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Posted to scm@geronimo.apache.org by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com> on 2006/12/06 19:44:58 UTC

versions in artifact ids (was: Re: svn commit: r483121 - in /geronimo/server/trunk: configs/client-system/pom.xml configs/jee-specs/pom.xml modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml pom.xml)

<opinion>
I think it is really loopy that we have version information in  
artifact ids.  A few people outside of the group have mentioned this  
too me too.

IMO it would be better if the artifact ids of the specs did not have  
any version muck, and the version of that module was based on the  
spec version + a revision number.

So for example, the spec here would be:

<groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
<artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management</artifactId>
<version>1.1-1</version>

(or 1.1-1-SNAPSHOT for evil mvn snapshot muck)

Anyways, I'm not going to do anything about this... but I will  
continue to point out that putting version information into  
artifactIds is a poor idea... and generally a bad one at that.
</opinion>

--jason


On Dec 6, 2006, at 7:46 AM, akulshreshtha@apache.org wrote:

> Author: akulshreshtha
> Date: Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
> New Revision: 483121
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=483121
> Log:
> GERONIMO-2629 Upgrade to J2EE Management 1.1
>
> Modified:
>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>     geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>
> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
> client-system/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
> ====================================================================== 
> ========
> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml (original)
> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
> 07:46:42 2006
> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@
>
>          <dependency>
>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
> artifactId>
> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
> artifactId>
>          </dependency>
>
>      </dependencies>
>
> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee- 
> specs/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
> ====================================================================== 
> ========
> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml (original)
> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
> 07:46:42 2006
> @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
>
>          <dependency>
>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
> artifactId>
> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
> artifactId>
>          </dependency>
>
>          <dependency>
>
> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge- 
> activemq-rar/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
> ====================================================================== 
> ========
> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml (original)
> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml Wed Dec   
> 6 07:46:42 2006
> @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
>
>                  <exclusion>
>                      <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> -                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
> artifactId>
> +                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
> artifactId>
>                  </exclusion>
>
>                  <exclusion>
>
> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
> geronimo-management/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
> ====================================================================== 
> ========
> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml  
> (original)
> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml Wed  
> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
> @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
>
>          <dependency>
>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
> artifactId>
> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
> artifactId>
>          </dependency>
>
>      </dependencies>
>
> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
> geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
> ====================================================================== 
> ========
> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml (original)
> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml Wed Dec   
> 6 07:46:42 2006
> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
>
>          <dependency>
>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
> artifactId>
> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
> artifactId>
>              <scope>provided</scope>
>          </dependency>
>
>
> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml? 
> view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
> ====================================================================== 
> ========
> --- geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml (original)
> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
> @@ -135,8 +135,8 @@
>
>              <dependency>
>                  <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> -                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
> artifactId>
> -                <version>1.0.1</version>
> +                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
> artifactId>
> +                <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
>              </dependency>
>
>              <dependency>
>
>


Re: versions in artifact ids (was: Re: svn commit: r483121 - in /geronimo/server/trunk: configs/client-system/pom.xml configs/jee-specs/pom.xml modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml pom.xml)

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
I agree for the jetty bits and the openejb bits, but not really for  
the specs... especially with the per-module versioning of them.

Though if you follow the naming scheme for the others, its more like  
jetty_5-* and openejb_2-* :-(

--jason


On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:07 AM, David Jencks wrote:

> We discussed this pretty extensively when we adopted this naming  
> scheme.  I still think the current scheme is the best choice.  My  
> reasoning behind this is that for code that we control we should  
> have a single version, such as 1.0, 1.1.2, 2.0, etc, but for code  
> that is based on something we don't control such as specs, web  
> containers, etc, something about the version of the external stuff  
> should be reflected in the artifactId.  Thus specs should get the  
> spec rev in the artifactId, and the web containers should get their  
> version in the artifactid.  Thus the "jetty" modules and configs  
> would be better named "jetty5".  The openejb configs should  
> probably be "openejb2-*".
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:
>
>> <opinion>
>> I think it is really loopy that we have version information in  
>> artifact ids.  A few people outside of the group have mentioned  
>> this too me too.
>>
>> IMO it would be better if the artifact ids of the specs did not  
>> have any version muck, and the version of that module was based on  
>> the spec version + a revision number.
>>
>> So for example, the spec here would be:
>>
>> <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management</artifactId>
>> <version>1.1-1</version>
>>
>> (or 1.1-1-SNAPSHOT for evil mvn snapshot muck)
>>
>> Anyways, I'm not going to do anything about this... but I will  
>> continue to point out that putting version information into  
>> artifactIds is a poor idea... and generally a bad one at that.
>> </opinion>
>>
>> --jason
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 7:46 AM, akulshreshtha@apache.org wrote:
>>
>>> Author: akulshreshtha
>>> Date: Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> New Revision: 483121
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=483121
>>> Log:
>>> GERONIMO-2629 Upgrade to J2EE Management 1.1
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>>> client-system/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml Wed Dec   
>>> 6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>      </dependencies>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>>> jee-specs/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
>>> 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>>> ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml Wed  
>>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
>>>
>>>                  <exclusion>
>>>                      <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>>> management_1.0_spec</artifactId>
>>> +                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>>> management_1.1_spec</artifactId>
>>>                  </exclusion>
>>>
>>>                  <exclusion>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>>> geronimo-management/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml  
>>> (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml Wed  
>>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>      </dependencies>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>>> geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml Wed  
>>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>              <scope>provided</scope>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml? 
>>> view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -135,8 +135,8 @@
>>>
>>>              <dependency>
>>>                  <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> -                <version>1.0.1</version>
>>> +                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +                <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
>>>              </dependency>
>>>
>>>              <dependency>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: versions in artifact ids (was: Re: svn commit: r483121 - in /geronimo/server/trunk: configs/client-system/pom.xml configs/jee-specs/pom.xml modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml pom.xml)

Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
We discussed this pretty extensively when we adopted this naming  
scheme.  I still think the current scheme is the best choice.  My  
reasoning behind this is that for code that we control we should have  
a single version, such as 1.0, 1.1.2, 2.0, etc, but for code that is  
based on something we don't control such as specs, web containers,  
etc, something about the version of the external stuff should be  
reflected in the artifactId.  Thus specs should get the spec rev in  
the artifactId, and the web containers should get their version in  
the artifactid.  Thus the "jetty" modules and configs would be better  
named "jetty5".  The openejb configs should probably be "openejb2-*".

thanks
david jencks

On Dec 6, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:

> <opinion>
> I think it is really loopy that we have version information in  
> artifact ids.  A few people outside of the group have mentioned  
> this too me too.
>
> IMO it would be better if the artifact ids of the specs did not  
> have any version muck, and the version of that module was based on  
> the spec version + a revision number.
>
> So for example, the spec here would be:
>
> <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management</artifactId>
> <version>1.1-1</version>
>
> (or 1.1-1-SNAPSHOT for evil mvn snapshot muck)
>
> Anyways, I'm not going to do anything about this... but I will  
> continue to point out that putting version information into  
> artifactIds is a poor idea... and generally a bad one at that.
> </opinion>
>
> --jason
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 7:46 AM, akulshreshtha@apache.org wrote:
>
>> Author: akulshreshtha
>> Date: Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>> New Revision: 483121
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=483121
>> Log:
>> GERONIMO-2629 Upgrade to J2EE Management 1.1
>>
>> Modified:
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>> client-system/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
>> 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>      </dependencies>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>> jee-specs/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
>> 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge- 
>> activemq-rar/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml Wed Dec   
>> 6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
>>
>>                  <exclusion>
>>                      <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>> management_1.0_spec</artifactId>
>> +                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>> management_1.1_spec</artifactId>
>>                  </exclusion>
>>
>>                  <exclusion>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>> geronimo-management/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml  
>> (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml Wed  
>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>      </dependencies>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>> geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml Wed Dec   
>> 6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>              <scope>provided</scope>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml? 
>> view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -135,8 +135,8 @@
>>
>>              <dependency>
>>                  <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> -                <version>1.0.1</version>
>> +                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +                <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
>>              </dependency>
>>
>>              <dependency>
>>
>>
>


Re: versions in artifact ids (was: Re: svn commit: r483121 - in /geronimo/server/trunk: configs/client-system/pom.xml configs/jee-specs/pom.xml modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml pom.xml)

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
I think you missed the point sir :-P  I was not talking about "_" vs  
"-" ...

I was suggesting that the v.v bits are you use below are whack, they  
should not be needed... all versioning should be in mavenVersion.

--jason


On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:

> I dunno...  I kinda like the artifact_v.v-mavenVersion as artifact- 
> v.v-mavenVersion seems more confusing.  I'll have to noodle on it  
> though.  I think the _ in the name clearly identifies the version  
> number as being related to the artifact content rather then the  
> version of the specs.
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:
>
>> <opinion>
>> I think it is really loopy that we have version information in  
>> artifact ids.  A few people outside of the group have mentioned  
>> this too me too.
>>
>> IMO it would be better if the artifact ids of the specs did not  
>> have any version muck, and the version of that module was based on  
>> the spec version + a revision number.
>>
>> So for example, the spec here would be:
>>
>> <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management</artifactId>
>> <version>1.1-1</version>
>>
>> (or 1.1-1-SNAPSHOT for evil mvn snapshot muck)
>>
>> Anyways, I'm not going to do anything about this... but I will  
>> continue to point out that putting version information into  
>> artifactIds is a poor idea... and generally a bad one at that.
>> </opinion>
>>
>> --jason
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 7:46 AM, akulshreshtha@apache.org wrote:
>>
>>> Author: akulshreshtha
>>> Date: Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> New Revision: 483121
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=483121
>>> Log:
>>> GERONIMO-2629 Upgrade to J2EE Management 1.1
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>>>     geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>>> client-system/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml Wed Dec   
>>> 6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>      </dependencies>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>>> jee-specs/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
>>> 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>>> ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml Wed  
>>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
>>>
>>>                  <exclusion>
>>>                      <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>>> management_1.0_spec</artifactId>
>>> +                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>>> management_1.1_spec</artifactId>
>>>                  </exclusion>
>>>
>>>                  <exclusion>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>>> geronimo-management/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml  
>>> (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml Wed  
>>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>      </dependencies>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>>> geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml Wed  
>>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
>>>
>>>          <dependency>
>>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>>              <scope>provided</scope>
>>>          </dependency>
>>>
>>>
>>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml? 
>>> view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>>> ==================================================================== 
>>> ==========
>>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml (original)
>>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>>> @@ -135,8 +135,8 @@
>>>
>>>              <dependency>
>>>                  <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>>> -                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> -                <version>1.0.1</version>
>>> +                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>>> artifactId>
>>> +                <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
>>>              </dependency>
>>>
>>>              <dependency>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Matt Hogstrom
> matt@hogstrom.org
>
>


Re: versions in artifact ids (was: Re: svn commit: r483121 - in /geronimo/server/trunk: configs/client-system/pom.xml configs/jee-specs/pom.xml modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml pom.xml)

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
I dunno...  I kinda like the artifact_v.v-mavenVersion as artifact- 
v.v-mavenVersion seems more confusing.  I'll have to noodle on it  
though.  I think the _ in the name clearly identifies the version  
number as being related to the artifact content rather then the  
version of the specs.

On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:

> <opinion>
> I think it is really loopy that we have version information in  
> artifact ids.  A few people outside of the group have mentioned  
> this too me too.
>
> IMO it would be better if the artifact ids of the specs did not  
> have any version muck, and the version of that module was based on  
> the spec version + a revision number.
>
> So for example, the spec here would be:
>
> <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
> <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management</artifactId>
> <version>1.1-1</version>
>
> (or 1.1-1-SNAPSHOT for evil mvn snapshot muck)
>
> Anyways, I'm not going to do anything about this... but I will  
> continue to point out that putting version information into  
> artifactIds is a poor idea... and generally a bad one at that.
> </opinion>
>
> --jason
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 7:46 AM, akulshreshtha@apache.org wrote:
>
>> Author: akulshreshtha
>> Date: Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>> New Revision: 483121
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=483121
>> Log:
>> GERONIMO-2629 Upgrade to J2EE Management 1.1
>>
>> Modified:
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>>     geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>> client-system/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/client-system/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
>> 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>      </dependencies>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/configs/ 
>> jee-specs/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/configs/jee-specs/pom.xml Wed Dec  6  
>> 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge- 
>> activemq-rar/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ge-activemq-rar/pom.xml Wed Dec   
>> 6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
>>
>>                  <exclusion>
>>                      <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>> management_1.0_spec</artifactId>
>> +                    <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee- 
>> management_1.1_spec</artifactId>
>>                  </exclusion>
>>
>>                  <exclusion>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>> geronimo-management/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml  
>> (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-management/pom.xml Wed  
>> Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>      </dependencies>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/modules/ 
>> geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml?view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/modules/geronimo-tomcat/pom.xml Wed Dec   
>> 6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
>>
>>          <dependency>
>>              <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +            <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>>              <scope>provided</scope>
>>          </dependency>
>>
>>
>> Modified: geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml? 
>> view=diff&rev=483121&r1=483120&r2=483121
>> ===================================================================== 
>> =========
>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml (original)
>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/pom.xml Wed Dec  6 07:46:42 2006
>> @@ -135,8 +135,8 @@
>>
>>              <dependency>
>>                  <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.specs</groupId>
>> -                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.0_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> -                <version>1.0.1</version>
>> +                <artifactId>geronimo-j2ee-management_1.1_spec</ 
>> artifactId>
>> +                <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
>>              </dependency>
>>
>>              <dependency>
>>
>>
>
>

Matt Hogstrom
matt@hogstrom.org