Re: Issue with 3.8.2 and support status of 3.6.3, 3.5.X, 3.3.X and .3.2.X

[Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>]

Howdy,

I was chased away from Brew many times with the words "it's not a version
manager" :)

Yes, Brew is a tool that helps you install stuff, but it really focus on
"latest", and does not have a notion of package "version", they solve it
(correct me if I'm wrong), by doing some trickeries around formulas (so
X.0.1 and X.0.2 are actually TWO formulas).

In short, I don\t want to be smartxss, but:
- are you sure Brew is the tool you want to provision Maven?
- Are you aware of SDKMAN (https://sdkman.io/) for example, that is able to
do exactly what you need, out of the box?

But in general, I am completely aligned with Karl, try latest (as you
noticed, soon 3.8.3)

HTH
Tamas



On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:41 AM Fred Cooke <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Karl,
>
> Thank you very much for your response and for all your work over the years!
> :-)
>
> Now that I'm awake and not desperate to go to bed, I found the issue
> reported by someone else, but NOT on maven:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MINVOKER-283
>
> However the comment from Michael Osipov suggests that it probably has been
> identified in Maven and is likely included with 3.8.3 which (awesome to
> hear) is coming out very soon.
>
> Thanks to everyone who jumped on the ticket. I'll add my 2c there in a
> minute - it's already closed (harsh) but a bit of follow up is necessary.
>
> To be clear, I wasn't complaining about Maven, I've been using it since
> 2.0.4 or maybe earlier and have always been a huge fan. It's a hairy beast
> and progress necessitates making calls to break things sometimes. I don't
> know if that's what this is, or if it's just a regression because hairy,
> but either way, it's normal for software to have various issues over
> various versions through its lifetime. The issue is that Brew has a very
> narrow view of "use only the latest" which is never practical. Such
> impractical views are regularly the work of Apple and deciphels thereof but
> you won't find that in Debian where you can get stuff from WAY back IF you
> need it. Same for ubu and I imagine same for most distros. I mean, look at
> maven central, you need something from 2005? No problem. Brew: You need
> something from LAST WEEK - absolutely not! :-D Hilarious.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred.
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:11, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 30.09.21 15:49, Fred Cooke wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We've hit an issue with maven 3.8.2 which a lot of our clients use on
> > macs
> > > through Brew and although brew supports the latest 3.8, 3.5, 3.3, 3.2
> > > versions it does not support 3.8.1 which doesn't have the regression
> and
> > > does not have 3.6 which was also fine for our purposes.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if the issue we've got has been reported (not by me at
> > least)
> > > and I can certainly get that information, but it'd be helpful if
> someone
> > > like Robert of Stephen could chime in on this PR:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/86192 < Put 3.6.3 back
> in
> > > Brew on mac as an option.
> >
> > First It would be very helpful to know about what you are talking? Have
> > you created an JIRA issue for it? Have you checked the JIRA for it if
> > one already exist?
> >
> > Furthermore If someone has an issue with a particular Maven version than
> > use the most recent one of that's not possible go down one
> > version...that's it...
> >
> > Most important here is to report such things. If we don't know anything
> > how could we know and even more important how could we fix it..
> >
> > Another thing is why should one of our devs get into a homebrew parts?
> > Also as Michael already wrote...
> >
> >  > The general approach is that every new version supersedes old
> > version. There is no old minor version support.
> >
> >  > Forget anything before 3.5.4 or even 3.6.3. If 3.8.3 proves to be
> > regression-free, forget 3.6.3 as
> >
> > Always use the most recent one...
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> >
> > >
> > > I don't mind if in support or against my comments and intent, just keen
> > to
> > > see a resolution for ~50 developers :-D
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Fred (3am, off to bed!)
> > >
> >
>

Re: Issue with 3.8.2 and support status of 3.6.3, 3.5.X, 3.3.X and .3.2.X

[Delany <de...@gmail.com>]

Just use the Maven wrapper. Honestly all this can be avoided.
Delany

On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 10:42, Fred Cooke <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gidday Tamas,
>
> Yeah, I'm not surprised. I don't install maven on my personal machines with
> Brew, I grab and expand the tarball and have a system of symlinks to switch
> around easily from old to new etc (I have some crappy old projects I still
> need to build with old JDK and old Maven).
>
> But at work, Mac. With corporate spyware, no less. And Brew is how we get
> OpenSSL, Git, Maven, OpenJDK, and Branchout (a great tool a friend of mine
> wrote that I've been contributing to as much as I can, not perfect yet, but
> pretty good depending on your style/needs).
>
> My hope was that I could set a Maven@3.8.1 dependency in Branchout's brew
> project to avoid 3.8.2, however I saw it wasn't there, but ancient stuff
> WAS there, and thought "sweet, I'll just contribute it", but nope, not so
> fast :-D What's amazing to me is that they wouldn't accept a legit 3.6 but
> have 3.5, 3.3, and 3.2 - all great versions back in their day, but all
> obsolete outside of say super old fashioned slow adopting banks or
> whatever. That's mind blowing. I'd do a PR to remove the older ones, but
> someone might be using them, and I couldn't live with myself, however the
> inconsistency totally bothers me :-D
>
> Always game to "try latest" but when it's work, continuity and stability
> are needed, and Brew certainly doesn't provide that. If 3.8.3 is a fizzer
> [1] I'll add a "tap" of 3.8.1 to Branchout side by side with the branchout
> formula files and depend directly on that. Then it'll be stable. But that
> seems like a lot of work for something that could be supported out of the
> box especially considering formulae are text files and no hosting is
> required...
>
> Wasn't aware of sdkman, but I don't decide what dozens of mac users use.
> Used to be fink, then it was ports, now it's brew, it's probably not the
> last project to try to fill the voids apple leaves. :-)
>
> To be fair, it's worked well up until now, just 3.8.2 didn't cut the
> mustard for us, but I'm sure along the way there were flaws in the 3.6
> series that were deal breakers for others while they were fine for us. Such
> is life :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred.
>
> [1] Firework where only the fuse burns (fizzes) leaving you wondering if
> it's about to blow, ruining the excitement, and causing a gap in the fun
> while you wait until it's probably safe to pick up :-D
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 19:04, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > I was chased away from Brew many times with the words "it's not a version
> > manager" :)
> >
> > Yes, Brew is a tool that helps you install stuff, but it really focus on
> > "latest", and does not have a notion of package "version", they solve it
> > (correct me if I'm wrong), by doing some trickeries around formulas (so
> > X.0.1 and X.0.2 are actually TWO formulas).
> >
> > In short, I don\t want to be smartxss, but:
> > - are you sure Brew is the tool you want to provision Maven?
> > - Are you aware of SDKMAN (https://sdkman.io/) for example, that is able
> > to
> > do exactly what you need, out of the box?
> >
> > But in general, I am completely aligned with Karl, try latest (as you
> > noticed, soon 3.8.3)
> >
> > HTH
> > Tamas
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:41 AM Fred Cooke <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Karl,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your response and for all your work over the
> > years!
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Now that I'm awake and not desperate to go to bed, I found the issue
> > > reported by someone else, but NOT on maven:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MINVOKER-283
> > >
> > > However the comment from Michael Osipov suggests that it probably has
> > been
> > > identified in Maven and is likely included with 3.8.3 which (awesome to
> > > hear) is coming out very soon.
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone who jumped on the ticket. I'll add my 2c there in a
> > > minute - it's already closed (harsh) but a bit of follow up is
> necessary.
> > >
> > > To be clear, I wasn't complaining about Maven, I've been using it since
> > > 2.0.4 or maybe earlier and have always been a huge fan. It's a hairy
> > beast
> > > and progress necessitates making calls to break things sometimes. I
> don't
> > > know if that's what this is, or if it's just a regression because
> hairy,
> > > but either way, it's normal for software to have various issues over
> > > various versions through its lifetime. The issue is that Brew has a
> very
> > > narrow view of "use only the latest" which is never practical. Such
> > > impractical views are regularly the work of Apple and deciphels thereof
> > but
> > > you won't find that in Debian where you can get stuff from WAY back IF
> > you
> > > need it. Same for ubu and I imagine same for most distros. I mean, look
> > at
> > > maven central, you need something from 2005? No problem. Brew: You need
> > > something from LAST WEEK - absolutely not! :-D Hilarious.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Fred.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:11, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On 30.09.21 15:49, Fred Cooke wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > We've hit an issue with maven 3.8.2 which a lot of our clients use
> on
> > > > macs
> > > > > through Brew and although brew supports the latest 3.8, 3.5, 3.3,
> 3.2
> > > > > versions it does not support 3.8.1 which doesn't have the
> regression
> > > and
> > > > > does not have 3.6 which was also fine for our purposes.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure if the issue we've got has been reported (not by me at
> > > > least)
> > > > > and I can certainly get that information, but it'd be helpful if
> > > someone
> > > > > like Robert of Stephen could chime in on this PR:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/86192 < Put 3.6.3
> > back
> > > in
> > > > > Brew on mac as an option.
> > > >
> > > > First It would be very helpful to know about what you are talking?
> Have
> > > > you created an JIRA issue for it? Have you checked the JIRA for it if
> > > > one already exist?
> > > >
> > > > Furthermore If someone has an issue with a particular Maven version
> > than
> > > > use the most recent one of that's not possible go down one
> > > > version...that's it...
> > > >
> > > > Most important here is to report such things. If we don't know
> anything
> > > > how could we know and even more important how could we fix it..
> > > >
> > > > Another thing is why should one of our devs get into a homebrew
> parts?
> > > > Also as Michael already wrote...
> > > >
> > > >  > The general approach is that every new version supersedes old
> > > > version. There is no old minor version support.
> > > >
> > > >  > Forget anything before 3.5.4 or even 3.6.3. If 3.8.3 proves to be
> > > > regression-free, forget 3.6.3 as
> > > >
> > > > Always use the most recent one...
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards
> > > > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't mind if in support or against my comments and intent, just
> > keen
> > > > to
> > > > > see a resolution for ~50 developers :-D
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Fred (3am, off to bed!)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Issue with 3.8.2 and support status of 3.6.3, 3.5.X, 3.3.X and .3.2.X

[Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>]

Howdy,

So my personal experience: I did stick with Homebrew on mac, while I was on
macs,
then switched to linux and used Linuxbrew (nowaday the two are merged :D ),
but
Brew was always pissing me off when it came to Java/Java related tooling.

I use (linux)brew even today for some "edge" _native_ CLI tools (for GUI
apps there
is flatpak), for things like Go, Hugo, Packer, HaProxy etc, but I really
stopped using Brew
for anything that is Java related, as it became a real PITA: it started
installing some
Java runtimes you did not ask for (to satisfy formula dep) while you had
adoptopen8
installed, and so on and so on.

Since, I switched "anything that has to do with Java" to SDKman, it is
great experience, at least it was like a revelation for me after brew...

HTH
Tamas

On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 10:42 AM Fred Cooke <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gidday Tamas,
>
> Yeah, I'm not surprised. I don't install maven on my personal machines with
> Brew, I grab and expand the tarball and have a system of symlinks to switch
> around easily from old to new etc (I have some crappy old projects I still
> need to build with old JDK and old Maven).
>
> But at work, Mac. With corporate spyware, no less. And Brew is how we get
> OpenSSL, Git, Maven, OpenJDK, and Branchout (a great tool a friend of mine
> wrote that I've been contributing to as much as I can, not perfect yet, but
> pretty good depending on your style/needs).
>
> My hope was that I could set a Maven@3.8.1 dependency in Branchout's brew
> project to avoid 3.8.2, however I saw it wasn't there, but ancient stuff
> WAS there, and thought "sweet, I'll just contribute it", but nope, not so
> fast :-D What's amazing to me is that they wouldn't accept a legit 3.6 but
> have 3.5, 3.3, and 3.2 - all great versions back in their day, but all
> obsolete outside of say super old fashioned slow adopting banks or
> whatever. That's mind blowing. I'd do a PR to remove the older ones, but
> someone might be using them, and I couldn't live with myself, however the
> inconsistency totally bothers me :-D
>
> Always game to "try latest" but when it's work, continuity and stability
> are needed, and Brew certainly doesn't provide that. If 3.8.3 is a fizzer
> [1] I'll add a "tap" of 3.8.1 to Branchout side by side with the branchout
> formula files and depend directly on that. Then it'll be stable. But that
> seems like a lot of work for something that could be supported out of the
> box especially considering formulae are text files and no hosting is
> required...
>
> Wasn't aware of sdkman, but I don't decide what dozens of mac users use.
> Used to be fink, then it was ports, now it's brew, it's probably not the
> last project to try to fill the voids apple leaves. :-)
>
> To be fair, it's worked well up until now, just 3.8.2 didn't cut the
> mustard for us, but I'm sure along the way there were flaws in the 3.6
> series that were deal breakers for others while they were fine for us. Such
> is life :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred.
>
> [1] Firework where only the fuse burns (fizzes) leaving you wondering if
> it's about to blow, ruining the excitement, and causing a gap in the fun
> while you wait until it's probably safe to pick up :-D
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 19:04, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > I was chased away from Brew many times with the words "it's not a version
> > manager" :)
> >
> > Yes, Brew is a tool that helps you install stuff, but it really focus on
> > "latest", and does not have a notion of package "version", they solve it
> > (correct me if I'm wrong), by doing some trickeries around formulas (so
> > X.0.1 and X.0.2 are actually TWO formulas).
> >
> > In short, I don\t want to be smartxss, but:
> > - are you sure Brew is the tool you want to provision Maven?
> > - Are you aware of SDKMAN (https://sdkman.io/) for example, that is able
> > to
> > do exactly what you need, out of the box?
> >
> > But in general, I am completely aligned with Karl, try latest (as you
> > noticed, soon 3.8.3)
> >
> > HTH
> > Tamas
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:41 AM Fred Cooke <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Karl,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your response and for all your work over the
> > years!
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Now that I'm awake and not desperate to go to bed, I found the issue
> > > reported by someone else, but NOT on maven:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MINVOKER-283
> > >
> > > However the comment from Michael Osipov suggests that it probably has
> > been
> > > identified in Maven and is likely included with 3.8.3 which (awesome to
> > > hear) is coming out very soon.
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone who jumped on the ticket. I'll add my 2c there in a
> > > minute - it's already closed (harsh) but a bit of follow up is
> necessary.
> > >
> > > To be clear, I wasn't complaining about Maven, I've been using it since
> > > 2.0.4 or maybe earlier and have always been a huge fan. It's a hairy
> > beast
> > > and progress necessitates making calls to break things sometimes. I
> don't
> > > know if that's what this is, or if it's just a regression because
> hairy,
> > > but either way, it's normal for software to have various issues over
> > > various versions through its lifetime. The issue is that Brew has a
> very
> > > narrow view of "use only the latest" which is never practical. Such
> > > impractical views are regularly the work of Apple and deciphels thereof
> > but
> > > you won't find that in Debian where you can get stuff from WAY back IF
> > you
> > > need it. Same for ubu and I imagine same for most distros. I mean, look
> > at
> > > maven central, you need something from 2005? No problem. Brew: You need
> > > something from LAST WEEK - absolutely not! :-D Hilarious.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Fred.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:11, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On 30.09.21 15:49, Fred Cooke wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > We've hit an issue with maven 3.8.2 which a lot of our clients use
> on
> > > > macs
> > > > > through Brew and although brew supports the latest 3.8, 3.5, 3.3,
> 3.2
> > > > > versions it does not support 3.8.1 which doesn't have the
> regression
> > > and
> > > > > does not have 3.6 which was also fine for our purposes.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure if the issue we've got has been reported (not by me at
> > > > least)
> > > > > and I can certainly get that information, but it'd be helpful if
> > > someone
> > > > > like Robert of Stephen could chime in on this PR:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/86192 < Put 3.6.3
> > back
> > > in
> > > > > Brew on mac as an option.
> > > >
> > > > First It would be very helpful to know about what you are talking?
> Have
> > > > you created an JIRA issue for it? Have you checked the JIRA for it if
> > > > one already exist?
> > > >
> > > > Furthermore If someone has an issue with a particular Maven version
> > than
> > > > use the most recent one of that's not possible go down one
> > > > version...that's it...
> > > >
> > > > Most important here is to report such things. If we don't know
> anything
> > > > how could we know and even more important how could we fix it..
> > > >
> > > > Another thing is why should one of our devs get into a homebrew
> parts?
> > > > Also as Michael already wrote...
> > > >
> > > >  > The general approach is that every new version supersedes old
> > > > version. There is no old minor version support.
> > > >
> > > >  > Forget anything before 3.5.4 or even 3.6.3. If 3.8.3 proves to be
> > > > regression-free, forget 3.6.3 as
> > > >
> > > > Always use the most recent one...
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards
> > > > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't mind if in support or against my comments and intent, just
> > keen
> > > > to
> > > > > see a resolution for ~50 developers :-D
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Fred (3am, off to bed!)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Issue with 3.8.2 and support status of 3.6.3, 3.5.X, 3.3.X and .3.2.X

[Fred Cooke <fr...@gmail.com>]

Gidday Tamas,

Yeah, I'm not surprised. I don't install maven on my personal machines with
Brew, I grab and expand the tarball and have a system of symlinks to switch
around easily from old to new etc (I have some crappy old projects I still
need to build with old JDK and old Maven).

But at work, Mac. With corporate spyware, no less. And Brew is how we get
OpenSSL, Git, Maven, OpenJDK, and Branchout (a great tool a friend of mine
wrote that I've been contributing to as much as I can, not perfect yet, but
pretty good depending on your style/needs).

My hope was that I could set a Maven@3.8.1 dependency in Branchout's brew
project to avoid 3.8.2, however I saw it wasn't there, but ancient stuff
WAS there, and thought "sweet, I'll just contribute it", but nope, not so
fast :-D What's amazing to me is that they wouldn't accept a legit 3.6 but
have 3.5, 3.3, and 3.2 - all great versions back in their day, but all
obsolete outside of say super old fashioned slow adopting banks or
whatever. That's mind blowing. I'd do a PR to remove the older ones, but
someone might be using them, and I couldn't live with myself, however the
inconsistency totally bothers me :-D

Always game to "try latest" but when it's work, continuity and stability
are needed, and Brew certainly doesn't provide that. If 3.8.3 is a fizzer
[1] I'll add a "tap" of 3.8.1 to Branchout side by side with the branchout
formula files and depend directly on that. Then it'll be stable. But that
seems like a lot of work for something that could be supported out of the
box especially considering formulae are text files and no hosting is
required...

Wasn't aware of sdkman, but I don't decide what dozens of mac users use.
Used to be fink, then it was ports, now it's brew, it's probably not the
last project to try to fill the voids apple leaves. :-)

To be fair, it's worked well up until now, just 3.8.2 didn't cut the
mustard for us, but I'm sure along the way there were flaws in the 3.6
series that were deal breakers for others while they were fine for us. Such
is life :-)

Cheers,

Fred.

[1] Firework where only the fuse burns (fizzes) leaving you wondering if
it's about to blow, ruining the excitement, and causing a gap in the fun
while you wait until it's probably safe to pick up :-D

On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 19:04, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I was chased away from Brew many times with the words "it's not a version
> manager" :)
>
> Yes, Brew is a tool that helps you install stuff, but it really focus on
> "latest", and does not have a notion of package "version", they solve it
> (correct me if I'm wrong), by doing some trickeries around formulas (so
> X.0.1 and X.0.2 are actually TWO formulas).
>
> In short, I don\t want to be smartxss, but:
> - are you sure Brew is the tool you want to provision Maven?
> - Are you aware of SDKMAN (https://sdkman.io/) for example, that is able
> to
> do exactly what you need, out of the box?
>
> But in general, I am completely aligned with Karl, try latest (as you
> noticed, soon 3.8.3)
>
> HTH
> Tamas
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:41 AM Fred Cooke <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Karl,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your response and for all your work over the
> years!
> > :-)
> >
> > Now that I'm awake and not desperate to go to bed, I found the issue
> > reported by someone else, but NOT on maven:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MINVOKER-283
> >
> > However the comment from Michael Osipov suggests that it probably has
> been
> > identified in Maven and is likely included with 3.8.3 which (awesome to
> > hear) is coming out very soon.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who jumped on the ticket. I'll add my 2c there in a
> > minute - it's already closed (harsh) but a bit of follow up is necessary.
> >
> > To be clear, I wasn't complaining about Maven, I've been using it since
> > 2.0.4 or maybe earlier and have always been a huge fan. It's a hairy
> beast
> > and progress necessitates making calls to break things sometimes. I don't
> > know if that's what this is, or if it's just a regression because hairy,
> > but either way, it's normal for software to have various issues over
> > various versions through its lifetime. The issue is that Brew has a very
> > narrow view of "use only the latest" which is never practical. Such
> > impractical views are regularly the work of Apple and deciphels thereof
> but
> > you won't find that in Debian where you can get stuff from WAY back IF
> you
> > need it. Same for ubu and I imagine same for most distros. I mean, look
> at
> > maven central, you need something from 2005? No problem. Brew: You need
> > something from LAST WEEK - absolutely not! :-D Hilarious.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Fred.
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:11, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 30.09.21 15:49, Fred Cooke wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > We've hit an issue with maven 3.8.2 which a lot of our clients use on
> > > macs
> > > > through Brew and although brew supports the latest 3.8, 3.5, 3.3, 3.2
> > > > versions it does not support 3.8.1 which doesn't have the regression
> > and
> > > > does not have 3.6 which was also fine for our purposes.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure if the issue we've got has been reported (not by me at
> > > least)
> > > > and I can certainly get that information, but it'd be helpful if
> > someone
> > > > like Robert of Stephen could chime in on this PR:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/86192 < Put 3.6.3
> back
> > in
> > > > Brew on mac as an option.
> > >
> > > First It would be very helpful to know about what you are talking? Have
> > > you created an JIRA issue for it? Have you checked the JIRA for it if
> > > one already exist?
> > >
> > > Furthermore If someone has an issue with a particular Maven version
> than
> > > use the most recent one of that's not possible go down one
> > > version...that's it...
> > >
> > > Most important here is to report such things. If we don't know anything
> > > how could we know and even more important how could we fix it..
> > >
> > > Another thing is why should one of our devs get into a homebrew parts?
> > > Also as Michael already wrote...
> > >
> > >  > The general approach is that every new version supersedes old
> > > version. There is no old minor version support.
> > >
> > >  > Forget anything before 3.5.4 or even 3.6.3. If 3.8.3 proves to be
> > > regression-free, forget 3.6.3 as
> > >
> > > Always use the most recent one...
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't mind if in support or against my comments and intent, just
> keen
> > > to
> > > > see a resolution for ~50 developers :-D
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Fred (3am, off to bed!)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>