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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Paul Robinson <pa...@permeance.com.au> on 2008/07/31 16:47:22 UTC
Product question
Hi,
I have a client who has the following requirement:
Background:
They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with
many configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging,
material etc
- Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
- Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
- Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
- Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the
product to the cabinet maker
I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems
to really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in
the normal order process and it requests them to enter the specifications.
Any ideas would be appreciated
Regards,
Paul
Re: Product question
Posted by Bilgin Ibryam <bi...@iguanait.com>.
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 00:36 +0800, Paul Robinson wrote:
> Thanks for the advice, I can't work out how to make it possible for a
> user to enter a value e.g Width using teh configuration option question.
> The only way I can get things to appear is as a radio button or a check box.
>
Paul,
the radio buttons can be rendered also as select buttons. For this, you
have to change renderSingleChoiceWithRadioButtons variable in
PrepareConfigForm.groovy file.
For your requirements the best option would be to create a configurable
product, where some(or all) the options are virtual products.
This functionality is still not implemented but I think to work on it
soon (as soon as I have some time).
Bilgin
Re: Product question
Posted by Paul Robinson <pa...@permeance.com.au>.
Thanks for the advice, I can't work out how to make it possible for a
user to enter a value e.g Width using teh configuration option question.
The only way I can get things to appear is as a radio button or a check box.
BJ Freeman wrote:
> in the configuration portion you can ask questions.
> This should take care the options problem.
> I think there might be custom code to put the answer to the question
> into a sub-assembly
> The cabinet maker should not see the order but the productions run
> it has the task called out with the parameter from the order.
> again part of this might be custom code.
>
>
> Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 8:36 AM:
>
>> Thanks for the prompt reply.
>>
>> Yes, the production run is almost the perfect fit, unfortunately the
>> only way I can see advising the cabinet maker is either to:
>>
>> 1. Create a product for all configuration options e.g. Width_1000mm,
>> Width_1100mm, Width_1200mm, Height_1000mm, Height_1100mm, Height_1200mm
>> - that sounds like a bit of a nightmare to me and fairly inflexible
>> 2. Use the description of the line item in the order and require the
>> cabinet maker to open the order from their Production Run in the job
>> shop. Not ideal but simpler than the former.
>>
>> Other ideas are always welcome!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> the configurable product seems a good fit since you get a production run
>>> , in manufacturing.
>>> you would then have this production run sent to the cabinet maker
>>> that is custom code though.
>>> the trick is to make the configurable detailed enough and have the task
>>> in the production run that the cabinet maker understands.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 7:47 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a client who has the following requirement:
>>>>
>>>> Background:
>>>>
>>>> They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with
>>>> many configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging,
>>>> material etc
>>>>
>>>> - Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
>>>> - Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
>>>> - Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
>>>> - Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
>>>>
>>>> I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the
>>>> product to the cabinet maker
>>>>
>>>> I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems
>>>> to really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in
>>>> the normal order process and it requests them to enter the
>>>> specifications.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas would be appreciated
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
Re: Product question
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
in the configuration portion you can ask questions.
This should take care the options problem.
I think there might be custom code to put the answer to the question
into a sub-assembly
The cabinet maker should not see the order but the productions run
it has the task called out with the parameter from the order.
again part of this might be custom code.
Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 8:36 AM:
> Thanks for the prompt reply.
>
> Yes, the production run is almost the perfect fit, unfortunately the
> only way I can see advising the cabinet maker is either to:
>
> 1. Create a product for all configuration options e.g. Width_1000mm,
> Width_1100mm, Width_1200mm, Height_1000mm, Height_1100mm, Height_1200mm
> - that sounds like a bit of a nightmare to me and fairly inflexible
> 2. Use the description of the line item in the order and require the
> cabinet maker to open the order from their Production Run in the job
> shop. Not ideal but simpler than the former.
>
> Other ideas are always welcome!
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> the configurable product seems a good fit since you get a production run
>> , in manufacturing.
>> you would then have this production run sent to the cabinet maker
>> that is custom code though.
>> the trick is to make the configurable detailed enough and have the task
>> in the production run that the cabinet maker understands.
>>
>>
>> Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 7:47 AM:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a client who has the following requirement:
>>>
>>> Background:
>>>
>>> They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with
>>> many configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging,
>>> material etc
>>>
>>> - Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
>>> - Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
>>> - Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
>>> - Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
>>>
>>> I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the
>>> product to the cabinet maker
>>>
>>> I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems
>>> to really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in
>>> the normal order process and it requests them to enter the
>>> specifications.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Product question
Posted by Paul Robinson <pa...@permeance.com.au>.
I could, but as I would have to create a product for the specification
options e.g. width, height, depth
Ideally, I would have a configurable option where the Sales Person can
enter the value for the configuration option rather than selecting, but
I assume this is a fundamental function of configuration.
Bruno Busco wrote:
> Shouldn't you have something similar to this?
> http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ecommerce/control/product/~category_id=PROMOTIONS/~product_id=PC001
>
> -Bruno
>
> 2008/7/31 Paul Robinson <pa...@permeance.com.au>
>
>
>> Thanks for the prompt reply.
>>
>> Yes, the production run is almost the perfect fit, unfortunately the only
>> way I can see advising the cabinet maker is either to:
>>
>> 1. Create a product for all configuration options e.g. Width_1000mm,
>> Width_1100mm, Width_1200mm, Height_1000mm, Height_1100mm, Height_1200mm -
>> that sounds like a bit of a nightmare to me and fairly inflexible
>> 2. Use the description of the line item in the order and require the
>> cabinet maker to open the order from their Production Run in the job shop.
>> Not ideal but simpler than the former.
>>
>> Other ideas are always welcome!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> the configurable product seems a good fit since you get a production run
>>> , in manufacturing.
>>> you would then have this production run sent to the cabinet maker
>>> that is custom code though.
>>> the trick is to make the configurable detailed enough and have the task
>>> in the production run that the cabinet maker understands.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 7:47 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a client who has the following requirement:
>>>>
>>>> Background:
>>>>
>>>> They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with
>>>> many configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging,
>>>> material etc
>>>>
>>>> - Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
>>>> - Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
>>>> - Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
>>>> - Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
>>>>
>>>> I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the
>>>> product to the cabinet maker
>>>>
>>>> I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems
>>>> to really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in
>>>> the normal order process and it requests them to enter the
>>>> specifications.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas would be appreciated
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Product question
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
Shouldn't you have something similar to this?
http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ecommerce/control/product/~category_id=PROMOTIONS/~product_id=PC001
-Bruno
2008/7/31 Paul Robinson <pa...@permeance.com.au>
> Thanks for the prompt reply.
>
> Yes, the production run is almost the perfect fit, unfortunately the only
> way I can see advising the cabinet maker is either to:
>
> 1. Create a product for all configuration options e.g. Width_1000mm,
> Width_1100mm, Width_1200mm, Height_1000mm, Height_1100mm, Height_1200mm -
> that sounds like a bit of a nightmare to me and fairly inflexible
> 2. Use the description of the line item in the order and require the
> cabinet maker to open the order from their Production Run in the job shop.
> Not ideal but simpler than the former.
>
> Other ideas are always welcome!
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> the configurable product seems a good fit since you get a production run
>> , in manufacturing.
>> you would then have this production run sent to the cabinet maker
>> that is custom code though.
>> the trick is to make the configurable detailed enough and have the task
>> in the production run that the cabinet maker understands.
>>
>>
>> Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 7:47 AM:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a client who has the following requirement:
>>>
>>> Background:
>>>
>>> They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with
>>> many configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging,
>>> material etc
>>>
>>> - Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
>>> - Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
>>> - Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
>>> - Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
>>>
>>> I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the
>>> product to the cabinet maker
>>>
>>> I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems
>>> to really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in
>>> the normal order process and it requests them to enter the
>>> specifications.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Product question
Posted by Paul Robinson <pa...@permeance.com.au>.
Thanks for the prompt reply.
Yes, the production run is almost the perfect fit, unfortunately the
only way I can see advising the cabinet maker is either to:
1. Create a product for all configuration options e.g. Width_1000mm,
Width_1100mm, Width_1200mm, Height_1000mm, Height_1100mm, Height_1200mm
- that sounds like a bit of a nightmare to me and fairly inflexible
2. Use the description of the line item in the order and require the
cabinet maker to open the order from their Production Run in the job
shop. Not ideal but simpler than the former.
Other ideas are always welcome!
Regards,
Paul
BJ Freeman wrote:
> the configurable product seems a good fit since you get a production run
> , in manufacturing.
> you would then have this production run sent to the cabinet maker
> that is custom code though.
> the trick is to make the configurable detailed enough and have the task
> in the production run that the cabinet maker understands.
>
>
> Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 7:47 AM:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a client who has the following requirement:
>>
>> Background:
>>
>> They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with
>> many configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging,
>> material etc
>>
>> - Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
>> - Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
>> - Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
>> - Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
>>
>> I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the
>> product to the cabinet maker
>>
>> I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems
>> to really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in
>> the normal order process and it requests them to enter the specifications.
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Product question
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
the configurable product seems a good fit since you get a production run
, in manufacturing.
you would then have this production run sent to the cabinet maker
that is custom code though.
the trick is to make the configurable detailed enough and have the task
in the production run that the cabinet maker understands.
Paul Robinson sent the following on 7/31/2008 7:47 AM:
> Hi,
>
> I have a client who has the following requirement:
>
> Background:
>
> They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with
> many configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging,
> material etc
>
> - Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
> - Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
> - Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
> - Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
>
> I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the
> product to the cabinet maker
>
> I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems
> to really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in
> the normal order process and it requests them to enter the specifications.
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>
Re: Product question
Posted by Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>.
Hi Paul
I've never used it but I think there is a way to attach a survey to a
product so that you can ask the user a series of questions. I'm not
sure if would be suitable but it's probably worth a look.
Regards
Scott
2008/8/1 Paul Robinson <pa...@permeance.com.au>:
> Hi,
>
> I have a client who has the following requirement:
>
> Background:
>
> They sell custom built office furniture i.e. a desk built to size with many
> configurations including height,width, depth, finishing, edging, material
> etc
>
> - Customer wants and gets measured up for a desk
> - Sales person will specify the desk (currently hand written)
> - Sales person then gives hand written spec to the cabinet maker
> - Cabinet maker makes the desk to the specifications
>
> I need to work out a way of communicating the specification of the product
> to the cabinet maker
>
> I have tried configurable products, product features but nothing seems to
> really fit. The ideal situation is the sales person adds a product in the
> normal order process and it requests them to enter the specifications.
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>