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iBatis DAO + Hibernate?
We're needing to roll out DAO and ORM in our webapp... been evaluating
hibernate and it looks awesome, but we'd like to insulate our app from that,
has anyone tried using iBatis' DAO layer then plugging hibernate underneath
that?
-David
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Re: iBatis DAO + Hibernate?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
I haven't tried it, but I have used the DAO layer with mock
implementations, and it works just fine. There's nothing in that part of
it that is SqlMap specific. Clinton Begin says that it should work with
Hibernate, or anything else, and I would agree. For the 2.0 release,
I've been encouraging Clinton to release these as separate products.
HTH, Ted.
David Erickson wrote:
> We're needing to roll out DAO and ORM in our webapp... been evaluating
> hibernate and it looks awesome, but we'd like to insulate our app from that,
> has anyone tried using iBatis' DAO layer then plugging hibernate underneath
> that?
> -David
>
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Re: iBatis DAO + Hibernate?
Posted by Mark Lowe <ma...@talk21.com>.
Mine's an opinion from someone who's pretty good on the presentation
and servlets stuff, and a lot greener in terms of model tier
development.
I've used torque and more recently hibernate on two separate projects..
Torque seems a bit dirtier, and a pain for deprecated dependencies, but
does the job and runs fast enough.
Hibernate gives you greater control and the xdoclet support is a big
bonus. But it took a couple of days on ranting to work out what the
error messages where telling me n stuff.
I'd love to give ibatis a crack, but to be frank, i either haven't
approached the documentation in the right frame of mind or I just don't
get them. Not sure if there's xdoclet support either.
On 16 Dec 2003, at 17:58, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> I have not use OJB, so ... how much is it worth my opinion if I did
> not use it. Maybe people that used it can say a word relative to
> other DAO's.
>
> I did look at OJB, and it seamed heavy. I like light weigh. (like
> Sturts is light weight). iBatis I realy like.
>
> my 2c.
>
> .V
>
> Pedro Salgado wrote:
>> What do you think about OJB?
>> Pedro Salgado
>> On 16/12/2003 16:58, "Vic Cekvenich" <ce...@basebeans.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I would use Ibatis or Hibrenate as a DAO, not both.
>>>
>>> iBatis lets you use any SQL(corelated self join, sooner or later you
>>> will need to do a trick or tune performance), which is why I have
>>> been
>>> using it with much success; and I teach Struts with it, and there are
>>> other Struts/iBatis resources. It is ER based.
>>>
>>> Hibrenate used to be more popular before iBatis and it is more OR
>>> (which
>>> I make a minus since I work with "rows of columns", for example with
>>> DisplayTag).
>>>
>>> Either will server you very well, they are both great.
>>>
>>> (bad things IMO are JDO, EJB, JDBC)
>>>
>>> .V
>>>
>>> David Erickson wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're needing to roll out DAO and ORM in our webapp... been
>>>> evaluating
>>>> hibernate and it looks awesome, but we'd like to insulate our app
>>>> from that,
>>>> has anyone tried using iBatis' DAO layer then plugging hibernate
>>>> underneath
>>>> that?
>>>> -David
>>>
>>>
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Re: iBatis DAO + Hibernate?
Posted by Vic Cekvenich <ce...@basebeans.com>.
I have not use OJB, so ... how much is it worth my opinion if I did not
use it. Maybe people that used it can say a word relative to other DAO's.
I did look at OJB, and it seamed heavy. I like light weigh. (like Sturts
is light weight). iBatis I realy like.
my 2c.
.V
Pedro Salgado wrote:
> What do you think about OJB?
>
> Pedro Salgado
>
>
> On 16/12/2003 16:58, "Vic Cekvenich" <ce...@basebeans.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I would use Ibatis or Hibrenate as a DAO, not both.
>>
>>iBatis lets you use any SQL(corelated self join, sooner or later you
>>will need to do a trick or tune performance), which is why I have been
>>using it with much success; and I teach Struts with it, and there are
>>other Struts/iBatis resources. It is ER based.
>>
>>Hibrenate used to be more popular before iBatis and it is more OR (which
>>I make a minus since I work with "rows of columns", for example with
>>DisplayTag).
>>
>>Either will server you very well, they are both great.
>>
>>(bad things IMO are JDO, EJB, JDBC)
>>
>>.V
>>
>>David Erickson wrote:
>>
>>>We're needing to roll out DAO and ORM in our webapp... been evaluating
>>>hibernate and it looks awesome, but we'd like to insulate our app from that,
>>>has anyone tried using iBatis' DAO layer then plugging hibernate underneath
>>>that?
>>>-David
>>
>>
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Re: iBatis DAO + Hibernate?
Posted by Pedro Salgado <sa...@04web.com>.
What do you think about OJB?
Pedro Salgado
On 16/12/2003 16:58, "Vic Cekvenich" <ce...@basebeans.com> wrote:
> I would use Ibatis or Hibrenate as a DAO, not both.
>
> iBatis lets you use any SQL(corelated self join, sooner or later you
> will need to do a trick or tune performance), which is why I have been
> using it with much success; and I teach Struts with it, and there are
> other Struts/iBatis resources. It is ER based.
>
> Hibrenate used to be more popular before iBatis and it is more OR (which
> I make a minus since I work with "rows of columns", for example with
> DisplayTag).
>
> Either will server you very well, they are both great.
>
> (bad things IMO are JDO, EJB, JDBC)
>
> .V
>
> David Erickson wrote:
>> We're needing to roll out DAO and ORM in our webapp... been evaluating
>> hibernate and it looks awesome, but we'd like to insulate our app from that,
>> has anyone tried using iBatis' DAO layer then plugging hibernate underneath
>> that?
>> -David
>
>
>
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Re: iBatis DAO + Hibernate?
Posted by Vic Cekvenich <ce...@basebeans.com>.
I would use Ibatis or Hibrenate as a DAO, not both.
iBatis lets you use any SQL(corelated self join, sooner or later you
will need to do a trick or tune performance), which is why I have been
using it with much success; and I teach Struts with it, and there are
other Struts/iBatis resources. It is ER based.
Hibrenate used to be more popular before iBatis and it is more OR (which
I make a minus since I work with "rows of columns", for example with
DisplayTag).
Either will server you very well, they are both great.
(bad things IMO are JDO, EJB, JDBC)
.V
David Erickson wrote:
> We're needing to roll out DAO and ORM in our webapp... been evaluating
> hibernate and it looks awesome, but we'd like to insulate our app from that,
> has anyone tried using iBatis' DAO layer then plugging hibernate underneath
> that?
> -David
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