
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > I'll integrate your updates. I think I put all of them.
> > >
> > > I added a new favicon with the Royale logo
> > >
> > > Thanks again! :)
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-01-13 1:44 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > I have added some notes about the FAQ page.
> > > >
> > > > Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as resolved
> > all
> > > > issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit permissions
> to
> > > the
> > > > page:
> > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_
> > > > 8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
> > > >
> > > > a
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the
> website.
> > > If
> > > > I
> > > > > have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> > > > PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > > > > etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile
> > some
> > > > > "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > > > > playerglobal.swc.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that
> user
> > > > have
> > > > > to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which
> helps
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > > > >
> > > > > - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> > > > > folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > > > > - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > > > > "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > > > > - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > > > >
> > > > > Where on the website such information do you think should be
> placed ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say,
> > this
> > > > task
> > > > > > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components
> > work
> > > > as
> > > > > > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to
> change
> > > > > visuals
> > > > > > to adapt to what they need!)
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Alex
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui
> <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying
> > > Andrew's
> > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks for your words :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website
> > done
> > > > in
> > > > > > > Royale
> > > > > > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in
> the
> > > eye
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > people too soon.
> > > > > > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> > > > thinking
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > > > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one
> > brain
> > > ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were
> able
> > > to
> > > > > save
> > > > > > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for
> us.
> > > > But,
> > > > > > > IMO,
> > > > > > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the
> > rest
> > > of
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going
> to
> > > > align
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that
> the
> > > > > > marketing
> > > > > > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the
> > project.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus
> > on
> > > > what
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > really important.
> > > > > > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect
> > to
> > > > see
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > > > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> > > > another,
> > > > > > > it'd
> > > > > > > > be a useless work.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working
> > > good,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > people like Royale.
> > > > > > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the
> > site,
> > > > > since
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > important task are done.
> > > > > > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's
> > important
> > > > > (first
> > > > > > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and
> > others)
> > > > to
> > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > > > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing
> > > list,
> > > > > > > Github,
> > > > > > > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > > > > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site
> > > repo.
> > > > > > That's
> > > > > > > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people
> > can
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > > > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations,
> layouts
> > > and
> > > > > > more,
> > > > > > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > > > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more,
> > could
> > > > be
> > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > > > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source
> you
> > > make
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > > > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less
> with
> > > > > > notepad.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we
> are
> > > here
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > Apache Royale!
> > > > > > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same
> > > result
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > > > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of
> > > royale
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > > > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> > > > > websites.
> > > > > > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > > > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring
> us a
> > > > > royale
> > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > > > > > but maybe in the future.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> > > > thanks
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > > > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if
> > > that
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm
> doing
> > > with
> > > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about
> > > content...is
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible
> > since,
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > end,
> > > > > > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end
> > tech
> > > > that
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in
> > > some
> > > > > > years
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to
> reach
> > > that
> > > > > > goal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't
> > want
> > > > you
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > > > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know
> what I
> > > > > think,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to
> > do.
> > > > > > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again,
> > is
> > > to
> > > > > > focus
> > > > > > > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If
> > Royale
> > > > > > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >> -Alex
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> > > Carlos
> > > > > > > Rovira"
> > > > > > > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to
> see
> > > if
> > > > we
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very
> limited.
> > > > > > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something
> more
> > > > visual
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors
> > that
> > > > will
> > > > > > > end in
> > > > > > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues
> page,
> > > > etc...
> > > > > > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from
> GitHub.
> > > So
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > >>> happy.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an
> > easy
> > > > way
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles
> > published
> > > > (we
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and
> > > Docs
> > > > > (and
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> > > content,
> > > > > > > patches
> > > > > > > >>>> and PRs.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown
> > files
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > >>>> Github
> > > > > > > >>>> urls. For example
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > > > > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%
> 7Caharui%
> > > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > > > > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles,
> images,
> > > > etc)
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > >>>> be on
> > > > > > > >>>> WP.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Om
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> > > check
> > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced
> > all
> > > > > > > changes,
> > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes
> and
> > > ask
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers
> and
> > > > PMCs)
> > > > > > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since
> the
> > > > > process
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > > > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content
> or
> > > > theme
> > > > > > > >>>> updates
> > > > > > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > > > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > > > > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is
> > easy
> > > > to
> > > > > > do.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> > > dave2wave@comcast.net
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> > > content
> > > > > > > >>>> updates.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any
> committer
> > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > >>>>> changes.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and
> > update.
> > > > > Later
> > > > > > > >>>> either
> > > > > > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a
> build
> > > > > > process,
> > > > > > > >>>> or
> > > > > > > >>>>> you
> > > > > > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that
> > is
> > > > then
> > > > > > > >>>>> published.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former
> job
> > is
> > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > > >>>> an
> > > > > > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from
> > the
> > > > RSS
> > > > > > > >>>> feed
> > > > > > > >>>>> into
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve
> metadata.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Dave
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they
> are
> > > > really
> > > > > > > >>>> good.
> > > > > > > >>>>> We
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> > > through
> > > > > > admin
> > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>> then
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> > register
> > > > in
> > > > > WP
> > > > > > > >>>>> backend
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think
> there's
> > > some
> > > > > > > >>>> ways to
> > > > > > > >>>>> do
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > > > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to
> send a
> > > > Pull
> > > > > > > >>>> Request
> > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current
> state
> > > of
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a
> list
> > > and
> > > > > post
> > > > > > > >>>>>> directly
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a
> > PDF
> > > or
> > > > > > > >>>> something
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> like
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox,
> google
> > > > > > drive...)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just
> > upload
> > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can
> also
> > > make
> > > > > > pull
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> request
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> > > prefer
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if
> any)
> > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> share
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > > > > screenshot
> > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > > > > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%
> 7Caharui%
> > > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > > > > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > > > > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> > > > there.
> > > > > Is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > > > > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > > > > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > > > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > > > > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > > > > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr
> Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live
> now!
> > > :)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > > > > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > > > > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > > > > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >
> > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >
> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Andrew,
I just done this too. Thanks :)
2018-01-14 16:04 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> I added a small set of changes for the privacy policy page.
>
> I am thinking about where to record and track tasks for future
> documentation. I see that our project in GitHub has a "documentation" tag
> with no active bug reports. Is that where I should enter, not just
> documentation bug issues, but to-do stuff like "create a blog entry on
> TOPIC X"? Or is there some other system for tracking stuff like that?
>
> a
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > I'll integrate your updates. I think I put all of them.
> >
> > I added a new favicon with the Royale logo
> >
> > Thanks again! :)
> >
> >
> > 2018-01-13 1:44 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > I have added some notes about the FAQ page.
> > >
> > > Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as resolved
> all
> > > issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit permissions to
> > the
> > > page:
> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_
> > > 8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Guys,
> > > >
> > > > There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website.
> > If
> > > I
> > > > have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> > > PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > > > etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile
> some
> > > > "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > > > playerglobal.swc.
> > > >
> > > > That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user
> > > have
> > > > to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps
> to
> > > do
> > > > that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > > >
> > > > - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> > > > folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > > > - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > > > "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > > > - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > > >
> > > > Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > >
> > > > > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say,
> this
> > > task
> > > > > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components
> work
> > > as
> > > > > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
> > > > visuals
> > > > > to adapt to what they need!)
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Alex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying
> > Andrew's
> > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks for your words :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website
> done
> > > in
> > > > > > Royale
> > > > > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the
> > eye
> > > of
> > > > > > > people too soon.
> > > > > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> > > thinking
> > > > of
> > > > > > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one
> brain
> > ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able
> > to
> > > > save
> > > > > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us.
> > > But,
> > > > > > IMO,
> > > > > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the
> rest
> > of
> > > > our
> > > > > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to
> > > align
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> > > > > marketing
> > > > > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the
> project.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus
> on
> > > what
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > really important.
> > > > > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect
> to
> > > see
> > > > in
> > > > > > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> > > another,
> > > > > > it'd
> > > > > > > be a useless work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working
> > good,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > people like Royale.
> > > > > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the
> site,
> > > > since
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > important task are done.
> > > > > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's
> important
> > > > (first
> > > > > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and
> others)
> > > to
> > > > > help
> > > > > > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing
> > list,
> > > > > > Github,
> > > > > > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > > > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site
> > repo.
> > > > > That's
> > > > > > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people
> can
> > > > still
> > > > > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts
> > and
> > > > > more,
> > > > > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more,
> could
> > > be
> > > > > done
> > > > > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you
> > make
> > > > in
> > > > > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> > > > > notepad.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are
> > here
> > > > to
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > > Apache Royale!
> > > > > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same
> > result
> > > > we
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of
> > royale
> > > > to
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> > > > websites.
> > > > > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
> > > > royale
> > > > > > web
> > > > > > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > > > > but maybe in the future.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> > > thanks
> > > > to
> > > > > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if
> > that
> > > > > works
> > > > > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing
> > with
> > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about
> > content...is
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible
> since,
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > end,
> > > > > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end
> tech
> > > that
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in
> > some
> > > > > years
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach
> > that
> > > > > goal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't
> want
> > > you
> > > > to
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
> > > > think,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to
> do.
> > > > > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again,
> is
> > to
> > > > > focus
> > > > > > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If
> Royale
> > > > > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > >> -Alex
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> > Carlos
> > > > > > Rovira"
> > > > > > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see
> > if
> > > we
> > > > > can
> > > > > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > > > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> > > visual
> > > > > as
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors
> that
> > > will
> > > > > > end in
> > > > > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> > > etc...
> > > > > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub.
> > So
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > >>> happy.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an
> easy
> > > way
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles
> published
> > > (we
> > > > > have
> > > > > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and
> > Docs
> > > > (and
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> > content,
> > > > > > patches
> > > > > > >>>> and PRs.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown
> files
> > > > from
> > > > > > >>>> Github
> > > > > > >>>> urls. For example
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > > > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > > > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images,
> > > etc)
> > > > > can
> > > > > > >>>> be on
> > > > > > >>>> WP.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Om
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> > check
> > > > > > things
> > > > > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced
> all
> > > > > > changes,
> > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and
> > ask
> > > > for
> > > > > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> > > PMCs)
> > > > > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> > > > process
> > > > > is
> > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > >>>> :
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> > > theme
> > > > > > >>>> updates
> > > > > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > > > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is
> easy
> > > to
> > > > > do.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> > dave2wave@comcast.net
> > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> > content
> > > > > > >>>> updates.
> > > > > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer
> to
> > > > make
> > > > > > >>>>> changes.
> > > > > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and
> update.
> > > > Later
> > > > > > >>>> either
> > > > > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > > > > process,
> > > > > > >>>> or
> > > > > > >>>>> you
> > > > > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that
> is
> > > then
> > > > > > >>>>> published.
> > > > > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job
> is
> > > to
> > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > >>>> an
> > > > > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from
> the
> > > RSS
> > > > > > >>>> feed
> > > > > > >>>>> into
> > > > > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > >>>>>> Dave
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> > > really
> > > > > > >>>> good.
> > > > > > >>>>> We
> > > > > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> > through
> > > > > admin
> > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>> then
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> register
> > > in
> > > > WP
> > > > > > >>>>> backend
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
> > some
> > > > > > >>>> ways to
> > > > > > >>>>> do
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
> > > Pull
> > > > > > >>>> Request
> > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state
> > of
> > > > how
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list
> > and
> > > > post
> > > > > > >>>>>> directly
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a
> PDF
> > or
> > > > > > >>>> something
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> like
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > > > > drive...)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>> :
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just
> upload
> > > that
> > > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
> > make
> > > > > pull
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> request
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > > >> mD
> > > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> > prefer
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any)
> > and
> > > > > > >>>> share
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > > > screenshot
> > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > > > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > > > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > > > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> > > there.
> > > > Is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > > > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > > > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > > > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > > > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> c
> > > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now!
> > :)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > > reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > > > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > > > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > > > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
I added a small set of changes for the privacy policy page.
I am thinking about where to record and track tasks for future
documentation. I see that our project in GitHub has a "documentation" tag
with no active bug reports. Is that where I should enter, not just
documentation bug issues, but to-do stuff like "create a blog entry on
TOPIC X"? Or is there some other system for tracking stuff like that?
a
On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I'll integrate your updates. I think I put all of them.
>
> I added a new favicon with the Royale logo
>
> Thanks again! :)
>
>
> 2018-01-13 1:44 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I have added some notes about the FAQ page.
> >
> > Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as resolved all
> > issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit permissions to
> the
> > page:
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_
> > 8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > a
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website.
> If
> > I
> > > have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> > PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > > etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
> > > "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > > playerglobal.swc.
> > >
> > > That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user
> > have
> > > to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to
> > do
> > > that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > >
> > > - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> > > folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > > - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > > "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > > - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > >
> > > Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > >
> > > > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this
> > task
> > > > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work
> > as
> > > > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
> > > visuals
> > > > to adapt to what they need!)
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi -
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Alex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying
> Andrew's
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks for your words :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done
> > in
> > > > > Royale
> > > > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the
> eye
> > of
> > > > > > people too soon.
> > > > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> > thinking
> > > of
> > > > > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain
> ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able
> to
> > > save
> > > > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us.
> > But,
> > > > > IMO,
> > > > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest
> of
> > > our
> > > > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to
> > align
> > > > > with
> > > > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> > > > marketing
> > > > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on
> > what
> > > > is
> > > > > > really important.
> > > > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to
> > see
> > > in
> > > > > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> > another,
> > > > > it'd
> > > > > > be a useless work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working
> good,
> > > and
> > > > > > people like Royale.
> > > > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site,
> > > since
> > > > > the
> > > > > > important task are done.
> > > > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important
> > > (first
> > > > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others)
> > to
> > > > help
> > > > > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing
> list,
> > > > > Github,
> > > > > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site
> repo.
> > > > That's
> > > > > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can
> > > still
> > > > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts
> and
> > > > more,
> > > > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could
> > be
> > > > done
> > > > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you
> make
> > > in
> > > > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> > > > notepad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are
> here
> > > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > Apache Royale!
> > > > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same
> result
> > > we
> > > > > have
> > > > > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of
> royale
> > > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> > > websites.
> > > > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
> > > royale
> > > > > web
> > > > > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > > > but maybe in the future.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> > thanks
> > > to
> > > > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if
> that
> > > > works
> > > > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing
> with
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about
> content...is
> > > > about
> > > > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since,
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > end,
> > > > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech
> > that
> > > > in
> > > > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in
> some
> > > > years
> > > > > if
> > > > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach
> that
> > > > goal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want
> > you
> > > to
> > > > > try
> > > > > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
> > > think,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> > > > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is
> to
> > > > focus
> > > > > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
> > > > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> -Alex
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> Carlos
> > > > > Rovira"
> > > > > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see
> if
> > we
> > > > can
> > > > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> > visual
> > > > as
> > > > > our
> > > > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
> > will
> > > > > end in
> > > > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> > etc...
> > > > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub.
> So
> > > I'm
> > > > > very
> > > > > >>> happy.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy
> > way
> > > to
> > > > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published
> > (we
> > > > have
> > > > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and
> Docs
> > > (and
> > > > > we
> > > > > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> content,
> > > > > patches
> > > > > >>>> and PRs.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
> > > from
> > > > > >>>> Github
> > > > > >>>> urls. For example
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images,
> > etc)
> > > > can
> > > > > >>>> be on
> > > > > >>>> WP.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Om
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> check
> > > > > things
> > > > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> > > > > changes,
> > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and
> ask
> > > for
> > > > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> > PMCs)
> > > > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> > > process
> > > > is
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> > theme
> > > > > >>>> updates
> > > > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy
> > to
> > > > do.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> dave2wave@comcast.net
> > >:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> content
> > > > > >>>> updates.
> > > > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
> > > make
> > > > > >>>>> changes.
> > > > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> > > Later
> > > > > >>>> either
> > > > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > > > process,
> > > > > >>>> or
> > > > > >>>>> you
> > > > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
> > then
> > > > > >>>>> published.
> > > > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is
> > to
> > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > >>>> an
> > > > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
> > RSS
> > > > > >>>> feed
> > > > > >>>>> into
> > > > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>> Dave
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> > really
> > > > > >>>> good.
> > > > > >>>>> We
> > > > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> through
> > > > admin
> > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > >>>>>> then
> > > > > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register
> > in
> > > WP
> > > > > >>>>> backend
> > > > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
> some
> > > > > >>>> ways to
> > > > > >>>>> do
> > > > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
> > Pull
> > > > > >>>> Request
> > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > >> mD
> > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state
> of
> > > how
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list
> and
> > > post
> > > > > >>>>>> directly
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF
> or
> > > > > >>>> something
> > > > > >>>>>>>> like
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > > > drive...)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
> > that
> > > > > >>>> file
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
> make
> > > > pull
> > > > > >>>>>>>> request
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > > >> mD
> > > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> prefer
> > > to
> > > > > >>>> create
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any)
> and
> > > > > >>>> share
> > > > > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > > screenshot
> > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7C
> > > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> > there.
> > > Is
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> c
> > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> c
> > > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > > >> A%2F
> > > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now!
> :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --
> > > > > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Andrew,
I'll integrate your updates. I think I put all of them.
I added a new favicon with the Royale logo
Thanks again! :)
2018-01-13 1:44 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> I have added some notes about the FAQ page.
>
> Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as resolved all
> issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit permissions to the
> page:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_
> 8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
>
> a
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website. If
> I
> > have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
> > "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > playerglobal.swc.
> >
> > That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user
> have
> > to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to
> do
> > that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> >
> > - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> > folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> >
> > Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
> >
> > Thanks, Piotr
> >
> >
> > 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this
> task
> > > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work
> as
> > > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
> > visuals
> > > to adapt to what they need!)
> > > :)
> > >
> > > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > >
> > > > Hi -
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Alex
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's
> > > > changes.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for your words :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done
> in
> > > > Royale
> > > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye
> of
> > > > > people too soon.
> > > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> thinking
> > of
> > > > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to
> > save
> > > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us.
> But,
> > > > IMO,
> > > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of
> > our
> > > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to
> align
> > > > with
> > > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> > > marketing
> > > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on
> what
> > > is
> > > > > really important.
> > > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to
> see
> > in
> > > > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> another,
> > > > it'd
> > > > > be a useless work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good,
> > and
> > > > > people like Royale.
> > > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site,
> > since
> > > > the
> > > > > important task are done.
> > > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important
> > (first
> > > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > > >
> > > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others)
> to
> > > help
> > > > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list,
> > > > Github,
> > > > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo.
> > > That's
> > > > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can
> > still
> > > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and
> > > more,
> > > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could
> be
> > > done
> > > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make
> > in
> > > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> > > notepad.
> > > > >
> > > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > > Apache Royale!
> > > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result
> > we
> > > > have
> > > > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> > websites.
> > > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
> > royale
> > > > web
> > > > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > > but maybe in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> thanks
> > to
> > > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that
> > > works
> > > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with
> > > > Andrew
> > > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is
> > > about
> > > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in
> > the
> > > > > end,
> > > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech
> that
> > > in
> > > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some
> > > years
> > > > if
> > > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that
> > > goal.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want
> you
> > to
> > > > try
> > > > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
> > think,
> > > > but
> > > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> > > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to
> > > focus
> > > > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > >
> > > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
> > > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> -Alex
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> > > > Rovira"
> > > > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if
> we
> > > can
> > > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> visual
> > > as
> > > > our
> > > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
> will
> > > > end in
> > > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> etc...
> > > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So
> > I'm
> > > > very
> > > > >>> happy.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy
> way
> > to
> > > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published
> (we
> > > have
> > > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
> > (and
> > > > we
> > > > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> > > > patches
> > > > >>>> and PRs.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
> > from
> > > > >>>> Github
> > > > >>>> urls. For example
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7C
> > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images,
> etc)
> > > can
> > > > >>>> be on
> > > > >>>> WP.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Om
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> > > > things
> > > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> > > > changes,
> > > > >>>> and
> > > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask
> > for
> > > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> PMCs)
> > > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> > process
> > > is
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>> :
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> theme
> > > > >>>> updates
> > > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy
> to
> > > do.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
> >:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> > > > >>>> updates.
> > > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
> > make
> > > > >>>>> changes.
> > > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> > Later
> > > > >>>> either
> > > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > > process,
> > > > >>>> or
> > > > >>>>> you
> > > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
> then
> > > > >>>>> published.
> > > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is
> to
> > > > >>>> create
> > > > >>>> an
> > > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
> RSS
> > > > >>>> feed
> > > > >>>>> into
> > > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > >>>>>> Dave
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> really
> > > > >>>> good.
> > > > >>>>> We
> > > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> > > admin
> > > > >>>> and
> > > > >>>>>> then
> > > > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register
> in
> > WP
> > > > >>>>> backend
> > > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> > > > >>>> ways to
> > > > >>>>> do
> > > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>> :
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
> Pull
> > > > >>>> Request
> > > > >>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > >> mD
> > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
> > how
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
> > post
> > > > >>>>>> directly
> > > > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> > > > >>>> something
> > > > >>>>>>>> like
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > > drive...)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>> :
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
> that
> > > > >>>> file
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
> > > pull
> > > > >>>>>>>> request
> > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > >> mD
> > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer
> > to
> > > > >>>> create
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> > > > >>>> share
> > > > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > screenshot
> > > > >>>> it
> > > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > > 40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7C
> > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> there.
> > Is
> > > > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> c
> > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > >> A%2F
> > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> c
> > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > >> A%2F
> > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >>>> ed=0
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> --
> > > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
I have added some notes about the FAQ page.
Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as resolved all
issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit permissions to the
page:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
a
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Guys,
>
> There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website. If I
> have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
> "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> playerglobal.swc.
>
> That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user have
> to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to do
> that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
>
> - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
>
> Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
>
> 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this task
> > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work as
> > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
> visuals
> > to adapt to what they need!)
> > :)
> >
> > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> >
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Alex
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > >>
> > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's
> > > changes.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > thanks for your words :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in
> > > Royale
> > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye of
> > > > people too soon.
> > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of thinking
> of
> > > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to
> save
> > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But,
> > > IMO,
> > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of
> our
> > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align
> > > with
> > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> > marketing
> > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on what
> > is
> > > > really important.
> > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to see
> in
> > > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for another,
> > > it'd
> > > > be a useless work.
> > > >
> > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good,
> and
> > > > people like Royale.
> > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site,
> since
> > > the
> > > > important task are done.
> > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important
> (first
> > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > >
> > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to
> > help
> > > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list,
> > > Github,
> > > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo.
> > That's
> > > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > >
> > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can
> still
> > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and
> > more,
> > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be
> > done
> > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make
> in
> > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> > notepad.
> > > >
> > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here
> to
> > > make
> > > > Apache Royale!
> > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result
> we
> > > have
> > > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale
> to
> > > make
> > > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> websites.
> > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
> royale
> > > web
> > > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > but maybe in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time, thanks
> to
> > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that
> > works
> > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with
> > > Andrew
> > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is
> > about
> > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in
> the
> > > > end,
> > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech that
> > in
> > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some
> > years
> > > if
> > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that
> > goal.
> > > >
> > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want you
> to
> > > try
> > > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
> think,
> > > but
> > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to
> > focus
> > > > on themeing and UI set.
> > >
> > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
> > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> -Alex
> > > >>
> > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> > > Rovira"
> > > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we
> > can
> > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual
> > as
> > > our
> > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will
> > > end in
> > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So
> I'm
> > > very
> > > >>> happy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way
> to
> > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we
> > have
> > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
> (and
> > > we
> > > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> > > patches
> > > >>>> and PRs.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
> from
> > > >>>> Github
> > > >>>> urls. For example
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > >> %7C
> > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc)
> > can
> > > >>>> be on
> > > >>>> WP.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Om
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> > > things
> > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> > > changes,
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask
> for
> > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> process
> > is
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> :
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> > > >>>> updates
> > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to
> > do.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> > > >>>> updates.
> > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
> make
> > > >>>>> changes.
> > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> Later
> > > >>>> either
> > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > process,
> > > >>>> or
> > > >>>>> you
> > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> > > >>>>> published.
> > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> > > >>>> create
> > > >>>> an
> > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
> > > >>>> feed
> > > >>>>> into
> > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>>> Dave
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
> > > >>>> good.
> > > >>>>> We
> > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> > admin
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>>>> then
> > > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in
> WP
> > > >>>>> backend
> > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> > > >>>> ways to
> > > >>>>> do
> > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> > > >>>> Request
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > >> mD
> > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
> how
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
> post
> > > >>>>>> directly
> > > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> > > >>>> something
> > > >>>>>>>> like
> > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > drive...)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
> > > >>>> file
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
> > pull
> > > >>>>>>>> request
> > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > >> mD
> > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer
> to
> > > >>>> create
> > > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> > > >>>> share
> > > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> screenshot
> > > >>>> it
> > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > 40adobe.com
> > > >> %7C
> > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there.
> Is
> > > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> c
> > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > >> A%2F
> > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> c
> > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > >> A%2F
> > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >>>> ed=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >>>> ed=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >>>> ed=0
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Guys,
There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website. If I
have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
"Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
playerglobal.swc.
That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user have
to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to do
that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
- As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
- Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
"InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
- Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
Thanks, Piotr
2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this task
> needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work as
> good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change visuals
> to adapt to what they need!)
> :)
>
> 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Alex
> > >
> > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > >
> > >> Hi Carlos,
> > >>
> > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's
> > changes.
> > >>
> > >
> > > thanks for your words :)
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in
> > Royale
> > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye of
> > > people too soon.
> > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of thinking of
> > > release web ASAP :)
> > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save
> > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But,
> > IMO,
> > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our
> > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align
> > with
> > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> marketing
> > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on what
> is
> > > really important.
> > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to see in
> > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for another,
> > it'd
> > > be a useless work.
> > >
> > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good, and
> > > people like Royale.
> > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site, since
> > the
> > > important task are done.
> > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important (first
> > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > >
> > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to
> help
> > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list,
> > Github,
> > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo.
> That's
> > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > >
> > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can still
> > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and
> more,
> > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be
> done
> > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make in
> > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> notepad.
> > >
> > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here to
> > make
> > > Apache Royale!
> > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result we
> > have
> > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale to
> > make
> > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make websites.
> > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a royale
> > web
> > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > but maybe in the future.
> > >
> > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time, thanks to
> > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that
> works
> > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with
> > Andrew
> > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is
> about
> > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in the
> > > end,
> > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech that
> in
> > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some
> years
> > if
> > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that
> goal.
> > >
> > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want you to
> > try
> > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I think,
> > but
> > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to
> focus
> > > on themeing and UI set.
> >
> > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
> > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> -Alex
> > >>
> > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> > Rovira"
> > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Om,
> > >>>
> > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we
> can
> > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual
> as
> > our
> > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > >>>
> > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > >>>
> > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will
> > end in
> > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm
> > very
> > >>> happy.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
> > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we
> have
> > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and
> > we
> > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >:
> > >>>
> > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> > patches
> > >>>> and PRs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
> > >>>> Github
> > >>>> urls. For example
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > >> %7C
> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc)
> can
> > >>>> be on
> > >>>> WP.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Om
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> > things
> > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> > changes,
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process
> is
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> > >>>> updates
> > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to
> do.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi -
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> > >>>> updates.
> > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> > >>>>> changes.
> > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
> > >>>> either
> > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> process,
> > >>>> or
> > >>>>> you
> > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> > >>>>> published.
> > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> > >>>> create
> > >>>> an
> > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
> > >>>> feed
> > >>>>> into
> > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>> Dave
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
> > >>>> good.
> > >>>>> We
> > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> admin
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>> then
> > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
> > >>>>> backend
> > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> > >>>> ways to
> > >>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > >>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> > >>>> Request
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > >> mD
> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> website
> > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> > >>>>>> directly
> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> > >>>> something
> > >>>>>>>> like
> > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> drive...)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
> > >>>> file
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> some
> > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
> pull
> > >>>>>>>> request
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > >> mD
> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
> > >>>> create
> > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> > >>>> share
> > >>>>>>>> that.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
> > >>>> it
> > >>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > 40adobe.com
> > >> %7C
> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> c
> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > >> A%2F
> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> c
> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > >> A%2F
> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >>>> ed=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >>>> ed=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >>>> ed=0
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Dave,
Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this task
needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work as
good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change visuals
to adapt to what they need!)
:)
2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> Hi -
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex
> >
> > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >
> >> Hi Carlos,
> >>
> >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's
> changes.
> >>
> >
> > thanks for your words :)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in
> Royale
> >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> >>
> >
> > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye of
> > people too soon.
> > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of thinking of
> > release web ASAP :)
> > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save
> >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But,
> IMO,
> >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our
> >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align
> with
> >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing
> >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
> >>
> >
> > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on what is
> > really important.
> > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to see in
> > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for another,
> it'd
> > be a useless work.
> >
> > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good, and
> > people like Royale.
> > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site, since
> the
> > important task are done.
> > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important (first
> > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> >
> > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to help
> > with website in the same way we do here
> > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list,
> Github,
> > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo. That's
> > is what Apache ask us to do.
> >
> > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can still
> > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and more,
> > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be done
> > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make in
> > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with notepad.
> >
> > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here to
> make
> > Apache Royale!
> > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result we
> have
> > now with something made by hand by us.
> > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale to
> make
> > website, is about to compite with years
> > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make websites.
> > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a royale
> web
> > site that compites with the actual one,
> > but maybe in the future.
> >
> > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time, thanks to
> > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that works
> > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with
> Andrew
> > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is about
> > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in the
> > end,
> > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech that in
> > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some years
> if
> > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that goal.
> >
> > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want you to
> try
> > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I think,
> but
> > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to focus
> > on themeing and UI set.
>
> I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
> achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> Rovira"
> >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Om,
> >>>
> >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
> >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as
> our
> >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> >>>
> >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> >>>
> >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will
> end in
> >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm
> very
> >>> happy.
> >>>
> >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
> >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
> >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and
> we
> >>> have that with GitHub)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> patches
> >>>> and PRs.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
> >>>> Github
> >>>> urls. For example
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> >> %7C
> >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7
> >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> >>>>
> >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can
> >>>> be on
> >>>> WP.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Om
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> things
> >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> changes,
> >>>> and
> >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is
> >>>> to
> >>>> :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> >>>> updates
> >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> >>>> updates.
> >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> >>>>> changes.
> >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
> >>>> either
> >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
> >>>> or
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> >>>>> published.
> >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> >>>> create
> >>>> an
> >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
> >>>> feed
> >>>>> into
> >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Carlos,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
> >>>> good.
> >>>>> We
> >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
> >>>>> backend
> >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> >>>> ways to
> >>>>> do
> >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> >>>> Request
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> >> mD
> >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> website
> >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> >>>>>> directly
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> >>>> something
> >>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
> >>>> file
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> >>>>>>>> request
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> >> mD
> >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
> >>>> create
> >>>>>>>>>> table
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> >>>> share
> >>>>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>>>>> Can
> >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> >> %7C
> >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7
> >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> >>>>>>>>> someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> c
> >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> >> A%2F
> >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> www.avast.com&data=02%
> >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> c
> >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> >> A%2F
> >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> 7C63651220757758276
> >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>>> ed=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>>> ed=0>*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>>> ed=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>>> ed=0>*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> 7C63651220757758276
> >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> 7C63651220757758276
> >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>>> ed=0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>>> ed=0>*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> 7C63651220757758276
> >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Carlos Rovira
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Alex
>
> 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>
>> Hi Carlos,
>>
>> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's changes.
>>
>
> thanks for your words :)
>
>
>>
>> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in Royale
>> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
>>
>
> Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye of
> people too soon.
> But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of thinking of
> release web ASAP :)
> I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
>
>
>>
>> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save
>> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, IMO,
>> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our
>> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align with
>> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing
>> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
>>
>
> Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on what is
> really important.
> We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to see in
> Royale. We need that ASAP.
> If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for another, it'd
> be a useless work.
>
> Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good, and
> people like Royale.
> Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site, since the
> important task are done.
> I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important (first
> release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
>
> In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to help
> with website in the same way we do here
> What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list, Github,
> or other tool? The important thing is that
> the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo. That's
> is what Apache ask us to do.
>
> The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can still
> modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and more,
> since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be done
> by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make in
> notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with notepad.
>
> The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here to make
> Apache Royale!
> And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result we have
> now with something made by hand by us.
> Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale to make
> website, is about to compite with years
> of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make websites.
> Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a royale web
> site that compites with the actual one,
> but maybe in the future.
>
> Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time, thanks to
> Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that works
> ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with Andrew
> corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is about
> get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in the
> end,
> make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech that in
> the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some years if
> we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that goal.
>
> That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want you to try
> to replicate the website in Royale.
> I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I think, but
> if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to focus
> on themeing and UI set.
I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
Regards,
Dave
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
>> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Om,
>>>
>>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
>>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
>>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our
>>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
>>>
>>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
>>>
>>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in
>>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
>>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very
>>> happy.
>>>
>>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
>>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
>>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we
>>> have that with GitHub)
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches
>>>> and PRs.
>>>>
>>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
>>>> Github
>>>> urls. For example
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
>>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7C
>>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7
>>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
>> SDo6aX50kfXkU
>>>> %3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can
>>>> be on
>>>> WP.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Om
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
>>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes,
>>>> and
>>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
>>>>>
>>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
>>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
>>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is
>>>> to
>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
>>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
>>>> updates
>>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
>>>>> 3.- commit and push
>>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
>>>>>
>>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
>>>> updates.
>>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
>>>>> changes.
>>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
>>>> either
>>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
>>>> or
>>>>> you
>>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
>>>>> published.
>>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
>>>> create
>>>> an
>>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
>>>> feed
>>>>> into
>>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
>>>> good.
>>>>> We
>>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
>>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Om,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin
>>>> and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> exported and published.
>>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
>>>>> backend
>>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
>>>> ways to
>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
>>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
>>>> Request
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
>> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
>> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
>> mD
>>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
>>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
>>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
>>>> something
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
>>>> file
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
>> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
>> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
>> mD
>>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
>>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
>>>> share
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
>>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7C
>>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7
>>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
>> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
>>>> %3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
>>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
>>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
>> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
>>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> c
>>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
>> A%2F
>>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> www.avast.com&data=02%
>>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
>> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
>>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
>> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
>>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
>>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
>> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
>>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> c
>>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
>> A%2F
>>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
>>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> 7C63651220757758276
>>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7Ca1f216958a02
>>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>>> ed=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7Ca1f216958a02
>>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>>> ed=0>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
>>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
>>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
>>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
>>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
>>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
>>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7Ca1f216958a02
>>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>>> ed=0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7Ca1f216958a02
>>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>>> ed=0>*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
>>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> 7C63651220757758276
>>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
>>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> 7C63651220757758276
>>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7Ca1f216958a02
>>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>>> ed=0
>>>>>>>
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> %7Ca1f216958a02
>>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>>> ed=0>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
>>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> 7C63651220757758276
>>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carlos Rovira
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
>>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
>>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> 7C636512207577582763&s
>>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Alex
2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's changes.
>
thanks for your words :)
>
> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in Royale
> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
>
Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye of
people too soon.
But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of thinking of
release web ASAP :)
I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
>
> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save
> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, IMO,
> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our
> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align with
> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing
> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
>
Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on what is
really important.
We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to see in
Royale. We need that ASAP.
If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for another, it'd
be a useless work.
Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good, and
people like Royale.
Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site, since the
important task are done.
I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important (first
release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to help
with website in the same way we do here
What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list, Github,
or other tool? The important thing is that
the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo. That's
is what Apache ask us to do.
The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can still
modify the site. The only problem is that changes
will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and more,
since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be done
by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make in
notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with notepad.
The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here to make
Apache Royale!
And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result we have
now with something made by hand by us.
Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale to make
website, is about to compite with years
of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make websites.
Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a royale web
site that compites with the actual one,
but maybe in the future.
Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time, thanks to
Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that works
ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with Andrew
corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is about
get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in the
end,
make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech that in
the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some years if
we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that goal.
That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want you to try
to replicate the website in Royale.
I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I think, but
if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to focus
on themeing and UI set.
Thanks!
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >Hi Om,
> >
> >when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
> >make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> >It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our
> >"public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> >
> >There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> >
> >But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in
> >Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
> >And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very
> >happy.
> >
> >I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
> >update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
> >that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we
> >have that with GitHub)
> >
> >
> >2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches
> >> and PRs.
> >>
> >> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
> >>Github
> >> urls. For example
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> >>s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7C
> >>a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7
> >>C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> >>%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can
> >>be on
> >> WP.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Om
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
> >> > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes,
> >> and
> >> > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> >> >
> >> > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> >> > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> >> > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is
> >>to
> >> :
> >> >
> >> > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> >> > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> >>updates
> >> > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> >> > 3.- commit and push
> >> > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> >> >
> >> > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi -
> >> > >
> >> > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> >>updates.
> >> > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> >> > changes.
> >> > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
> >> either
> >> > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
> >>or
> >> > you
> >> > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> >> > published.
> >> > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> >> > >
> >> > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> >>create
> >> an
> >> > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
> >>feed
> >> > into
> >> > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Dave
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Carlos,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
> >>good.
> >> > We
> >> > > > could apply them on our self.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks, Piotr
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> >><ca...@apache.org>:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hi Om,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin
> >> and
> >> > > then
> >> > > >> exported and published.
> >> > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
> >> > backend
> >> > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> >>ways to
> >> > do
> >> > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Thanks
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >> > >:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> >> Request
> >> > to
> >> > > >>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> >>om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> >>obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> mD
> >>pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> >> > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
> >>the
> >> > > >> website
> >> > > >>> is being deployed?
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> Thanks,
> >> > > >>> Om
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> >> > > directly
> >> > > >>> in
> >> > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> >> > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> >> something
> >> > > >> like
> >> > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Thanks!
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > > >:
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
> >>file
> >> to
> >> > > >>> some
> >> > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> >> > > >> request
> >> > > >>> to
> >> > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> [1]
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> >>om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> >>obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> mD
> >>pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> >> > > >>>>> Piotr
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> >><co...@gmail.com>:
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
> >> create
> >> > > >>>> table
> >> > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> >>share
> >> > > >> that.
> >> > > >>>> Can
> >> > > >>>>> I
> >> > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
> >>it
> >> > > >> can
> >> > > >>> be
> >> > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> >> > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> [1]
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> >>yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7C
> >>a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7
> >>C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> >>%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> >> cottage14@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> >> > > >>> someone
> >> > > >>>>>>> handling
> >> > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> <
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> >>t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> >>be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> c
> >>ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> A%2F
> >>Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> www.avast.com&data=02%
> >>7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> >>34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> >>w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>>>> <
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> >>t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> >>be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> c
> >>ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> A%2F
> >>Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> > > >>>>>> :
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C63651220757758276
> >>3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>ed=0
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>ed=0>*
> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> >>.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> >>08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> >>763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> >>.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> >>08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> >>763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Patreon:
> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>ed=0
> >> > > >>>>>
> >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>ed=0>*
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> --
> >> > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > > >>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C63651220757758276
> >>3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> >> > > >>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C63651220757758276
> >>3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Patreon:
> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>ed=0
> >> > > >
> >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >>ed=0>*
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Carlos Rovira
> >> >
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >>d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C63651220757758276
> >>3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Carlos Rovira
> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> >Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> >587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636512207577582763&s
> >data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.INVALID>.
Hi Carlos,
First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's changes.
Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in Royale
sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save
much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, IMO,
the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our
code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align with
the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing
site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
<carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:
>Hi Om,
>
>when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
>make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
>It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our
>"public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
>
>There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
>
>But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in
>Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
>And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very
>happy.
>
>I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
>update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
>that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we
>have that with GitHub)
>
>
>2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>
>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches
>> and PRs.
>>
>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from
>>Github
>> urls. For example
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
>>s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C
>>a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7
>>C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyDSDo6aX50kfXkU
>>%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can
>>be on
>> WP.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Om
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org>
>>wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
>> > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes,
>> and
>> > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
>> >
>> > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
>> > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
>> > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is
>>to
>> :
>> >
>> > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
>> > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
>>updates
>> > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
>> > 3.- commit and push
>> > 4.- wait for automatic publication
>> >
>> > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>> >
>> > > Hi -
>> > >
>> > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
>>updates.
>> > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
>> > >
>> > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
>> > changes.
>> > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
>> either
>> > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
>>or
>> > you
>> > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
>> > published.
>> > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
>> > >
>> > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
>>create
>> an
>> > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS
>>feed
>> > into
>> > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Carlos,
>> > > >
>> > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really
>>good.
>> > We
>> > > > could apply them on our self.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks, Piotr
>> > > >
>> > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
>><ca...@apache.org>:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hi Om,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin
>> and
>> > > then
>> > > >> exported and published.
>> > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
>> > backend
>> > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
>>ways to
>> > do
>> > > >> that if there's enough interest.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thanks
>> > > >>
>> > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
>> > >:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
>> Request
>> > to
>> > > >>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>>obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD
>>pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
>> > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how
>>the
>> > > >> website
>> > > >>> is being deployed?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Thanks,
>> > > >>> Om
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
>> > > directly
>> > > >>> in
>> > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
>> > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
>> something
>> > > >> like
>> > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Thanks!
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > > >:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that
>>file
>> to
>> > > >>> some
>> > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
>> > > >> request
>> > > >>> to
>> > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> [1]
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>>obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD
>>pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
>> > > >>>>> Piotr
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
>><co...@gmail.com>:
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
>> create
>> > > >>>> table
>> > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
>>share
>> > > >> that.
>> > > >>>> Can
>> > > >>>>> I
>> > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot
>>it
>> > > >> can
>> > > >>> be
>> > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
>> > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> [1]
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
>>yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C
>>a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7
>>C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3ReH6Vu4f41WSFs
>>%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
>> cottage14@gmail.com>
>> > > >>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
>> > > >>> someone
>> > > >>>>>>> handling
>> > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> <
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
>>t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ado
>>be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dec
>>ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXcA%2F
>>Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avast.com&data=02%
>>7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
>>34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
>>w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>>>> <
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
>>t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ado
>>be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dec
>>ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXcA%2F
>>Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> <3
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > >>>>>> :
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
>>d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63651220757758276
>>3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> --
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
>>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>ed=0
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
>>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>ed=0>*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> --
>> > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
>>.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
>>08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
>>763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> --
>> > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
>>.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
>>08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
>>763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> --
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Patreon:
>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
>>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>ed=0
>> > > >>>>>
>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
>>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>ed=0>*
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> --
>> > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > > >>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
>>d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63651220757758276
>>3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> Carlos Rovira
>> > > >>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
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>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > >
>> > > > Patreon:
>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
>>4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>ed=0
>> > > >
>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a02
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>>07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jfnO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>>ed=0>*
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Carlos Rovira
>> >
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
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>>3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Carlos Rovira
>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
>Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
>587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&s
>data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Om,
when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can
make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our
"public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in
Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc...
And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very
happy.
I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to
update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have
that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we
have that with GitHub)
2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches
> and PRs.
>
> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from Github
> urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/mytory-markdown/
>
> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can be on
> WP.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Om
>
> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
> > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes,
> and
> > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> >
> > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is to
> :
> >
> > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme updates
> > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > 3.- commit and push
> > 4.- wait for automatic publication
> >
> > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> >
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content updates.
> > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > >
> > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> > changes.
> > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
> either
> > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process, or
> > you
> > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> > published.
> > > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > >
> > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to create
> an
> > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS feed
> > into
> > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Carlos,
> > > >
> > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really good.
> > We
> > > > could apply them on our self.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Om,
> > > >>
> > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin
> and
> > > then
> > > >> exported and published.
> > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > >>
> > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
> > backend
> > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to
> > do
> > > >> that if there's enough interest.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> Request
> > to
> > > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
> > > >> website
> > > >>> is being deployed?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Om
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> > > directly
> > > >>> in
> > > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> something
> > > >> like
> > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file
> to
> > > >>> some
> > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> > > >> request
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > >>>>> Piotr
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
> create
> > > >>>> table
> > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
> > > >> that.
> > > >>>> Can
> > > >>>>> I
> > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
> > > >> can
> > > >>> be
> > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > > >>> someone
> > > >>>>>>> handling
> > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > > >>>>>>>> <
> > > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> <3
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches
and PRs.
There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from Github
urls. For example https://wordpress.org/plugins/mytory-markdown/
This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can be on
WP.
Thoughts?
Om
On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes, and
> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
>
> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is to :
>
> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme updates
> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> 3.- commit and push
> 4.- wait for automatic publication
>
> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content updates.
> > Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> >
> > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
> changes.
> > At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later either
> > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process, or
> you
> > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
> published.
> > This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> >
> > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to create an
> > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS feed
> into
> > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Carlos,
> > >
> > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really good.
> We
> > > could apply them on our self.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Piotr
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > >> Hi Om,
> > >>
> > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin and
> > then
> > >> exported and published.
> > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > >>
> > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
> backend
> > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to
> do
> > >> that if there's enough interest.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >:
> > >>
> > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request
> to
> > >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
> > >> website
> > >>> is being deployed?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Om
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> > directly
> > >>> in
> > >>>> this list, open a new thread
> > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something
> > >> like
> > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
> > >>> some
> > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> > >> request
> > >>> to
> > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > >>>>> Piotr
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
> > >>>> table
> > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
> > >> that.
> > >>>> Can
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
> > >> can
> > >>> be
> > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > >>> someone
> > >>>>>>> handling
> > >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > >>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> <3
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Wow! this time the update was very easy. Changes are already live! :)
2018-01-10 23:18 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi,
>
> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes, and
> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
>
> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is to :
>
> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme updates
> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> 3.- commit and push
> 4.- wait for automatic publication
>
> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content updates.
>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
>>
>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make
>> changes. At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later
>> either we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process,
>> or you would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then
>> published. This is what the Apache CMS can do.
>>
>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to create an
>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS feed into
>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Carlos,
>> >
>> > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really good. We
>> > could apply them on our self.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Piotr
>> >
>> > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>> >
>> >> Hi Om,
>> >>
>> >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin and
>> then
>> >> exported and published.
>> >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>> >>
>> >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP
>> backend
>> >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to do
>> >> that if there's enough interest.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request
>> to
>> >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
>> >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
>> >> website
>> >>> is being deployed?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Om
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> >>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi Andrew,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
>> directly
>> >>> in
>> >>>> this list, open a new thread
>> >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something
>> >> like
>> >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> >:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
>> >>> some
>> >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
>> >> request
>> >>> to
>> >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
>> >>>>> Piotr
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
>> >>>> table
>> >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
>> >> that.
>> >>>> Can
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
>> >> can
>> >>> be
>> >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
>> >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Excellent.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
>> >>> someone
>> >>>>>>> handling
>> >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> <
>> >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
>> >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
>> >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
>> >>>>>>>> <
>> >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
>> >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> <3
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> >>>>>> :
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Carlos Rovira
>> >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Carlos Rovira
>> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Piotr Zarzycki
>> >
>> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi,
@Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things
done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes, and
uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
@Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for
revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is to :
1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme updates
that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
3.- commit and push
4.- wait for automatic publication
But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do.
Thanks
2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> Hi -
>
> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content updates.
> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
>
> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make changes.
> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later either
> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process, or you
> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then published.
> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
>
> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to create an
> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS feed into
> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Carlos,
> >
> > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really good. We
> > could apply them on our self.
> >
> > Thanks, Piotr
> >
> > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> >> Hi Om,
> >>
> >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin and
> then
> >> exported and published.
> >> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> >>
> >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP backend
> >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to do
> >> that if there's enough interest.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
> >>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
> >> website
> >>> is being deployed?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Om
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> directly
> >>> in
> >>>> this list, open a new thread
> >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something
> >> like
> >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
> >>> some
> >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> >> request
> >>> to
> >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> >>>>> Piotr
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
> >>>> table
> >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
> >> that.
> >>>> Can
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
> >> can
> >>> be
> >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Excellent.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> >>> someone
> >>>>>>> handling
> >>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> >>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <3
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content updates. Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make changes. At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later either we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process, or you would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then published. This is what the Apache CMS can do.
An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to create an RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS feed into the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
Regards,
Dave
> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Carlos,
>
> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really good. We
> could apply them on our self.
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
>> Hi Om,
>>
>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin and then
>> exported and published.
>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>>
>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP backend
>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to do
>> that if there's enough interest.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
>>> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
>> website
>>> is being deployed?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
>>>>
>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post directly
>>> in
>>>> this list, open a new thread
>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something
>> like
>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
>>> some
>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
>> request
>>> to
>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
>>>>> Piotr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
>>>> table
>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
>> that.
>>>> Can
>>>>> I
>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
>> can
>>> be
>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Excellent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
>>> someone
>>>>>>> handling
>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
>>>>>>>> www.avast.com
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>
>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Piotr, I think are simply amazing! I'm right now applying in WP, then
I'll export and update the website :))
Thanks Andrew!!
2018-01-10 22:25 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Carlos,
>
> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really good. We
> could apply them on our self.
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi Om,
> >
> > that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin and
> then
> > exported and published.
> > something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> >
> > However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP backend
> > and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to do
> > that if there's enough interest.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
> > > https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > > Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
> > website
> > > is being deployed?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the revision! :)
> > > >
> > > > If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post
> directly
> > > in
> > > > this list, open a new thread
> > > > If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something
> > like
> > > > that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >:
> > > >
> > > > > Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
> > > some
> > > > > server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> > request
> > > to
> > > > > the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for that! :)
> > > > > Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to
> create
> > > > table
> > > > > > (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
> > that.
> > > > Can
> > > > > I
> > > > > > just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
> > can
> > > be
> > > > > > > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Excellent.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > > someone
> > > > > > > handling
> > > > > > > > text tweaking?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Virus-free.
> > > > > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > <3
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >
> > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Carlos,
What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really good. We
could apply them on our self.
Thanks, Piotr
2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi Om,
>
> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin and then
> exported and published.
> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>
> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP backend
> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to do
> that if there's enough interest.
>
> Thanks
>
> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
> > https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> > Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the
> website
> > is being deployed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > thanks for the revision! :)
> > >
> > > If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post directly
> > in
> > > this list, open a new thread
> > > If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something
> like
> > > that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
> > some
> > > > server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull
> request
> > to
> > > > the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for that! :)
> > > > Piotr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
> > > table
> > > > > (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share
> that.
> > > Can
> > > > I
> > > > > just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it
> can
> > be
> > > > > > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Excellent.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> > someone
> > > > > > handling
> > > > > > > text tweaking?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Virus-free.
> > > > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <3
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Om,
that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin and then
exported and published.
something out of this workflow will not be possible.
However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP backend
and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some ways to do
that if there's enough interest.
Thanks
2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the website
> is being deployed?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > thanks for the revision! :)
> >
> > If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post directly
> in
> > this list, open a new thread
> > If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something like
> > that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to
> some
> > > server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull request
> to
> > > the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> > >
> > > Thanks for that! :)
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
> > table
> > > > (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share that.
> > Can
> > > I
> > > > just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > >
> > > > > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it can
> be
> > > > > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Excellent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is
> someone
> > > > > handling
> > > > > > text tweaking?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Virus-free.
> > > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > <3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >
> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull Request to
https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site.
Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how the website
is being deployed?
Thanks,
Om
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> thanks for the revision! :)
>
> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post directly in
> this list, open a new thread
> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something like
> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
>
> Thanks!
>
> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to some
> > server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull request to
> > the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
> >
> > Thanks for that! :)
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> > 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create
> table
> > > (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share that.
> Can
> > I
> > > just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it can be
> > > > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Excellent.
> > > > >
> > > > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is someone
> > > > handling
> > > > > text tweaking?
> > > > >
> > > > > <
> > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > >
> > > > > Virus-free.
> > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > > <
> > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > > >
> > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > <3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Andrew,
thanks for the revision! :)
If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post directly in
this list, open a new thread
If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or something like
that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...)
Thanks!
2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to some
> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull request to
> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
>
> Thanks for that! :)
> Piotr
>
>
> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
>
> > There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create table
> > (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share that. Can
> I
> > just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it can be
> > > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > >
> > > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> > >
> > > Thanks, Piotr
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Excellent.
> > > >
> > > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is someone
> > > handling
> > > > text tweaking?
> > > >
> > > > <
> > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >
> > > > Virus-free.
> > > > www.avast.com
> > > > <
> > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >
> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > <3
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >
> > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >
> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that file to some
server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull request to
the repository [1], branch asf-site.
[1] https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/asf-site
Thanks for that! :)
Piotr
2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>:
> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create table
> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share that. Can I
> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it can be
> > stripped out from the mailing list.
> > You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> >
> > [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
> >
> > Thanks, Piotr
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Excellent.
> > >
> > > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is someone
> > handling
> > > text tweaking?
> > >
> > > <
> > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >
> > > Virus-free.
> > > www.avast.com
> > > <
> > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >
> > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > <3
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > >
> > > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to create table
(existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and share that. Can I
just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it can be
> stripped out from the mailing list.
> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>
> [1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Excellent.
> >
> > However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is someone
> handling
> > text tweaking?
> >
> > <
> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > >
> > Virus-free.
> > www.avast.com
> > <
> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_
> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> > >
> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > <3
> > >
> > > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > >
> > > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrew,
Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot it can be
stripped out from the mailing list.
You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
[1] http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com
Thanks, Piotr
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Excellent.
>
> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is someone handling
> text tweaking?
>
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >
> Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >
> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > <3
> >
> > Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> >
> > 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
Excellent.
However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is someone handling
text tweaking?
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
Virus-free.
www.avast.com
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> <3
>
> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>
> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Royale website is live!!
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
<3
Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*