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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> on 2019/05/13 19:24:04 UTC
How do I go about podling I.P. clearance for the initial codebase?
Hi incubator,
I am mentoring Datasketches and I am not clear on the I.P. clearance
process for new podlings. We have a collection of filed ICLAs and SGA. What
do I do now?
Here are the resources I know of and have tried to incorporate into doing
my own homework:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html: podling guide for
I.P. clearance talks about the big picture, and then links to...
https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/: I have done this clearance for
new additions to Beam but despite the link from the podling guide it says
it is not for new projects, and then links to...
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html: linked from the above via a
couple of routes, has a self-link
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-ip-clearance which
is a dead link.
So I have looked over
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org for any
threads about the issue, or for any sign that there was a lazy consensus
clearance thread. I simply did not find anything, perhaps due to my own
skill at searching.
Any pointers or tips? Have I simply missed the details of the process in
one of those pages?
Kenn
Re: How do I go about podling I.P. clearance for the initial
codebase?
Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi Kenn,
What Dave said. And...
The copyright license (part of SGA or CCLA) needs to be verified before the copyright notices in each file are changed to Apache headers. This is described (hopefully well enough) in the incubating status https://incubator.apache.org/projects/datasketches.html under the Copyright section: "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project."
This is where you could put the date/time that the Secretary acknowledged receipt of the SGA or CCLA. If multiple documents cover parts of the code, all of them can be listed here.
Usually (but not always) Secretary knows enough from context that a document is of interest to a podling. "Not always" is the reason that it is always good to cc: private@podling when submitting documents.
Craig
> On May 13, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On May 13, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed steps.
>>
>> (2) SGAs are typically needed when the project code is donated by a
>>> company, these go to secretary@. A CCLA might substitute for that, but
>>> that is up to legal-discuss@apache. Once the IP is cleared then Infra
>>> will work with the PPMC to transfer repositories to the Apache repositories
>>> on GitBox and GitHub.
>>>
>>
>> We are at this point. When an SGA is filed, is the secretary's
>> acknowledgment of receipt all that is needed?
>
> It is usually sufficient to provide a link to the email from the secretary that acknowledges the SGA in the JIRA issue.
>
> As a mentor I do like to validate that the SGA was recorded in the foundation svn available to Members and can confirm that Datasketches SGA for repositories and the logo have been recorded.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>>
>>> Patches are welcome at GitHub.com/Apache/incubator/
>>>
>>
>> Certainly!
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi incubator,
>>>>
>>>> I am mentoring Datasketches and I am not clear on the I.P. clearance
>>>> process for new podlings. We have a collection of filed ICLAs and SGA.
>>> What
>>>> do I do now?
>>>>
>>>> Here are the resources I know of and have tried to incorporate into doing
>>>> my own homework:
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html: podling guide for
>>>> I.P. clearance talks about the big picture, and then links to...
>>>>
>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/: I have done this clearance
>>> for
>>>> new additions to Beam but despite the link from the podling guide it says
>>>> it is not for new projects, and then links to...
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html: linked from the above
>>> via a
>>>> couple of routes, has a self-link
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-ip-clearance
>>> which
>>>> is a dead link.
>>>>
>>>> So I have looked over
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org for any
>>>> threads about the issue, or for any sign that there was a lazy consensus
>>>> clearance thread. I simply did not find anything, perhaps due to my own
>>>> skill at searching.
>>>>
>>>> Any pointers or tips? Have I simply missed the details of the process in
>>>> one of those pages?
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>
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Re: How do I go about podling I.P. clearance for the initial
codebase?
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
> On May 13, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the detailed steps.
>
> (2) SGAs are typically needed when the project code is donated by a
>> company, these go to secretary@. A CCLA might substitute for that, but
>> that is up to legal-discuss@apache. Once the IP is cleared then Infra
>> will work with the PPMC to transfer repositories to the Apache repositories
>> on GitBox and GitHub.
>>
>
> We are at this point. When an SGA is filed, is the secretary's
> acknowledgment of receipt all that is needed?
It is usually sufficient to provide a link to the email from the secretary that acknowledges the SGA in the JIRA issue.
As a mentor I do like to validate that the SGA was recorded in the foundation svn available to Members and can confirm that Datasketches SGA for repositories and the logo have been recorded.
Regards,
Dave
>
>
>> Patches are welcome at GitHub.com/Apache/incubator/
>>
>
> Certainly!
>
> Kenn
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 13, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi incubator,
>>>
>>> I am mentoring Datasketches and I am not clear on the I.P. clearance
>>> process for new podlings. We have a collection of filed ICLAs and SGA.
>> What
>>> do I do now?
>>>
>>> Here are the resources I know of and have tried to incorporate into doing
>>> my own homework:
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html: podling guide for
>>> I.P. clearance talks about the big picture, and then links to...
>>>
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/: I have done this clearance
>> for
>>> new additions to Beam but despite the link from the podling guide it says
>>> it is not for new projects, and then links to...
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html: linked from the above
>> via a
>>> couple of routes, has a self-link
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-ip-clearance
>> which
>>> is a dead link.
>>>
>>> So I have looked over
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org for any
>>> threads about the issue, or for any sign that there was a lazy consensus
>>> clearance thread. I simply did not find anything, perhaps due to my own
>>> skill at searching.
>>>
>>> Any pointers or tips? Have I simply missed the details of the process in
>>> one of those pages?
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>
>>
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Re: How do I go about podling I.P. clearance for the initial codebase?
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
Thanks for the detailed steps.
(2) SGAs are typically needed when the project code is donated by a
> company, these go to secretary@. A CCLA might substitute for that, but
> that is up to legal-discuss@apache. Once the IP is cleared then Infra
> will work with the PPMC to transfer repositories to the Apache repositories
> on GitBox and GitHub.
>
We are at this point. When an SGA is filed, is the secretary's
acknowledgment of receipt all that is needed?
> Patches are welcome at GitHub.com/Apache/incubator/
>
Certainly!
Kenn
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 13, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi incubator,
> >
> > I am mentoring Datasketches and I am not clear on the I.P. clearance
> > process for new podlings. We have a collection of filed ICLAs and SGA.
> What
> > do I do now?
> >
> > Here are the resources I know of and have tried to incorporate into doing
> > my own homework:
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html: podling guide for
> > I.P. clearance talks about the big picture, and then links to...
> >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/: I have done this clearance
> for
> > new additions to Beam but despite the link from the podling guide it says
> > it is not for new projects, and then links to...
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html: linked from the above
> via a
> > couple of routes, has a self-link
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-ip-clearance
> which
> > is a dead link.
> >
> > So I have looked over
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org for any
> > threads about the issue, or for any sign that there was a lazy consensus
> > clearance thread. I simply did not find anything, perhaps due to my own
> > skill at searching.
> >
> > Any pointers or tips? Have I simply missed the details of the process in
> > one of those pages?
> >
> > Kenn
>
>
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Re: How do I go about podling I.P. clearance for the initial codebase?
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Kenneth,
I’m sorry about the state of documentation.
Let’s separate the ICLA requirement from the SGA question.
(1) Each initial committer / PPMC member needs to have an ICLA on file with secretary@apache before their account is created. The mentors are responsible for tracking this and making sure that the podling roster is up to date.
(2) SGAs are typically needed when the project code is donated by a company, these go to secretary@. A CCLA might substitute for that, but that is up to legal-discuss@apache. Once the IP is cleared then Infra will work with the PPMC to transfer repositories to the Apache repositories on GitBox and GitHub.
(3) Once the repositories are moved then further steps of Copyright and License header change can be done. These changes should be made by a PPMC member from the company making the donation.
I’m flagging this thread in order to look into documentation improvements. Patches are welcome at GitHub.com/Apache/incubator/
Regards,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 13, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi incubator,
>
> I am mentoring Datasketches and I am not clear on the I.P. clearance
> process for new podlings. We have a collection of filed ICLAs and SGA. What
> do I do now?
>
> Here are the resources I know of and have tried to incorporate into doing
> my own homework:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html: podling guide for
> I.P. clearance talks about the big picture, and then links to...
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/: I have done this clearance for
> new additions to Beam but despite the link from the podling guide it says
> it is not for new projects, and then links to...
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html: linked from the above via a
> couple of routes, has a self-link
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-ip-clearance which
> is a dead link.
>
> So I have looked over
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org for any
> threads about the issue, or for any sign that there was a lazy consensus
> clearance thread. I simply did not find anything, perhaps due to my own
> skill at searching.
>
> Any pointers or tips? Have I simply missed the details of the process in
> one of those pages?
>
> Kenn
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