You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> on 2003/03/15 18:06:18 UTC
[4.1.23] Tag soon
Hi,
I plan to tag 4.1.23 soon. The big question remaining is if we remove,
or not, the commons-fileupload related functionality.
Personally, I'm willing to ignore the issue.
Remy
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [4.1.23] Tag soon
Posted by "Jess M. Holle" <je...@ptc.com>.
I'm not a commiter or any such, but:
I'd much sooner see a stable release as soon as possible that rolls in
all the improvements since 4.1.18, than wait to remove some extra baggage.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I plan to tag 4.1.23 soon. The big question remaining is if we remove,
> or not, the commons-fileupload related functionality.
>
> Personally, I'm willing to ignore the issue.
>
> Remy
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [4.1.23] Tag soon
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> It looks like the consensus is to release with the manager web app and
> fileupload the way it currently is.
I think you didn't leave much choice, and thus forced that consensus,
which is not something to be proud of.
Anyway, let's forget about that and move forward.
> I will commit my manager changes after the release.
Please avoid putting changes in 4.1.x which don't affect actual
functionality. Beautifying patches have nothing to do there. So only
make packaging changes in 5.x.
Remy
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [4.1.23] Tag soon
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
It looks like the consensus is to release with the manager web app and
fileupload the way it currently is.
I will commit my manager changes after the release.
Glenn
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>
>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>> If the decision is made that we can not do a Tomcat release without
>> all dependent jar files being at a final stable release then I would
>> rather push to get commons to do a final stable release of fileupload
>> than remove those features from the HTMLManager.
>>
>> Regarding Cositn's issue with having fileupload.jar and
>> servlets-manager.jar
>> in /server/lib. I agree with him. Both the web application manager and
>> the webdav web application should be moved from the core of catalina to
>> packages org.apache.webapp.manager and org.apache.webapp.webdav
>> respectively.
>>
>> I am working on moving the Manager/HTMLManager from the catalina core
>> to the webapp itself. This is not as simple as just moving the jars
>> due to class loading issues and Resource Bundles. But it shouldn't
>> take too long.
>
>
> Well, I don't want to do that at this time, the risk of breaking one of
> the distributions or something else is too big.
>
> Remy
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [4.1.23] Tag soon
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>
> If the decision is made that we can not do a Tomcat release without
> all dependent jar files being at a final stable release then I would
> rather push to get commons to do a final stable release of fileupload
> than remove those features from the HTMLManager.
>
> Regarding Cositn's issue with having fileupload.jar and
> servlets-manager.jar
> in /server/lib. I agree with him. Both the web application manager and
> the webdav web application should be moved from the core of catalina to
> packages org.apache.webapp.manager and org.apache.webapp.webdav
> respectively.
>
> I am working on moving the Manager/HTMLManager from the catalina core
> to the webapp itself. This is not as simple as just moving the jars
> due to class loading issues and Resource Bundles. But it shouldn't
> take too long.
Well, I don't want to do that at this time, the risk of breaking one of
the distributions or something else is too big.
Remy
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [4.1.23] Tag soon
Posted by Henri Gomez <hg...@apache.org>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I plan to tag 4.1.23 soon. The big question remaining is if we remove,
>> or not, the commons-fileupload related functionality.
>>
>> Personally, I'm willing to ignore the issue.
>>
>
> I am ok with releasing 4.1.23 with commons-fileupload Beta 1 release.
We allready have commons-upload beta1 rpm in jpackage ;)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [4.1.23] Tag soon
Posted by Costin Manolache <cm...@yahoo.com>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>> Personally, I'm willing to ignore the issue.
>>
Then I'll ignore the issue as well.
> If the decision is made that we can not do a Tomcat release without
> all dependent jar files being at a final stable release then I would
> rather push to get commons to do a final stable release of fileupload
> than remove those features from the HTMLManager.
No, the problem is that fileupload shouldn't be in server/lib regardless
of version and release state, and HTMLManager shouldn't be bloated.
> Regarding Cositn's issue with having fileupload.jar and
> servlets-manager.jar
> in /server/lib. I agree with him. Both the web application manager and
> the webdav web application should be moved from the core of catalina to
> packages org.apache.webapp.manager and org.apache.webapp.webdav
> respectively.
>
> I am working on moving the Manager/HTMLManager from the catalina core
> to the webapp itself. This is not as simple as just moving the jars
> due to class loading issues and Resource Bundles. But it shouldn't
> take too long.
Sounds good.
You should do this refactoring in tomcat5 first - I'm not sure it's even
worth backporting.
Regarding class loading - at least for tomcat5 we agreed that JMX will
be required, and it can be used to implement all features of the manager
without having to worry about class loaders.
In addition, if JMX1.2 is used you can control access to individual
operations - which is far more granular and powerfull than "all or nothing"
approach with priviledged apps.
( it would be cool if the authenticated user could be used as Subject in the
policy file :-)
Costin
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [4.1.23] Tag soon
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I plan to tag 4.1.23 soon. The big question remaining is if we remove,
> or not, the commons-fileupload related functionality.
>
> Personally, I'm willing to ignore the issue.
>
I am ok with releasing 4.1.23 with commons-fileupload Beta 1 release.
If the decision is made that we can not do a Tomcat release without
all dependent jar files being at a final stable release then I would
rather push to get commons to do a final stable release of fileupload
than remove those features from the HTMLManager.
Regarding Cositn's issue with having fileupload.jar and servlets-manager.jar
in /server/lib. I agree with him. Both the web application manager and
the webdav web application should be moved from the core of catalina to
packages org.apache.webapp.manager and org.apache.webapp.webdav respectively.
I am working on moving the Manager/HTMLManager from the catalina core
to the webapp itself. This is not as simple as just moving the jars
due to class loading issues and Resource Bundles. But it shouldn't
take too long.
Regards,
Glenn
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org