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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by Vladislav Safronov <vl...@comptek.ru> on 2000/06/23 11:14:24 UTC
RE: search engine for the Guide
Hi,
Try http://www.comptek.ru/yandex/YandexFree.html
search engine for web servers with highlighting searched words...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stas Bekman [mailto:sbekman@stason.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:10 PM
> To: Matt Sergeant
> Cc: mod_perl list
> Subject: Re: search engine for the Guide
>
>
> > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 3 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I've been thinking about it. There was one site
> that has offered me
> > > > > to provide a good search engine and they did, but the
> problem is that they
> > > > > didn't keep up with new releases, so people were
> searching the outdated
> > > > > version, which is quite bad -- I've removed the
> reference to it, after
> > > > > asking them to update their copy for a few months,
> with no results.
> > > >
> > > > Can't we use WWW::Search - If I recall correctly some
> of the sites can be
> > > > restricted to a domain, so you could build a search
> interface pretty
> > > > easily.
> > >
> > > DESCRIPTION :
> > > This class is the parent for all access methods supported by the
> > > WWW::Search library. This library implements a Perl API
> to web-based
> > > search engines.
> > >
> > > It's not the search engine -- it's a Perl API to the
> search engines. We
> > > need a search engine not the API to it. Did I miss something?
> >
> > Yes. On some of the search engines (AltaVista springs to
> mind) you can
> > search for things on particular web sites, or even links to
> particular web
> > sites. So as long as AltaVista keeps its search contents up
> to date, you
> > can leverage their engine. IIRC either Randall or Lincoln did a
> > WebTechniques article about this a few months ago.
>
> Oh, I see.
>
> But I want to stress these 2 points:
>
> 1) Currently each chapter in the Guide is a huge document, so
> doing search
> and having a hit, doesn't really help as you still have to go thru the
> page to find the exact section that you want to read. So I
> think we want a
> search engine that's not working with the master version per
> se, but with
> a copy which has name anchors for each line and:
>
> a. can bring you to exact line with match
> b. have the keyword highlighted
>
> 2) Most of the search engines have problems with keywords including
> non-alpha chars, like if you search for Apache::Registry you
> will end up
> searching for Apache and Registry since :: is ignored. Now think about
> '$r->print' 'BEGIN {', '$@', etc. All these are must for the
> doc with many
> non-alpha characters which should be searched for.
>
> What do you think?
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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RE: search engine for the Guide
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Vladislav Safronov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Try http://www.comptek.ru/yandex/YandexFree.html
> search engine for web servers with highlighting searched words...
Heh, it helps when you know Russian and have the font installed :)
Oh, I see the English link:
http://www.comptek.ru:8100/english/yandex/YandexFree.html
Thanks Vladislav, but I think we are already quite happy with the two new
engines provided by Randy and Vivek and the new version of the split
guide, I really like it :). BTW, Randy's engine highlightes the words.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stas Bekman [mailto:sbekman@stason.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:10 PM
> > To: Matt Sergeant
> > Cc: mod_perl list
> > Subject: Re: search engine for the Guide
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 3 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, I've been thinking about it. There was one site
> > that has offered me
> > > > > > to provide a good search engine and they did, but the
> > problem is that they
> > > > > > didn't keep up with new releases, so people were
> > searching the outdated
> > > > > > version, which is quite bad -- I've removed the
> > reference to it, after
> > > > > > asking them to update their copy for a few months,
> > with no results.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't we use WWW::Search - If I recall correctly some
> > of the sites can be
> > > > > restricted to a domain, so you could build a search
> > interface pretty
> > > > > easily.
> > > >
> > > > DESCRIPTION :
> > > > This class is the parent for all access methods supported by the
> > > > WWW::Search library. This library implements a Perl API
> > to web-based
> > > > search engines.
> > > >
> > > > It's not the search engine -- it's a Perl API to the
> > search engines. We
> > > > need a search engine not the API to it. Did I miss something?
> > >
> > > Yes. On some of the search engines (AltaVista springs to
> > mind) you can
> > > search for things on particular web sites, or even links to
> > particular web
> > > sites. So as long as AltaVista keeps its search contents up
> > to date, you
> > > can leverage their engine. IIRC either Randall or Lincoln did a
> > > WebTechniques article about this a few months ago.
> >
> > Oh, I see.
> >
> > But I want to stress these 2 points:
> >
> > 1) Currently each chapter in the Guide is a huge document, so
> > doing search
> > and having a hit, doesn't really help as you still have to go thru the
> > page to find the exact section that you want to read. So I
> > think we want a
> > search engine that's not working with the master version per
> > se, but with
> > a copy which has name anchors for each line and:
> >
> > a. can bring you to exact line with match
> > b. have the keyword highlighted
> >
> > 2) Most of the search engines have problems with keywords including
> > non-alpha chars, like if you search for Apache::Registry you
> > will end up
> > searching for Apache and Registry since :: is ignored. Now think about
> > '$r->print' 'BEGIN {', '$@', etc. All these are must for the
> > doc with many
> > non-alpha characters which should be searched for.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > Stas Bekman | JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker
> > http://stason.org/ | mod_perl Guide
> http://perl.apache.org/guide
> mailto:stas@stason.org | http://perl.org http://stason.org/TULARC/
> http://singlesheaven.com| http://perlmonth.com http://sourcegarden.org
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
_____________________________________________________________________
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http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide
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