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Posted to users@streampipes.apache.org by Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com> on 2021/01/17 08:12:36 UTC
Feature Request to integrate Apache ECharts
Hello Apache StreamPipes Community,
Yesterday I had a look (again) on Apache StreamPipes and saw also this
entry in the wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMPIPES/Improving+StreamPipes+Visualizations
There are two amazing visualization projects in Apache:
1) https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html
2) https://superset.apache.org/
Especially to make Apache StreamPipes more attractive for Endusers the
Dashboard Functionality is Key.
At the current state there will be most of all a comparison between
Node-Red and Apache StreamPipes. In my humble opinion a key differentiator
is the easy way to generate dashboards and diagrams basically out of the
box. If we could manage to e.g. integrate Apache ECharts with Apache
StreamPipes this could be a game changer. Especially when you look at
standard commercial products which basically have a lack of automatically
showing stuff as easy as StreamPipes is already capable of doing.
What do you think?
Kind regards
otluk
Re: Feature Request to integrate Apache ECharts
Posted by Patrick Wiener <wi...@apache.org>.
That looks kinda cool :)
Lets see if we find someone as part of the GSoC iniative that could help us in integrating echarts in StreamPipes.
Would definitely be a super cool extension on the UI side.
Cheers
Patrick
> Am 18.01.2021 um 16:50 schrieb Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> Hi StreamPipes-Team,
>
> Yes indeed I only hat in mind to have the ECharts library integrated and not so much in the sense of dependencies
>
> There you are completely right not increasing complexity but enable the beautiful ECharts library to be used for the Chart Generation.
>
> What I am aiming at are Dashboards like these ones: https://youtu.be/KPPn0r4uclE <https://youtu.be/KPPn0r4uclE>
>
> Especially like the Gauges Thingsboards are providing out-of-the box. :-)
>
> So it isn't so much about more widgets. More beautiful standard diagrams (line charts etc.) and Gauges would be a real nice differentiator because that is especially for a lot of end users an important point
> I know a lot of Business Users who are using proprietary software stacks to visualize machine data mainly because there is no solution yet from Open Source besides Superset.
>
> Best,
> otluk
>
> Am So., 17. Jan. 2021 um 22:54 Uhr schrieb Patrick Wiener <wiener@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>:
> Hi Lukas,
>
> thanks for bringing this up :) We are aware of both of these projects (but not having used them) and as you
> rightfully pointed out we have started on discussing some features of interest regarding visualization in the wiki.
>
> I guess we should start a discussion on this topic, especially at which point we draw the line
> between us and specialized visualization tools. AFAIK Superset similar as other tools like Grafana
> are standalone tools that have dedicated storage drivers to connect to various data sources.
> While this shouldn’t hinder adoption in deployments at users I would not integrate it as part of StreamPipes
> in a „managed“ way in order to reduce dependencies to external systems from a management/maintainance
> perspective.
>
> At the same kind, I guess echarts is more like a library and could potentially be integrated via npm (I’m not the UI expert here,
> maybe @Dominik can tell more).
>
> What would you think are the key functionalities that would be a game changer for endusers that insuffiently provided?
> More widgets? Better control in design? More configuration options? ...
>
> So I would suggest discussing the functional/non-functional requirements for a dashboard visualization here and incrementally
> add them to the wiki.
>
> Best,
> Patrick
>
>> Am 17.01.2021 um 09:21 schrieb Lukas Ott <ott.lukas.14@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>>
>> +Added the Feature Request to Jira: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STREAMPIPES-279 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STREAMPIPES-279>
>>
>> Am So., 17. Jan. 2021 um 09:12 Uhr schrieb Lukas Ott <ott.lukas.14@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hello Apache StreamPipes Community,
>>
>> Yesterday I had a look (again) on Apache StreamPipes and saw also this entry in the wiki:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMPIPES/Improving+StreamPipes+Visualizations <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMPIPES/Improving+StreamPipes+Visualizations>
>>
>> There are two amazing visualization projects in Apache:
>>
>> 1) https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html <https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html>
>>
>> 2) https://superset.apache.org/ <https://superset.apache.org/>
>>
>> Especially to make Apache StreamPipes more attractive for Endusers the Dashboard Functionality is Key.
>>
>> At the current state there will be most of all a comparison between Node-Red and Apache StreamPipes. In my humble opinion a key differentiator is the easy way to generate dashboards and diagrams basically out of the box. If we could manage to e.g. integrate Apache ECharts with Apache StreamPipes this could be a game changer. Especially when you look at standard commercial products which basically have a lack of automatically showing stuff as easy as StreamPipes is already capable of doing.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> otluk
>>
>>
>
Re: Feature Request to integrate Apache ECharts
Posted by Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com>.
Hi StreamPipes-Team,
Yes indeed I only hat in mind to have the ECharts library integrated and
not so much in the sense of dependencies
There you are completely right not increasing complexity but enable the
beautiful ECharts library to be used for the Chart Generation.
What I am aiming at are Dashboards like these ones:
https://youtu.be/KPPn0r4uclE
Especially like the Gauges Thingsboards are providing out-of-the box. :-)
So it isn't so much about more widgets. More beautiful standard diagrams
(line charts etc.) and Gauges would be a real nice differentiator because
that is especially for a lot of end users an important point
I know a lot of Business Users who are using proprietary software stacks to
visualize machine data mainly because there is no solution yet from Open
Source besides Superset.
Best,
otluk
Am So., 17. Jan. 2021 um 22:54 Uhr schrieb Patrick Wiener <wiener@apache.org
>:
> Hi Lukas,
>
> thanks for bringing this up :) We are aware of both of these projects (but
> not having used them) and as you
> rightfully pointed out we have started on discussing some features of
> interest regarding visualization in the wiki.
>
> I guess we should start a discussion on this topic, especially at which
> point we draw the line
> between us and specialized visualization tools. AFAIK Superset similar as
> other tools like Grafana
> are standalone tools that have dedicated storage drivers to connect to
> various data sources.
> While this shouldn’t hinder adoption in deployments at users I would not
> integrate it as part of StreamPipes
> in a „managed“ way in order to reduce dependencies to external systems
> from a management/maintainance
> perspective.
>
> At the same kind, I guess echarts is more like a library and could
> potentially be integrated via npm (I’m not the UI expert here,
> maybe @Dominik can tell more).
>
> What would you think are the key functionalities that would be a game
> changer for endusers that insuffiently provided?
> More widgets? Better control in design? More configuration options? ...
>
> So I would suggest discussing the functional/non-functional requirements
> for a dashboard visualization here and incrementally
> add them to the wiki.
>
> Best,
> Patrick
>
> Am 17.01.2021 um 09:21 schrieb Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com>:
>
> +Added the Feature Request to Jira:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STREAMPIPES-279
>
> Am So., 17. Jan. 2021 um 09:12 Uhr schrieb Lukas Ott <
> ott.lukas.14@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> Hello Apache StreamPipes Community,
>>
>> Yesterday I had a look (again) on Apache StreamPipes and saw also this
>> entry in the wiki:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMPIPES/Improving+StreamPipes+Visualizations
>>
>>
>> There are two amazing visualization projects in Apache:
>>
>> 1) https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html
>>
>> 2) https://superset.apache.org/
>>
>> Especially to make Apache StreamPipes more attractive for Endusers the
>> Dashboard Functionality is Key.
>>
>> At the current state there will be most of all a comparison between
>> Node-Red and Apache StreamPipes. In my humble opinion a key differentiator
>> is the easy way to generate dashboards and diagrams basically out of the
>> box. If we could manage to e.g. integrate Apache ECharts with Apache
>> StreamPipes this could be a game changer. Especially when you look at
>> standard commercial products which basically have a lack of automatically
>> showing stuff as easy as StreamPipes is already capable of doing.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> otluk
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Feature Request to integrate Apache ECharts
Posted by Patrick Wiener <wi...@apache.org>.
Hi Lukas,
thanks for bringing this up :) We are aware of both of these projects (but not having used them) and as you
rightfully pointed out we have started on discussing some features of interest regarding visualization in the wiki.
I guess we should start a discussion on this topic, especially at which point we draw the line
between us and specialized visualization tools. AFAIK Superset similar as other tools like Grafana
are standalone tools that have dedicated storage drivers to connect to various data sources.
While this shouldn’t hinder adoption in deployments at users I would not integrate it as part of StreamPipes
in a „managed“ way in order to reduce dependencies to external systems from a management/maintainance
perspective.
At the same kind, I guess echarts is more like a library and could potentially be integrated via npm (I’m not the UI expert here,
maybe @Dominik can tell more).
What would you think are the key functionalities that would be a game changer for endusers that insuffiently provided?
More widgets? Better control in design? More configuration options? ...
So I would suggest discussing the functional/non-functional requirements for a dashboard visualization here and incrementally
add them to the wiki.
Best,
Patrick
> Am 17.01.2021 um 09:21 schrieb Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com>:
>
> +Added the Feature Request to Jira: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STREAMPIPES-279 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STREAMPIPES-279>
>
> Am So., 17. Jan. 2021 um 09:12 Uhr schrieb Lukas Ott <ott.lukas.14@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>
> Hello Apache StreamPipes Community,
>
> Yesterday I had a look (again) on Apache StreamPipes and saw also this entry in the wiki:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMPIPES/Improving+StreamPipes+Visualizations <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMPIPES/Improving+StreamPipes+Visualizations>
>
> There are two amazing visualization projects in Apache:
>
> 1) https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html <https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html>
>
> 2) https://superset.apache.org/ <https://superset.apache.org/>
>
> Especially to make Apache StreamPipes more attractive for Endusers the Dashboard Functionality is Key.
>
> At the current state there will be most of all a comparison between Node-Red and Apache StreamPipes. In my humble opinion a key differentiator is the easy way to generate dashboards and diagrams basically out of the box. If we could manage to e.g. integrate Apache ECharts with Apache StreamPipes this could be a game changer. Especially when you look at standard commercial products which basically have a lack of automatically showing stuff as easy as StreamPipes is already capable of doing.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Kind regards
> otluk
>
>
Re: Feature Request to integrate Apache ECharts
Posted by Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com>.
+Added the Feature Request to Jira:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STREAMPIPES-279
Am So., 17. Jan. 2021 um 09:12 Uhr schrieb Lukas Ott <ott.lukas.14@gmail.com
>:
>
> Hello Apache StreamPipes Community,
>
> Yesterday I had a look (again) on Apache StreamPipes and saw also this
> entry in the wiki:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMPIPES/Improving+StreamPipes+Visualizations
>
>
> There are two amazing visualization projects in Apache:
>
> 1) https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html
>
> 2) https://superset.apache.org/
>
> Especially to make Apache StreamPipes more attractive for Endusers the
> Dashboard Functionality is Key.
>
> At the current state there will be most of all a comparison between
> Node-Red and Apache StreamPipes. In my humble opinion a key differentiator
> is the easy way to generate dashboards and diagrams basically out of the
> box. If we could manage to e.g. integrate Apache ECharts with Apache
> StreamPipes this could be a game changer. Especially when you look at
> standard commercial products which basically have a lack of automatically
> showing stuff as easy as StreamPipes is already capable of doing.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Kind regards
> otluk
>
>
>