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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2017/06/18 15:22:07 UTC
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
Hi James, All,
What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ?
Thanks
Jacques
Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit :
> Hi Taher,
>
> Ok, I will also put them in wiki.
> Thank you for the review.
>
> Regards,
> James Yong
>
> On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi James,
>>
>> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on
>> it.
>>
>> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of
>> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get
>> more landings on our relevant pages.
>>
>> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus
>> on it. For example you specify information like:
>> - what is the statistical data to track?
>> - what actions to take based on this data?
>> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages
>> - what content changes need to happen in our pages?
>> - How will this information be shared with the community?
>> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to
>> fine-tune our pages?
>> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the
>> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following:
>>
>> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and
>> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new
>> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content
>> in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and
>> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download
>> page.
>> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better
>> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what
>> users search for.
>>
>> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics
>> admin account when done.
>>
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed
>> for Wiki contribution.
>>
>> Regards,
>> James Yong
>>
>> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes...
>>>
>>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could
>> open the access to all Wiki contributors.
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> as I have already mentioned
>>>>
>>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common
>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to
>> get
>>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If
>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held
>>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...]
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking?
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to
>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking,
>> if
>>>> we have a plan.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these
>>>>>
>>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by
>> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy
>>>>> Policy page. ")
>>>>>
>>>>> So?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>> What are others opinions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit :
>>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems we need to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not
>> sufficient -
>>>>>>>>> our own)
>>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie
>> policies).
>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out
>> browser
>>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best
>> interest of
>>>>>>>>> our project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it's OK,
>>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best
>> way?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James,
>>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira
>>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.
>>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
>>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms
>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Service at
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post
>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to
>> collect
>>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out
>> browser
>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to
>>>>>>>>>>>> participate
>>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user
>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do
>> we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need
>> input from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is
>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit
>> count per
>>>>>>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information?
>> Do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want
>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going
>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the
>> analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we
>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no
>> spam"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages
>> and only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest
>> the use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee
>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed
>> wiki pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited
>> manpower.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at
>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi James,
Yes sure, nothing presses.
Jacques
Le 28/06/2017 à 16:24, James Yong a écrit :
> Hi Jacques,
>
> Sorry for my late reply.
> Thanks for closing the infra issue.
> I was side-tracked by other work and not able to work on it yet.
> As there were discussion on an alternative like PIWIK,
> we can take some time to look into it?
>
> Regards,
> James
>
> On 2017-06-28 21:56 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>> Closed
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 18/06/2017 à 17:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>> Hi James, All,
>>>
>>> What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit :
>>>> Hi Taher,
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I will also put them in wiki.
>>>> Thank you for the review.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> James Yong
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of
>>>>> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get
>>>>> more landings on our relevant pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus
>>>>> on it. For example you specify information like:
>>>>> - what is the statistical data to track?
>>>>> - what actions to take based on this data?
>>>>> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages
>>>>> - what content changes need to happen in our pages?
>>>>> - How will this information be shared with the community?
>>>>> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to
>>>>> fine-tune our pages?
>>>>> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the
>>>>> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and
>>>>> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new
>>>>> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content
>>>>> in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and
>>>>> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download
>>>>> page.
>>>>> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better
>>>>> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what
>>>>> users search for.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics
>>>>> admin account when done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed
>>>>> for Wiki contribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> James Yong
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could
>>>>> open the access to all Wiki contributors.
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>>>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as I have already mentioned
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common
>>>>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to
>>>>> get
>>>>>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If
>>>>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held
>>>>>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to
>>>>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking,
>>>>> if
>>>>>>> we have a plan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>>>>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by
>>>>> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy
>>>>>>>> Policy page. ")
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>>>> What are others opinions?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems we need to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not
>>>>> sufficient -
>>>>>>>>>>>> our own)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie
>>>>> policies).
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out
>>>>> browser
>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best
>>>>> interest of
>>>>>>>>>>>> our project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's OK,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best
>>>>> way?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to
>>>>> collect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out
>>>>> browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user
>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do
>>>>> we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need
>>>>> input from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is
>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit
>>>>> count per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information?
>>>>> Do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want
>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going
>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the
>>>>> analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we
>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no
>>>>> spam"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages
>>>>> and only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest
>>>>> the use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed
>>>>> wiki pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited
>>>>> manpower.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at
>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
Posted by James Yong <ja...@apache.org>.
Hi Jacques,
Sorry for my late reply.
Thanks for closing the infra issue.
I was side-tracked by other work and not able to work on it yet.
As there were discussion on an alternative like PIWIK,
we can take some time to look into it?
Regards,
James
On 2017-06-28 21:56 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> Closed
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 18/06/2017 à 17:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > Hi James, All,
> >
> > What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> > Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit :
> >> Hi Taher,
> >>
> >> Ok, I will also put them in wiki.
> >> Thank you for the review.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> James Yong
> >>
> >> On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi James,
> >>>
> >>> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of
> >>> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get
> >>> more landings on our relevant pages.
> >>>
> >>> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus
> >>> on it. For example you specify information like:
> >>> - what is the statistical data to track?
> >>> - what actions to take based on this data?
> >>> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages
> >>> - what content changes need to happen in our pages?
> >>> - How will this information be shared with the community?
> >>> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to
> >>> fine-tune our pages?
> >>> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Taher Alkhateeb
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Michael,
> >>>
> >>> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the
> >>> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and
> >>> arrange these links into a ââ¬ËTour / Getting Startedââ¬â¢ page. This allow new
> >>> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content
> >>> in ââ¬ËTour / Getting Startedââ¬â¢ every x number of months. Also track and
> >>> improve the conversion rate from ââ¬ËTour / Getting Startedââ¬â¢ to the download
> >>> page.
> >>> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better
> >>> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what
> >>> users search for.
> >>>
> >>> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics
> >>> admin account when done.
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jacques,
> >>>
> >>> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed
> >>> for Wiki contribution.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> James Yong
> >>>
> >>> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Michael,
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes...
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could
> >>> open the access to all Wiki contributors.
> >>>> Jacques
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit :
> >>>>> Hi Jacques,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> as I have already mentioned
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common
> >>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to
> >>> get
> >>>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If
> >>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held
> >>>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to
> >>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking,
> >>> if
> >>>>> we have a plan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> >>>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by
> >>> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy
> >>>>>> Policy page. ")
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
> >>>>>>> What are others opinions?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit :
> >>>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> >>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It seems we need to:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not
> >>> sufficient -
> >>>>>>>>>> our own)
> >>>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie
> >>> policies).
> >>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out
> >>> browser
> >>>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best
> >>> interest of
> >>>>>>>>>> our project.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> >>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So it's OK,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best
> >>> way?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira
> >>>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms
> >>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Service at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post
> >>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to
> >>> collect
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out
> >>> browser
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> participate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user
> >>> information
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do
> >>> we need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need
> >>> input from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is
> >>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit
> >>> count per
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information?
> >>> Do we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want
> >>> to do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going
> >>> to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the
> >>> analytics
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we
> >>> need to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no
> >>> spam"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages
> >>> and only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest
> >>> the use of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed
> >>> wiki pages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited
> >>> manpower.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at
> >>> Nabble.com.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Closed
Jacques
Le 18/06/2017 à 17:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Hi James, All,
>
> What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit :
>> Hi Taher,
>>
>> Ok, I will also put them in wiki.
>> Thank you for the review.
>>
>> Regards,
>> James Yong
>>
>> On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi James,
>>>
>>> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of
>>> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get
>>> more landings on our relevant pages.
>>>
>>> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus
>>> on it. For example you specify information like:
>>> - what is the statistical data to track?
>>> - what actions to take based on this data?
>>> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages
>>> - what content changes need to happen in our pages?
>>> - How will this information be shared with the community?
>>> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to
>>> fine-tune our pages?
>>> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>
>>> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the
>>> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and
>>> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new
>>> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content
>>> in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and
>>> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download
>>> page.
>>> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better
>>> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what
>>> users search for.
>>>
>>> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics
>>> admin account when done.
>>>
>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>
>>> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed
>>> for Wiki contribution.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> James Yong
>>>
>>> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes...
>>>>
>>>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could
>>> open the access to all Wiki contributors.
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> as I have already mentioned
>>>>>
>>>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common
>>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to
>>> get
>>>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If
>>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held
>>>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking?
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to
>>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking,
>>> if
>>>>> we have a plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by
>>> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy
>>>>>> Policy page. ")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>> What are others opinions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit :
>>>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems we need to:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not
>>> sufficient -
>>>>>>>>>> our own)
>>>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie
>>> policies).
>>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out
>>> browser
>>>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best
>>> interest of
>>>>>>>>>> our project.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So it's OK,
>>>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best
>>> way?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira
>>>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.
>>>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
>>>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to
>>> collect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out
>>> browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user
>>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do
>>> we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need
>>> input from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is
>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit
>>> count per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information?
>>> Do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want
>>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going
>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the
>>> analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we
>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no
>>> spam"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages
>>> and only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest
>>> the use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed
>>> wiki pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited
>>> manpower.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at
>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>