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[Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Hi community!
We're the maintainers of Apache APISIX. To better present how our community
grows, we develop a tool to show contributors growing history on
https://github.com/api7/contributor-graph. Since we found it helpful, we
think maybe if it could help some other community.
**WHAT IT IS**
https://contributor-graph-api.apiseven.com/contributors-svg?chart=contributorOverTime&repo=apache/tomcat
Basically, it just shows the contributors growth over time. We would update
the graph each day, so the link would always present the real-time data.
With the graph We could easily find the contributors of tomcat grows
rapidly these years. There is some other stuff to [play around](
https://www.apiseven.com/en/contributor-graph) if you would like to give it
a try~
**HOW IT WORKS**
We use Github API to get all commits, try to find the “Github way” to
filter commits so the result data would be similar to Github, and then get
the first commit time of each user.
I found it might be a good place to place the graph on the bottom of "who
we are" page <https://tomcat.apache.org/whoweare.html>, but I'm familiar
with the structure of tomcat so I failed to find the method to create PR to
add the graph. If you found this graph useful, do you mind giving me some
hints on where should I change in the repo?
Don't hesitate to tell us if there is a better place to present this graph
other than README, or there are some other worries or other features you
would like to have~
Re: Fwd: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Shuyang Wu <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the guidance!
The problem is, I could not get the accurate commit date of each commit in
the changelog, especially for those that not bind with bugzilla. If I take
it right, the changelog would be the same or a subset of svn log, so I'm
not sure if there is anything new I could get from the changelog. One more
thing is that I go through the changelog for 5.5, 6.0, and 7.0 in 2012
(5.5.35-5.5.36, 6.0.36, and 7.0.25-7.0.35 separately), but failed to find
out new contributors. Could you help me find them?
Thanks for your time!
Best,
Shuyang
Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> 于2021年5月20日周四 上午4:16写道：
> On 19/05/2021 22:13, Shuyang Wu wrote:
> #
> <snip/>
>
> > michaelo, 2018-08-21 04:16:42 -0400 EDT
> > woonsan, 2019-01-08 00:01:45 -0500 EST
> >
> > I'm not familiar with svn at all :( so I'm not sure if I did it
> correctly.
> > Also, I failed to understand how to search with "provided by
> > <name>(<asf-id>)". I'll appreciate it if you could give me some other
> > guidance and thanks again for your time!
>
> My point is that you'll get much better contributor data from the
> changelogs:
>
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-10.0-doc/changelog.html
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-9.0-doc/changelog.html
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.5-doc/changelog.html
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/changelog.html
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/changelog.html
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/changelog.html
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/changelog.html
>
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/archive/tc5.0.x/trunk/container/webapps/docs/changelog.xml?view=co&revision=588818&content-type=text%2Fplain
>
> Before that gets tricker as the fixes don't contain IDs:
>
>
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/archive/tc4.1.x/trunk/container/RELEASE-NOTES-4.1.txt?revision=788407&view=co
>
> Note that back-porting of fixes between versions means that the above
> with give a distorted picture of contributions per committer/contributor
> but it will give a more accurate view of contributor/committer count.
>
> Mark
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Re: Fwd: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the
website
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 19/05/2021 22:13, Shuyang Wu wrote:
#
<snip/>
> michaelo, 2018-08-21 04:16:42 -0400 EDT
> woonsan, 2019-01-08 00:01:45 -0500 EST
>
> I'm not familiar with svn at all :( so I'm not sure if I did it correctly.
> Also, I failed to understand how to search with "provided by
> <name>(<asf-id>)". I'll appreciate it if you could give me some other
> guidance and thanks again for your time!
My point is that you'll get much better contributor data from the
changelogs:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-10.0-doc/changelog.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-9.0-doc/changelog.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.5-doc/changelog.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/changelog.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/changelog.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/changelog.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/changelog.html
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/archive/tc5.0.x/trunk/container/webapps/docs/changelog.xml?view=co&revision=588818&content-type=text%2Fplain
Before that gets tricker as the fixes don't contain IDs:
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/archive/tc4.1.x/trunk/container/RELEASE-NOTES-4.1.txt?revision=788407&view=co
Note that back-porting of fixes between versions means that the above
with give a distorted picture of contributions per committer/contributor
but it will give a more accurate view of contributor/committer count.
Mark
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Fwd: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Shuyang Wu <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Mark,
I try to get contributors from svn side with `svn log --quiet -v
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat | grep "^r"` and get 100
contributors in total. After removing duplicates with git, right now we
have 95 contributors till 2012 and ~150 till now (compared to 20/90 and
10/60 before).
(See
https://www.apiseven.com/en/contributor-graph?chart=contributorOverTime&repo=apache/tomcat
for the graph)
Since email that is not bound to GitHub is regarded as "anonymous"
contributors, and I could only get 31 anonymous ones from tomcat github
repo, we could say there is quite a lot of contributors lost happened
during the switch. Actually, the earliest commit of tomcat github repo I
could get is from 2006, so I could say of course there is something lost.
Talking about contributors in 2012, it seems from the data I get, there are
still no new contributors in 2012. There are some commits with "no author",
but not for 2012. (I try to figure out how to deal with "no author" but it
seems I could do nothing on my side. Please correct me if I'm wrong.) I'll
list the svn side contributors here, so maybe you could tell if anything
goes wrong.
duncan, 1999-10-08 20:05:52 -0400 EDT
(no author), 1999-10-08 20:05:52 -0400 EDT
costin, 1999-10-10 17:19:44 -0400 EDT
craigmcc, 1999-10-12 01:42:09 -0400 EDT
gonzo, 1999-10-12 03:17:47 -0400 EDT
bergsten, 1999-10-12 04:33:51 -0400 EDT
stefano, 1999-10-12 18:43:06 -0400 EDT
akv, 1999-10-12 21:12:44 -0400 EDT
mode, 1999-10-14 21:24:49 -0400 EDT
harishp, 1999-10-14 23:20:35 -0400 EDT
arun, 1999-10-15 18:26:05 -0400 EDT
mandar, 1999-10-17 14:40:06 -0400 EDT
jhunter, 1999-10-17 23:03:40 -0400 EDT
vanitha, 1999-10-18 19:49:24 -0400 EDT
jons, 1999-11-23 14:46:12 -0500 EST
pier, 1999-12-03 07:41:42 -0500 EST
rubys, 1999-12-07 20:37:20 -0500 EST
shemnon, 2000-01-12 01:14:36 -0500 EST
preston, 2000-01-17 05:17:36 -0500 EST
shachor, 2000-02-17 05:37:42 -0500 EST
jon, 2000-03-24 13:43:48 -0500 EST
jluc, 2000-03-29 14:30:26 -0500 EST
nacho, 2000-04-03 20:56:55 -0400 EDT
ed, 2000-06-15 14:58:19 -0400 EDT
alex, 2000-06-22 19:02:53 -0400 EDT
glenn, 2000-07-25 08:13:53 -0400 EDT
jiricka, 2000-07-28 17:41:44 -0400 EDT
pierred, 2000-08-11 17:32:39 -0400 EDT
remm, 2000-08-11 20:17:35 -0400 EDT
dannyc, 2000-08-16 15:53:22 -0400 EDT
horwat, 2000-08-16 20:58:20 -0400 EDT
larryi, 2000-08-26 09:03:38 -0400 EDT
santosh, 2000-10-02 18:44:57 -0400 EDT
arieh, 2000-10-06 16:42:00 -0400 EDT
eduardop, 2000-10-11 20:29:52 -0400 EDT
hgomez, 2000-11-15 06:37:25 -0500 EST
rameshm, 2000-12-15 19:23:33 -0500 EST
marcsaeg, 2000-12-21 14:24:19 -0500 EST
danmil, 2000-12-25 17:31:58 -0500 EST
keith, 2001-02-02 11:41:52 -0500 EST
kief, 2001-02-13 03:58:54 -0500 EST
melaquias, 2001-03-04 17:38:14 -0500 EST
amyroh, 2001-03-21 16:31:46 -0500 EST
clucas, 2001-03-24 01:49:30 -0500 EST
bip, 2001-04-25 21:30:27 -0400 EDT
seguin, 2001-05-12 01:52:38 -0400 EDT
jfclere, 2001-06-05 03:55:52 -0400 EDT
andya, 2001-06-13 17:26:45 -0400 EDT
mmanders, 2001-06-13 17:28:28 -0400 EDT
ccain, 2001-08-31 16:15:12 -0400 EDT
bojan, 2001-09-25 00:33:45 -0400 EDT
billbarker, 2001-10-02 01:38:21 -0400 EDT
kinman, 2001-10-03 15:26:47 -0400 EDT
patrickl, 2001-11-06 16:52:14 -0500 EST
rlubke, 2001-12-12 08:11:47 -0500 EST
manveen, 2002-01-26 15:52:58 -0500 EST
ekr, 2002-05-28 10:19:47 -0400 EDT
dsandberg, 2002-06-05 15:09:17 -0400 EDT
cks, 2002-06-20 12:16:00 -0400 EDT
mturk, 2002-06-23 01:40:29 -0400 EDT
luehe, 2002-06-26 12:50:38 -0400 EDT
morgand, 2002-07-22 14:41:34 -0400 EDT
bobh, 2002-08-14 16:54:57 -0400 EDT
jfarcand, 2002-08-22 08:48:56 -0400 EDT
idarwin, 2002-09-13 12:53:33 -0400 EDT
fhanik, 2003-02-19 15:24:10 -0500 EST
funkman, 2003-06-01 16:57:00 -0400 EDT
yoavs, 2003-06-06 23:35:38 -0400 EDT
ecarmich, 2003-08-23 21:18:44 -0400 EDT
markt, 2003-12-10 16:29:06 -0500 EST
truk, 2004-01-30 16:54:40 -0500 EST
fuankg, 2004-04-06 12:07:58 -0400 EDT
pero, 2004-09-21 03:30:32 -0400 EDT
wrowe, 2005-05-11 19:38:30 -0400 EDT
clar, 2005-06-10 12:24:35 -0400 EDT
bayard, 2005-08-04 20:24:38 -0400 EDT
jim, 2005-11-04 18:47:49 -0500 EST
jhook, 2006-03-05 14:18:11 -0500 EST
rjung, 2006-05-10 04:12:29 -0400 EDT
fcarrion, 2007-03-24 21:08:07 -0400 EDT
kkolinko, 2009-05-15 18:50:29 -0400 EDT
rahul, 2009-08-17 13:39:14 -0400 EDT
timw, 2010-02-07 02:33:25 -0500 EST
kfujino, 2010-03-31 02:08:32 -0400 EDT
jboynes, 2010-07-08 02:12:25 -0400 EDT
schultz, 2010-11-23 17:03:23 -0500 EST
slaurent, 2010-12-02 17:14:23 -0500 EST
eijit, 2011-08-26 00:36:56 -0400 EDT
olamy, 2011-08-30 04:23:49 -0400 EDT
violetagg, 2013-01-31 09:49:04 -0500 EST
kpreisser, 2013-09-24 15:10:44 -0400 EDT
fschumacher, 2014-09-19 11:25:29 -0400 EDT
ognjen, 2015-10-23 11:08:40 -0400 EDT
mgrigorov, 2015-10-27 03:50:01 -0400 EDT
huxing, 2016-08-31 10:04:33 -0400 EDT
csutherl, 2016-10-03 11:55:16 -0400 EDT
ebourg, 2017-01-20 15:24:24 -0500 EST
isapir, 2018-05-21 15:30:01 -0400 EDT
michaelo, 2018-08-21 04:16:42 -0400 EDT
woonsan, 2019-01-08 00:01:45 -0500 EST
I'm not familiar with svn at all :( so I'm not sure if I did it correctly.
Also, I failed to understand how to search with "provided by
<name>(<asf-id>)". I'll appreciate it if you could give me some other
guidance and thanks again for your time!
Best,
Shuyang
Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Wo Soyoung <wo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Mark,
I try to get contributors from svn side with `svn log --quiet -v
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat | grep "^r"` and get 100
contributors in total. After removing duplicates with git, right now we
have 95 contributors till 2012 and ~150 till now (compared to 20/90 and
10/60 before).
(See
https://www.apiseven.com/en/contributor-graph?chart=contributorOverTime&repo=apache/tomcat
for the graph)
Since email that is not bound to GitHub is regarded as "anonymous"
contributors, and I could only get 29 anonymous ones from tomcat github
repo, we could say there is quite a lot of contributors lost happened
during the switch. Actually, the earliest commit of tomcat github repo I
could get is from 2006, so I could say of course there is something lost.
Talking about contributors in 2012, it seems from the data I get, there are
still no new contributors in 2012. There are some commits with "no author",
but not for 2012. (I try to figure out how to deal with "no author" but it
seems I could do nothing on my side. Please correct me if I'm wrong.) I'll
list the svn side contributors here, so maybe you could tell if anything
goes wrong.
duncan, 1999-10-08 20:05:52 -0400 EDT
(no author), 1999-10-08 20:05:52 -0400 EDT
costin, 1999-10-10 17:19:44 -0400 EDT
craigmcc, 1999-10-12 01:42:09 -0400 EDT
gonzo, 1999-10-12 03:17:47 -0400 EDT
bergsten, 1999-10-12 04:33:51 -0400 EDT
stefano, 1999-10-12 18:43:06 -0400 EDT
akv, 1999-10-12 21:12:44 -0400 EDT
mode, 1999-10-14 21:24:49 -0400 EDT
harishp, 1999-10-14 23:20:35 -0400 EDT
arun, 1999-10-15 18:26:05 -0400 EDT
mandar, 1999-10-17 14:40:06 -0400 EDT
jhunter, 1999-10-17 23:03:40 -0400 EDT
vanitha, 1999-10-18 19:49:24 -0400 EDT
jons, 1999-11-23 14:46:12 -0500 EST
pier, 1999-12-03 07:41:42 -0500 EST
rubys, 1999-12-07 20:37:20 -0500 EST
shemnon, 2000-01-12 01:14:36 -0500 EST
preston, 2000-01-17 05:17:36 -0500 EST
shachor, 2000-02-17 05:37:42 -0500 EST
jon, 2000-03-24 13:43:48 -0500 EST
jluc, 2000-03-29 14:30:26 -0500 EST
nacho, 2000-04-03 20:56:55 -0400 EDT
ed, 2000-06-15 14:58:19 -0400 EDT
alex, 2000-06-22 19:02:53 -0400 EDT
glenn, 2000-07-25 08:13:53 -0400 EDT
jiricka, 2000-07-28 17:41:44 -0400 EDT
pierred, 2000-08-11 17:32:39 -0400 EDT
remm, 2000-08-11 20:17:35 -0400 EDT
dannyc, 2000-08-16 15:53:22 -0400 EDT
horwat, 2000-08-16 20:58:20 -0400 EDT
larryi, 2000-08-26 09:03:38 -0400 EDT
santosh, 2000-10-02 18:44:57 -0400 EDT
arieh, 2000-10-06 16:42:00 -0400 EDT
eduardop, 2000-10-11 20:29:52 -0400 EDT
hgomez, 2000-11-15 06:37:25 -0500 EST
rameshm, 2000-12-15 19:23:33 -0500 EST
marcsaeg, 2000-12-21 14:24:19 -0500 EST
danmil, 2000-12-25 17:31:58 -0500 EST
keith, 2001-02-02 11:41:52 -0500 EST
kief, 2001-02-13 03:58:54 -0500 EST
melaquias, 2001-03-04 17:38:14 -0500 EST
amyroh, 2001-03-21 16:31:46 -0500 EST
clucas, 2001-03-24 01:49:30 -0500 EST
bip, 2001-04-25 21:30:27 -0400 EDT
seguin, 2001-05-12 01:52:38 -0400 EDT
jfclere, 2001-06-05 03:55:52 -0400 EDT
andya, 2001-06-13 17:26:45 -0400 EDT
mmanders, 2001-06-13 17:28:28 -0400 EDT
ccain, 2001-08-31 16:15:12 -0400 EDT
bojan, 2001-09-25 00:33:45 -0400 EDT
billbarker, 2001-10-02 01:38:21 -0400 EDT
kinman, 2001-10-03 15:26:47 -0400 EDT
patrickl, 2001-11-06 16:52:14 -0500 EST
rlubke, 2001-12-12 08:11:47 -0500 EST
manveen, 2002-01-26 15:52:58 -0500 EST
ekr, 2002-05-28 10:19:47 -0400 EDT
dsandberg, 2002-06-05 15:09:17 -0400 EDT
cks, 2002-06-20 12:16:00 -0400 EDT
mturk, 2002-06-23 01:40:29 -0400 EDT
luehe, 2002-06-26 12:50:38 -0400 EDT
morgand, 2002-07-22 14:41:34 -0400 EDT
bobh, 2002-08-14 16:54:57 -0400 EDT
jfarcand, 2002-08-22 08:48:56 -0400 EDT
idarwin, 2002-09-13 12:53:33 -0400 EDT
fhanik, 2003-02-19 15:24:10 -0500 EST
funkman, 2003-06-01 16:57:00 -0400 EDT
yoavs, 2003-06-06 23:35:38 -0400 EDT
ecarmich, 2003-08-23 21:18:44 -0400 EDT
markt, 2003-12-10 16:29:06 -0500 EST
truk, 2004-01-30 16:54:40 -0500 EST
fuankg, 2004-04-06 12:07:58 -0400 EDT
pero, 2004-09-21 03:30:32 -0400 EDT
wrowe, 2005-05-11 19:38:30 -0400 EDT
clar, 2005-06-10 12:24:35 -0400 EDT
bayard, 2005-08-04 20:24:38 -0400 EDT
jim, 2005-11-04 18:47:49 -0500 EST
jhook, 2006-03-05 14:18:11 -0500 EST
rjung, 2006-05-10 04:12:29 -0400 EDT
fcarrion, 2007-03-24 21:08:07 -0400 EDT
kkolinko, 2009-05-15 18:50:29 -0400 EDT
rahul, 2009-08-17 13:39:14 -0400 EDT
timw, 2010-02-07 02:33:25 -0500 EST
kfujino, 2010-03-31 02:08:32 -0400 EDT
jboynes, 2010-07-08 02:12:25 -0400 EDT
schultz, 2010-11-23 17:03:23 -0500 EST
slaurent, 2010-12-02 17:14:23 -0500 EST
eijit, 2011-08-26 00:36:56 -0400 EDT
olamy, 2011-08-30 04:23:49 -0400 EDT
violetagg, 2013-01-31 09:49:04 -0500 EST
kpreisser, 2013-09-24 15:10:44 -0400 EDT
fschumacher, 2014-09-19 11:25:29 -0400 EDT
ognjen, 2015-10-23 11:08:40 -0400 EDT
mgrigorov, 2015-10-27 03:50:01 -0400 EDT
huxing, 2016-08-31 10:04:33 -0400 EDT
csutherl, 2016-10-03 11:55:16 -0400 EDT
ebourg, 2017-01-20 15:24:24 -0500 EST
isapir, 2018-05-21 15:30:01 -0400 EDT
michaelo, 2018-08-21 04:16:42 -0400 EDT
woonsan, 2019-01-08 00:01:45 -0500 EST
I'm not familiar with svn at all :( so I'm not sure if I did it correctly.
Also, I failed to understand how to search with "provided by
<name>(<asf-id>)". I'll appreciate it if you could give me some other
guidance and thanks again for your time!
Best,
Shuyang
Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> 于2021年5月17日周一 下午2:16写道：
> On 17/05/2021 03:55, Shuyang Wu wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I've updated the "anonymous" contributors, and currently there are around
> > 20 contributors in early 2012, and 90 for now (compared to 10/~60
> > separately before). Would those data be more reasonable?
>
> I am afraid these figures are still very misleading.
>
> Taking the year 2012 as an example, it shows no new contributors. A
> quick look at the changelog for Tomcat for 2012 shows that this is not
> the case. I very quickly found a handful of first time contributors and
> I only looked at a couple of months.
>
> I would be interested to see what, if any, difference the switch from
> svn to git made but I don't see a way to generate that data short of
> manually processing the changelog entries (and I am not interested
> enough in the answer to want to do that right now).
>
> For those that are interested, searching for "provided by <name>.
> (<asf-id>) should be a fairly reliable pattern for identifying names of
> contributors. You'll also need to look at (<asf-id>) as if the
> contributor was an ASF committer but not a Tomcat committer we'd
> normally recognise them that way.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 17/05/2021 03:55, Shuyang Wu wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> I've updated the "anonymous" contributors, and currently there are around
> 20 contributors in early 2012, and 90 for now (compared to 10/~60
> separately before). Would those data be more reasonable?
I am afraid these figures are still very misleading.
Taking the year 2012 as an example, it shows no new contributors. A
quick look at the changelog for Tomcat for 2012 shows that this is not
the case. I very quickly found a handful of first time contributors and
I only looked at a couple of months.
I would be interested to see what, if any, difference the switch from
svn to git made but I don't see a way to generate that data short of
manually processing the changelog entries (and I am not interested
enough in the answer to want to do that right now).
For those that are interested, searching for "provided by <name>.
(<asf-id>) should be a fairly reliable pattern for identifying names of
contributors. You'll also need to look at (<asf-id>) as if the
contributor was an ASF committer but not a Tomcat committer we'd
normally recognise them that way.
Mark
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Shuyang Wu <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Mark,
I've updated the "anonymous" contributors, and currently there are around
20 contributors in early 2012, and 90 for now (compared to 10/~60
separately before). Would those data be more reasonable?
Best,
Shuyang
Shuyang Wu <sh...@apache.org> 于2021年5月11日周二 下午11:37写道：
> Hi Christopher,
>
> Thanks for the idea! The mailing list is also a significant part of our
> community and I think we also need graphs about that. Since Kibble is
> somewhat not so handy for me right now, I'll try to fetch pony mail API and
> create graphs about it later.
>
> Best, Shuyang
>
> Wo Soyoung <wo...@gmail.com> 于2021年5月11日周二 下午11:31写道：
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> For the svn->git conversion problem, a good method I found is that use
>> Github API to filter out the "anonymous contributors" who are commit
>> authors but the commit email is not bound to a certain GitHub account. Do
>> you mind to tell if these data are helpful to the problem, then I could add
>> them to the graph data.
>>
>> And here is the list I get:
>> 0 {billbarker@apache.org 4/10/2006 1:36:19 0 UTC}
>> 1 {pero@apache.org 4/26/2006 6:10:53 0 UTC}
>> 2 {funkman@apache.org 6/20/2006 11:12:30 0 UTC}
>> 3 {jhook@apache.org 8/6/2006 23:35:29 0 UTC}
>> 4 {fcarrion@apache.org 3/25/2007 1:08:07 0 UTC}
>> 5 {rjung@apache.org 5/20/2007 17:12:08 0 UTC}
>> 6 {kkolinko@apache.org 5/21/2009 2:07:25 0 UTC}
>> 7 {idarwin@apache.org 9/12/2009 16:58:08 0 UTC}
>> 8 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
>> 9 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
>> 10 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
>> 11 {timw@apache.org 9/23/2010 10:14:54 0 UTC}
>> 12 {schultz@apache.org 12/3/2010 16:07:50 0 UTC}
>> 13 {jboynes@apache.org 7/13/2013 22:07:49 0 UTC}
>> 14 {kpreisser@apache.org 9/25/2013 14:15:05 0 UTC}
>> 15 {remm@apache.org 4/11/2014 22:42:43 0 UTC}
>> 16 {markt@apache.org 4/12/2014 20:07:54 0 UTC}
>> 17 {kkolinko@apache.org 4/12/2014 20:45:42 0 UTC}
>> 18 {schultz@apache.org 4/15/2014 1:08:22 0 UTC}
>> 19 {fschumacher@unknown 9/21/2014 12:55:15 0 UTC}
>> 20 {remm@unknown 12/1/2014 19:29:48 0 UTC}
>> 21 {markt@unknown 4/2/2015 16:59:22 0 UTC}
>> 22 {asf-sync-process@unknown 10/15/2015 9:26:08 0 UTC}
>> 23 {ognjen@apache.org 1/6/2016 8:32:30 0 UTC}
>> 24 {huxing@apache.org 10/8/2016 8:00:23 0 UTC}
>> 25 {kfujino@unknown 1/17/2017 8:35:29 0 UTC}
>> 26 {isapir@unknown 6/8/2018 20:33:09 0 UTC}
>> 27 {kkolinko@unknown 2/11/2019 10:55:26 0 UTC}
>> 28 {remm@omni 2/28/2019 17:30:21 0 UTC}
>> 29 {god@win-10-x64-dev.homeinbox.net 12/7/2019 13:27:54 0 UTC}
>> 30 {kyle.stiemann@contrastsecurity.com 9/10/2020 20:47:21 0 UTC}
>>
>> Best,
>> Shuyang
>>
>> Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> 于2021年5月10日周一 下午4:57写道：
>>
>>> On 10/05/2021 21:47, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>>> > Shuyang,
>>> >
>>> > On 5/10/21 13:21, Shuyang Wu wrote:
>>> >> Thanks for the information! I'll try to see if we could make some
>>> >> improvements on the compatibility with svn
>>> >
>>> > I understand you are more focused on commits than anything else, here,
>>> > but the community is really more defined by the mailing list(s) than
>>> the
>>> > commit history.
>>> >
>>> > Sure, commits are *one* metric, but that's only ... commits.
>>> >
>>> > I would be more interested in seeing a graph of number of mailing list
>>> > messages relative to the number of unique senders on a monthly basis.
>>> I
>>> > think *that* would be a better community metric than number-of-commits
>>> > or number-of-unique-committers.
>>>
>>> https://kibble.apache.org/
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> >
>>>
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Shuyang Wu <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Christopher,
Thanks for the idea! The mailing list is also a significant part of our
community and I think we also need graphs about that. Since Kibble is
somewhat not so handy for me right now, I'll try to fetch pony mail API and
create graphs about it later.
Best, Shuyang
Wo Soyoung <wo...@gmail.com> 于2021年5月11日周二 下午11:31写道：
> Hi Mark,
>
> For the svn->git conversion problem, a good method I found is that use
> Github API to filter out the "anonymous contributors" who are commit
> authors but the commit email is not bound to a certain GitHub account. Do
> you mind to tell if these data are helpful to the problem, then I could add
> them to the graph data.
>
> And here is the list I get:
> 0 {billbarker@apache.org 4/10/2006 1:36:19 0 UTC}
> 1 {pero@apache.org 4/26/2006 6:10:53 0 UTC}
> 2 {funkman@apache.org 6/20/2006 11:12:30 0 UTC}
> 3 {jhook@apache.org 8/6/2006 23:35:29 0 UTC}
> 4 {fcarrion@apache.org 3/25/2007 1:08:07 0 UTC}
> 5 {rjung@apache.org 5/20/2007 17:12:08 0 UTC}
> 6 {kkolinko@apache.org 5/21/2009 2:07:25 0 UTC}
> 7 {idarwin@apache.org 9/12/2009 16:58:08 0 UTC}
> 8 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
> 9 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
> 10 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
> 11 {timw@apache.org 9/23/2010 10:14:54 0 UTC}
> 12 {schultz@apache.org 12/3/2010 16:07:50 0 UTC}
> 13 {jboynes@apache.org 7/13/2013 22:07:49 0 UTC}
> 14 {kpreisser@apache.org 9/25/2013 14:15:05 0 UTC}
> 15 {remm@apache.org 4/11/2014 22:42:43 0 UTC}
> 16 {markt@apache.org 4/12/2014 20:07:54 0 UTC}
> 17 {kkolinko@apache.org 4/12/2014 20:45:42 0 UTC}
> 18 {schultz@apache.org 4/15/2014 1:08:22 0 UTC}
> 19 {fschumacher@unknown 9/21/2014 12:55:15 0 UTC}
> 20 {remm@unknown 12/1/2014 19:29:48 0 UTC}
> 21 {markt@unknown 4/2/2015 16:59:22 0 UTC}
> 22 {asf-sync-process@unknown 10/15/2015 9:26:08 0 UTC}
> 23 {ognjen@apache.org 1/6/2016 8:32:30 0 UTC}
> 24 {huxing@apache.org 10/8/2016 8:00:23 0 UTC}
> 25 {kfujino@unknown 1/17/2017 8:35:29 0 UTC}
> 26 {isapir@unknown 6/8/2018 20:33:09 0 UTC}
> 27 {kkolinko@unknown 2/11/2019 10:55:26 0 UTC}
> 28 {remm@omni 2/28/2019 17:30:21 0 UTC}
> 29 {god@win-10-x64-dev.homeinbox.net 12/7/2019 13:27:54 0 UTC}
> 30 {kyle.stiemann@contrastsecurity.com 9/10/2020 20:47:21 0 UTC}
>
> Best,
> Shuyang
>
> Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> 于2021年5月10日周一 下午4:57写道：
>
>> On 10/05/2021 21:47, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>> > Shuyang,
>> >
>> > On 5/10/21 13:21, Shuyang Wu wrote:
>> >> Thanks for the information! I'll try to see if we could make some
>> >> improvements on the compatibility with svn
>> >
>> > I understand you are more focused on commits than anything else, here,
>> > but the community is really more defined by the mailing list(s) than
>> the
>> > commit history.
>> >
>> > Sure, commits are *one* metric, but that's only ... commits.
>> >
>> > I would be more interested in seeing a graph of number of mailing list
>> > messages relative to the number of unique senders on a monthly basis. I
>> > think *that* would be a better community metric than number-of-commits
>> > or number-of-unique-committers.
>>
>> https://kibble.apache.org/
>>
>> Mark
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Wo Soyoung <wo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Mark,
For the svn->git conversion problem, a good method I found is that use
Github API to filter out the "anonymous contributors" who are commit
authors but the commit email is not bound to a certain GitHub account. Do
you mind to tell if these data are helpful to the problem, then I could add
them to the graph data.
And here is the list I get:
0 {billbarker@apache.org 4/10/2006 1:36:19 0 UTC}
1 {pero@apache.org 4/26/2006 6:10:53 0 UTC}
2 {funkman@apache.org 6/20/2006 11:12:30 0 UTC}
3 {jhook@apache.org 8/6/2006 23:35:29 0 UTC}
4 {fcarrion@apache.org 3/25/2007 1:08:07 0 UTC}
5 {rjung@apache.org 5/20/2007 17:12:08 0 UTC}
6 {kkolinko@apache.org 5/21/2009 2:07:25 0 UTC}
7 {idarwin@apache.org 9/12/2009 16:58:08 0 UTC}
8 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
9 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
10 {kfujino@apache.org 3/31/2010 6:08:32 0 UTC}
11 {timw@apache.org 9/23/2010 10:14:54 0 UTC}
12 {schultz@apache.org 12/3/2010 16:07:50 0 UTC}
13 {jboynes@apache.org 7/13/2013 22:07:49 0 UTC}
14 {kpreisser@apache.org 9/25/2013 14:15:05 0 UTC}
15 {remm@apache.org 4/11/2014 22:42:43 0 UTC}
16 {markt@apache.org 4/12/2014 20:07:54 0 UTC}
17 {kkolinko@apache.org 4/12/2014 20:45:42 0 UTC}
18 {schultz@apache.org 4/15/2014 1:08:22 0 UTC}
19 {fschumacher@unknown 9/21/2014 12:55:15 0 UTC}
20 {remm@unknown 12/1/2014 19:29:48 0 UTC}
21 {markt@unknown 4/2/2015 16:59:22 0 UTC}
22 {asf-sync-process@unknown 10/15/2015 9:26:08 0 UTC}
23 {ognjen@apache.org 1/6/2016 8:32:30 0 UTC}
24 {huxing@apache.org 10/8/2016 8:00:23 0 UTC}
25 {kfujino@unknown 1/17/2017 8:35:29 0 UTC}
26 {isapir@unknown 6/8/2018 20:33:09 0 UTC}
27 {kkolinko@unknown 2/11/2019 10:55:26 0 UTC}
28 {remm@omni 2/28/2019 17:30:21 0 UTC}
29 {god@win-10-x64-dev.homeinbox.net 12/7/2019 13:27:54 0 UTC}
30 {kyle.stiemann@contrastsecurity.com 9/10/2020 20:47:21 0 UTC}
Best,
Shuyang
Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> 于2021年5月10日周一 下午4:57写道：
> On 10/05/2021 21:47, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> > Shuyang,
> >
> > On 5/10/21 13:21, Shuyang Wu wrote:
> >> Thanks for the information! I'll try to see if we could make some
> >> improvements on the compatibility with svn
> >
> > I understand you are more focused on commits than anything else, here,
> > but the community is really more defined by the mailing list(s) than the
> > commit history.
> >
> > Sure, commits are *one* metric, but that's only ... commits.
> >
> > I would be more interested in seeing a graph of number of mailing list
> > messages relative to the number of unique senders on a monthly basis. I
> > think *that* would be a better community metric than number-of-commits
> > or number-of-unique-committers.
>
> https://kibble.apache.org/
>
> Mark
> >
>
>
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 10/05/2021 21:47, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> Shuyang,
>
> On 5/10/21 13:21, Shuyang Wu wrote:
>> Thanks for the information! I'll try to see if we could make some
>> improvements on the compatibility with svn
>
> I understand you are more focused on commits than anything else, here,
> but the community is really more defined by the mailing list(s) than the
> commit history.
>
> Sure, commits are *one* metric, but that's only ... commits.
>
> I would be more interested in seeing a graph of number of mailing list
> messages relative to the number of unique senders on a monthly basis. I
> think *that* would be a better community metric than number-of-commits
> or number-of-unique-committers.
https://kibble.apache.org/
Mark
>
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Shuyang,
On 5/10/21 13:21, Shuyang Wu wrote:
> Thanks for the information! I'll try to see if we could make some
> improvements on the compatibility with svn
I understand you are more focused on commits than anything else, here,
but the community is really more defined by the mailing list(s) than the
commit history.
Sure, commits are *one* metric, but that's only ... commits.
I would be more interested in seeing a graph of number of mailing list
messages relative to the number of unique senders on a monthly basis. I
think *that* would be a better community metric than number-of-commits
or number-of-unique-committers.
-chris
>> On 09/05/2021 21:35, Shuyang Wu wrote:
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>>> Don't hesitate to tell us if there is a better place to present this
>> graph
>>> other than README, or there are some other worries or other features you
>>> would like to have~
>>
>> I'm all for encouraging community growth but I think this graph gives a
>> rather distorted view of the data since it is only looking at GitHub
>> commits - hence the large uptick when we switched from svn to git.
>>
>> I'm not sure an automated process can extract accurate data as you'd
>> need to look carefully at the changelog and account for back-ports
>> across versions.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Shuyang Wu <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the information! I'll try to see if we could make some
improvements on the compatibility with svn
Best,
Shuyang
Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> 于2021年5月10日周一 下午1:10写道：
> On 09/05/2021 21:35, Shuyang Wu wrote:
>
> <snip/>
>
> > Don't hesitate to tell us if there is a better place to present this
> graph
> > other than README, or there are some other worries or other features you
> > would like to have~
>
> I'm all for encouraging community growth but I think this graph gives a
> rather distorted view of the data since it is only looking at GitHub
> commits - hence the large uptick when we switched from svn to git.
>
> I'm not sure an automated process can extract accurate data as you'd
> need to look carefully at the changelog and account for back-ports
> across versions.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: [Community] try to add an community growth graph to the website
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 09/05/2021 21:35, Shuyang Wu wrote:
<snip/>
> Don't hesitate to tell us if there is a better place to present this graph
> other than README, or there are some other worries or other features you
> would like to have~
I'm all for encouraging community growth but I think this graph gives a
rather distorted view of the data since it is only looking at GitHub
commits - hence the large uptick when we switched from svn to git.
I'm not sure an automated process can extract accurate data as you'd
need to look carefully at the changelog and account for back-ports
across versions.
Mark
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