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Open office
Are there any plans to make soft wear available for I Pad?
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Re: Open office
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 10/16/13 8:19 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>
> On 2013-10-16, at 14:08 , Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdy Louis,
>>
>> Yes, I agree the term desktop might be confusing for some - however, the
>> term is not the same as my meaning.
>>
>> Seems to me the current thinking within software development organizations
>> is to view all systems on a connectivity continuum, with even embedded
>> system designers viewing connectivity as a de facto requirement.
>>
>> This is pushing much, most more likely I believe, of the commercial work
>> and IMO many FOSS projects towards pure SAAS offerings. This is not only
>> manifest in the applications/tools developed but also in the secondary
>> materials produced. (on-line vs delivered help files, for example)
>>
>> It also seems, to me, natural that this evolution towards ubiquitous
>> connectivity continues is both driving and being shaped by the shift in
>> type of computing devices entering circulation.
>>
>> How all that IMO applies to the AOO project is this, as I was looking over
>> some of the earlier marketing material from the OO.o project with an eye to
>> re-drafting it for the current AOO project it appears to me that some of
>> the value proposition arguments put forward are less strong today.
>>
>> I was then looking to find additional ideas, attributes, which could be
>> used to base new value propositions on and/or as differentiating points.
>>
>> It seemed to me that given the current activities in the development world
>> the fact that AOO is/was designed from the ground up to work fully, with
>> all features, in an environment not requiring connectivity to public
>> communications networks might be such an attribute, at this time.
>>
>> Certainly it is not a core point, but I do believe there is real value in
>> this attribute to groups of prospective users and would be worth at least
>> some attention as materials for the project are generated.
>>
>> Thanks - and that was rather a lengthy reply...see what happens when one
>> does this off-line, sighting there with a mice warm, fresh, cup of coffee.
>>
>> //drew
>>
>
> :-) And not only was it long (I disagree that "lengthy" is a word and recall fondly the heated discussions over its coinage and incorporation into the lexicon sometime back in the 19th or 18th century—and I'm joking)—but you also didn't bottom post :-)
>
> Here's the scoop. Do you see any developer active on AOO actually working on a mobile editor for ODF?
>
> I don't.
>
> So, therefore, however quickly the rest of humanity piles into the handbasket headed to mobile heaven/hell, it doesn't seem to include the happy campers here.
>
> So, let's make a sentence out of this: Teacup In A Tempest?
>
> As to why we are not seeing non-Apple entities (not sure if MSFT's Office doings count, except for laughs) move to a tablet solution says more about how behemoths regard the market (as enterprise v. consumer) and why Apple basically won, with Google shadowing. Both entities shaped and exploited the consumer market over the enterprise and it is that consumer market that is now, as if it were a little nondetachable tail, wagging the dog.
>
> That students like the iPad—seen it with me own eyes—ought to be suggestive.
>
> At some point, there will be a mobile solution that is actually usable. I'd like to have it edit ODF. But I don't see the drivers here—on AOO—doing that.
>
I would suggest that everybody who is interested in a mobile version
should start and kick off a sub project. It can be a lightweight editor
for impress only first and can grow over time. Or start working on the
existing code base and work on a clearer separation of core and UI that
will allow over time to replace the UI with a new one that is working on
mobile devices as well.
I see that we have still some challenges in front of us to make the
desktop version better and better usable. And one of these challenges is
of course OOXML if we like it or not. But the reality is that OOXML
seems to overrun ODF and we should take this into account. Don't get me
wrong I am personally still a big fan of ODF but many users don't care
about the detail of the standard. They even don't understand the
differences and the only important point for them is that it is a
standard. And that is true for OOXML as well :-(
Juergen
> Cheers
>
> Louis
>
> PS To underscore: I'm not really being sarcastic or sardonic but do allow that I'm being a bit ironic.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2013-10-14, at 14:08 , Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kind of a sideways note to this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I rather think that this push to SAAS in the commercial world and the
>>>> reverse here, AOO not being SAAS but old fashioned desktop, is something
>>>> that should be emphasized in regards to this project and the product of
>>>> it's efforts. I believe it may not be too great a leap to say that
>>>> maintaining a free quality tool, such as AOO, for the desktop OS world
>>> does
>>>> give social benefit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't (totally or even really) disagree. And I like that you don't cave
>>> to the obligatory use of "cloud." But I also think it's not really needed
>>> to focus or emphasize the desktop element. Most large-scale users (public,
>>> private enterprises, offices, whatehaveyous) will opt for the desktop
>>> compleat suite because one or two or more of the modules are needed by
>>> their users and a mobile alternative wouldn't work very well, at least not
>>> if what you did for a living was working on big spreadsheets.
>>>
>>> But if you are a student, the idea of "desktop" might just confuse: is a
>>> laptop a desktop? And does this mean that ODF files (whatever they are) can
>>> only be edited (created, edited) on a "desktop"?
>>>
>>> Put another way, if you want to emphasize the robust and completeness of
>>> the suite, and also its expandability, via extensions, great!
>>>
>>> And then also showing how mobile apps can tie into this extant network of
>>> users only adds icing to the cake…. no?
>>>
>>>
>>>> //drew
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> louis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> rollApp charges now? How sad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No they don't, as it's beta. But I'd expect them to eventually do.
>>>>> How else would they fund it?. Banners?
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole SAAS move is about charging a monthly or yearly subscription
>>> for
>>>>> things that before were free when installed into your PC. Look at GMail,
>>>>> they don't charge you for the service, but they charge you for extra
>>> cloud
>>>>> storage.
>>>>>
>>>>> FC
>>>>> --
>>>>> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
>>> revolutionary
>>>>> act
>>>>> - George Orwell
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Open office
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
On 2013-10-16, at 14:08 , Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy Louis,
>
> Yes, I agree the term desktop might be confusing for some - however, the
> term is not the same as my meaning.
>
> Seems to me the current thinking within software development organizations
> is to view all systems on a connectivity continuum, with even embedded
> system designers viewing connectivity as a de facto requirement.
>
> This is pushing much, most more likely I believe, of the commercial work
> and IMO many FOSS projects towards pure SAAS offerings. This is not only
> manifest in the applications/tools developed but also in the secondary
> materials produced. (on-line vs delivered help files, for example)
>
> It also seems, to me, natural that this evolution towards ubiquitous
> connectivity continues is both driving and being shaped by the shift in
> type of computing devices entering circulation.
>
> How all that IMO applies to the AOO project is this, as I was looking over
> some of the earlier marketing material from the OO.o project with an eye to
> re-drafting it for the current AOO project it appears to me that some of
> the value proposition arguments put forward are less strong today.
>
> I was then looking to find additional ideas, attributes, which could be
> used to base new value propositions on and/or as differentiating points.
>
> It seemed to me that given the current activities in the development world
> the fact that AOO is/was designed from the ground up to work fully, with
> all features, in an environment not requiring connectivity to public
> communications networks might be such an attribute, at this time.
>
> Certainly it is not a core point, but I do believe there is real value in
> this attribute to groups of prospective users and would be worth at least
> some attention as materials for the project are generated.
>
> Thanks - and that was rather a lengthy reply...see what happens when one
> does this off-line, sighting there with a mice warm, fresh, cup of coffee.
>
> //drew
>
:-) And not only was it long (I disagree that "lengthy" is a word and recall fondly the heated discussions over its coinage and incorporation into the lexicon sometime back in the 19th or 18th century—and I'm joking)—but you also didn't bottom post :-)
Here's the scoop. Do you see any developer active on AOO actually working on a mobile editor for ODF?
I don't.
So, therefore, however quickly the rest of humanity piles into the handbasket headed to mobile heaven/hell, it doesn't seem to include the happy campers here.
So, let's make a sentence out of this: Teacup In A Tempest?
As to why we are not seeing non-Apple entities (not sure if MSFT's Office doings count, except for laughs) move to a tablet solution says more about how behemoths regard the market (as enterprise v. consumer) and why Apple basically won, with Google shadowing. Both entities shaped and exploited the consumer market over the enterprise and it is that consumer market that is now, as if it were a little nondetachable tail, wagging the dog.
That students like the iPad—seen it with me own eyes—ought to be suggestive.
At some point, there will be a mobile solution that is actually usable. I'd like to have it edit ODF. But I don't see the drivers here—on AOO—doing that.
Cheers
Louis
PS To underscore: I'm not really being sarcastic or sardonic but do allow that I'm being a bit ironic.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2013-10-14, at 14:08 , Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kind of a sideways note to this discussion.
>>>
>>> I rather think that this push to SAAS in the commercial world and the
>>> reverse here, AOO not being SAAS but old fashioned desktop, is something
>>> that should be emphasized in regards to this project and the product of
>>> it's efforts. I believe it may not be too great a leap to say that
>>> maintaining a free quality tool, such as AOO, for the desktop OS world
>> does
>>> give social benefit.
>>>
>>
>> I don't (totally or even really) disagree. And I like that you don't cave
>> to the obligatory use of "cloud." But I also think it's not really needed
>> to focus or emphasize the desktop element. Most large-scale users (public,
>> private enterprises, offices, whatehaveyous) will opt for the desktop
>> compleat suite because one or two or more of the modules are needed by
>> their users and a mobile alternative wouldn't work very well, at least not
>> if what you did for a living was working on big spreadsheets.
>>
>> But if you are a student, the idea of "desktop" might just confuse: is a
>> laptop a desktop? And does this mean that ODF files (whatever they are) can
>> only be edited (created, edited) on a "desktop"?
>>
>> Put another way, if you want to emphasize the robust and completeness of
>> the suite, and also its expandability, via extensions, great!
>>
>> And then also showing how mobile apps can tie into this extant network of
>> users only adds icing to the cake…. no?
>>
>>
>>> //drew
>>
>> Cheers,
>> louis
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> rollApp charges now? How sad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No they don't, as it's beta. But I'd expect them to eventually do.
>>>> How else would they fund it?. Banners?
>>>>
>>>> The whole SAAS move is about charging a monthly or yearly subscription
>> for
>>>> things that before were free when installed into your PC. Look at GMail,
>>>> they don't charge you for the service, but they charge you for extra
>> cloud
>>>> storage.
>>>>
>>>> FC
>>>> --
>>>> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
>> revolutionary
>>>> act
>>>> - George Orwell
>>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Open office
Posted by akshika akalanka <ak...@gmail.com>.
Can I help with documentation???
On Oct 16, 2013 11:38 PM, "Drew Jensen" <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy Louis,
>
> Yes, I agree the term desktop might be confusing for some - however, the
> term is not the same as my meaning.
>
> Seems to me the current thinking within software development organizations
> is to view all systems on a connectivity continuum, with even embedded
> system designers viewing connectivity as a de facto requirement.
>
> This is pushing much, most more likely I believe, of the commercial work
> and IMO many FOSS projects towards pure SAAS offerings. This is not only
> manifest in the applications/tools developed but also in the secondary
> materials produced. (on-line vs delivered help files, for example)
>
> It also seems, to me, natural that this evolution towards ubiquitous
> connectivity continues is both driving and being shaped by the shift in
> type of computing devices entering circulation.
>
> How all that IMO applies to the AOO project is this, as I was looking over
> some of the earlier marketing material from the OO.o project with an eye to
> re-drafting it for the current AOO project it appears to me that some of
> the value proposition arguments put forward are less strong today.
>
> I was then looking to find additional ideas, attributes, which could be
> used to base new value propositions on and/or as differentiating points.
>
> It seemed to me that given the current activities in the development world
> the fact that AOO is/was designed from the ground up to work fully, with
> all features, in an environment not requiring connectivity to public
> communications networks might be such an attribute, at this time.
>
> Certainly it is not a core point, but I do believe there is real value in
> this attribute to groups of prospective users and would be worth at least
> some attention as materials for the project are generated.
>
> Thanks - and that was rather a lengthy reply...see what happens when one
> does this off-line, sighting there with a mice warm, fresh, cup of coffee.
>
> //drew
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2013-10-14, at 14:08 , Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Kind of a sideways note to this discussion.
> > >
> > > I rather think that this push to SAAS in the commercial world and the
> > > reverse here, AOO not being SAAS but old fashioned desktop, is
> something
> > > that should be emphasized in regards to this project and the product of
> > > it's efforts. I believe it may not be too great a leap to say that
> > > maintaining a free quality tool, such as AOO, for the desktop OS world
> > does
> > > give social benefit.
> > >
> >
> > I don't (totally or even really) disagree. And I like that you don't cave
> > to the obligatory use of "cloud." But I also think it's not really needed
> > to focus or emphasize the desktop element. Most large-scale users
> (public,
> > private enterprises, offices, whatehaveyous) will opt for the desktop
> > compleat suite because one or two or more of the modules are needed by
> > their users and a mobile alternative wouldn't work very well, at least
> not
> > if what you did for a living was working on big spreadsheets.
> >
> > But if you are a student, the idea of "desktop" might just confuse: is a
> > laptop a desktop? And does this mean that ODF files (whatever they are)
> can
> > only be edited (created, edited) on a "desktop"?
> >
> > Put another way, if you want to emphasize the robust and completeness of
> > the suite, and also its expandability, via extensions, great!
> >
> > And then also showing how mobile apps can tie into this extant network of
> > users only adds icing to the cake…. no?
> >
> >
> > > //drew
> >
> > Cheers,
> > louis
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> rollApp charges now? How sad.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No they don't, as it's beta. But I'd expect them to eventually do.
> > >> How else would they fund it?. Banners?
> > >>
> > >> The whole SAAS move is about charging a monthly or yearly subscription
> > for
> > >> things that before were free when installed into your PC. Look at
> GMail,
> > >> they don't charge you for the service, but they charge you for extra
> > cloud
> > >> storage.
> > >>
> > >> FC
> > >> --
> > >> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
> > revolutionary
> > >> act
> > >> - George Orwell
> > >>
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: Open office
Posted by Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com>.
Howdy Louis,
Yes, I agree the term desktop might be confusing for some - however, the
term is not the same as my meaning.
Seems to me the current thinking within software development organizations
is to view all systems on a connectivity continuum, with even embedded
system designers viewing connectivity as a de facto requirement.
This is pushing much, most more likely I believe, of the commercial work
and IMO many FOSS projects towards pure SAAS offerings. This is not only
manifest in the applications/tools developed but also in the secondary
materials produced. (on-line vs delivered help files, for example)
It also seems, to me, natural that this evolution towards ubiquitous
connectivity continues is both driving and being shaped by the shift in
type of computing devices entering circulation.
How all that IMO applies to the AOO project is this, as I was looking over
some of the earlier marketing material from the OO.o project with an eye to
re-drafting it for the current AOO project it appears to me that some of
the value proposition arguments put forward are less strong today.
I was then looking to find additional ideas, attributes, which could be
used to base new value propositions on and/or as differentiating points.
It seemed to me that given the current activities in the development world
the fact that AOO is/was designed from the ground up to work fully, with
all features, in an environment not requiring connectivity to public
communications networks might be such an attribute, at this time.
Certainly it is not a core point, but I do believe there is real value in
this attribute to groups of prospective users and would be worth at least
some attention as materials for the project are generated.
Thanks - and that was rather a lengthy reply...see what happens when one
does this off-line, sighting there with a mice warm, fresh, cup of coffee.
//drew
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On 2013-10-14, at 14:08 , Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Kind of a sideways note to this discussion.
> >
> > I rather think that this push to SAAS in the commercial world and the
> > reverse here, AOO not being SAAS but old fashioned desktop, is something
> > that should be emphasized in regards to this project and the product of
> > it's efforts. I believe it may not be too great a leap to say that
> > maintaining a free quality tool, such as AOO, for the desktop OS world
> does
> > give social benefit.
> >
>
> I don't (totally or even really) disagree. And I like that you don't cave
> to the obligatory use of "cloud." But I also think it's not really needed
> to focus or emphasize the desktop element. Most large-scale users (public,
> private enterprises, offices, whatehaveyous) will opt for the desktop
> compleat suite because one or two or more of the modules are needed by
> their users and a mobile alternative wouldn't work very well, at least not
> if what you did for a living was working on big spreadsheets.
>
> But if you are a student, the idea of "desktop" might just confuse: is a
> laptop a desktop? And does this mean that ODF files (whatever they are) can
> only be edited (created, edited) on a "desktop"?
>
> Put another way, if you want to emphasize the robust and completeness of
> the suite, and also its expandability, via extensions, great!
>
> And then also showing how mobile apps can tie into this extant network of
> users only adds icing to the cake…. no?
>
>
> > //drew
>
> Cheers,
> louis
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> rollApp charges now? How sad.
> >>
> >>
> >> No they don't, as it's beta. But I'd expect them to eventually do.
> >> How else would they fund it?. Banners?
> >>
> >> The whole SAAS move is about charging a monthly or yearly subscription
> for
> >> things that before were free when installed into your PC. Look at GMail,
> >> they don't charge you for the service, but they charge you for extra
> cloud
> >> storage.
> >>
> >> FC
> >> --
> >> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
> revolutionary
> >> act
> >> - George Orwell
> >>
>
>
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Re: Open office
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
On 2013-10-14, at 14:08 , Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kind of a sideways note to this discussion.
>
> I rather think that this push to SAAS in the commercial world and the
> reverse here, AOO not being SAAS but old fashioned desktop, is something
> that should be emphasized in regards to this project and the product of
> it's efforts. I believe it may not be too great a leap to say that
> maintaining a free quality tool, such as AOO, for the desktop OS world does
> give social benefit.
>
I don't (totally or even really) disagree. And I like that you don't cave to the obligatory use of "cloud." But I also think it's not really needed to focus or emphasize the desktop element. Most large-scale users (public, private enterprises, offices, whatehaveyous) will opt for the desktop compleat suite because one or two or more of the modules are needed by their users and a mobile alternative wouldn't work very well, at least not if what you did for a living was working on big spreadsheets.
But if you are a student, the idea of "desktop" might just confuse: is a laptop a desktop? And does this mean that ODF files (whatever they are) can only be edited (created, edited) on a "desktop"?
Put another way, if you want to emphasize the robust and completeness of the suite, and also its expandability, via extensions, great!
And then also showing how mobile apps can tie into this extant network of users only adds icing to the cake…. no?
> //drew
Cheers,
louis
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> rollApp charges now? How sad.
>>
>>
>> No they don't, as it's beta. But I'd expect them to eventually do.
>> How else would they fund it?. Banners?
>>
>> The whole SAAS move is about charging a monthly or yearly subscription for
>> things that before were free when installed into your PC. Look at GMail,
>> they don't charge you for the service, but they charge you for extra cloud
>> storage.
>>
>> FC
>> --
>> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
>> act
>> - George Orwell
>>
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Re: Open office
Posted by Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com>.
Kind of a sideways note to this discussion.
I rather think that this push to SAAS in the commercial world and the
reverse here, AOO not being SAAS but old fashioned desktop, is something
that should be emphasized in regards to this project and the product of
it's efforts. I believe it may not be too great a leap to say that
maintaining a free quality tool, such as AOO, for the desktop OS world does
give social benefit.
//drew
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > rollApp charges now? How sad.
>
>
> No they don't, as it's beta. But I'd expect them to eventually do.
> How else would they fund it?. Banners?
>
> The whole SAAS move is about charging a monthly or yearly subscription for
> things that before were free when installed into your PC. Look at GMail,
> they don't charge you for the service, but they charge you for extra cloud
> storage.
>
> FC
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
> act
> - George Orwell
>
Re: Open office
Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> rollApp charges now? How sad.
No they don't, as it's beta. But I'd expect them to eventually do.
How else would they fund it?. Banners?
The whole SAAS move is about charging a monthly or yearly subscription for
things that before were free when installed into your PC. Look at GMail,
they don't charge you for the service, but they charge you for extra cloud
storage.
FC
--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
- George Orwell
Re: Open office
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
On 2013-10-13, at 12:36 , Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Alan <ti...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any plans to make soft wear available for I Pad?
>>
>
> What is "Soft wear", Alan?. Sounds like garmends that are soft to the touch.
> Oh, you must mean "software".
>
>
>> Alan T.
>>
>
> See this offering to run OpenOffice on iPad. Be warned that it's a SERVICE
> that you must pay for.
>
> https://www.rollapp.com/openoffice
>
> Regards,
> FC
>
rollApp charges now? How sad. But I'm working with a developer (at least one) building a native iPad app that would edit ODF files. LIkely as not it will be closed source, not open, unless there is sufficient contribution from an interested community.
Louis
>
>
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
> act
> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
> Revolucionario
> - George Orwell
Perhaps a modulo of Dick's: reality is what is left when you stop believing in anything else.
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Re: Open office
Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> See this offering to run OpenOffice on iPad. Be warned that it's a SERVICE
> that you must pay for.
I forgot to say that it's currently in beta, and that you can sign up (for
now) free of charge.
FC
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During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
Revolucionario
- George Orwell
Re: Open office
Posted by Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de>.
Hi Fernando,
while you're laughing about someone else's typos you made one yourself.
It's garment with a t, not garmend... :P
Max
Am 13.10.2013 18:36, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Alan <ti...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any plans to make soft wear available for I Pad?
>>
> What is "Soft wear", Alan?. Sounds like garmends that are soft to the touch.
> Oh, you must mean "software".
>
>
>> Alan T.
>>
> See this offering to run OpenOffice on iPad. Be warned that it's a SERVICE
> that you must pay for.
>
> https://www.rollapp.com/openoffice
>
> Regards,
> FC
>
>
>
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Re: Open office
Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Alan <ti...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Are there any plans to make soft wear available for I Pad?
>
What is "Soft wear", Alan?. Sounds like garmends that are soft to the touch.
Oh, you must mean "software".
> Alan T.
>
See this offering to run OpenOffice on iPad. Be warned that it's a SERVICE
that you must pay for.
https://www.rollapp.com/openoffice
Regards,
FC
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During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
Revolucionario
- George Orwell
Re: Open office
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
On 2013-10-12, at 17:26 , Alan <ti...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Are there any plans to make soft wear available for I Pad?
> Alan T.
>
> Sent from my iPad
There is actually work on this but it's being done outside the Apache perimeter. That's not because the developer(s) in question are reluctant to join Apache. It's more because the work that is being done—at least that which I know about—uses a different code base than Apache OpenOffice. The point, that is, is not to cram OpenOffice into the quite differently organized iPad iOS but rather to create a sufficiently good editor for ODF or .odt files. This would supply users preferring the tablet editing tools. And we are talking here about a native client, which means work could be done offline or online and without any latency effect, as one sometimes finds with nonnative clients.
best
Louis
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Re: Open office
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
Not at the moment.
On 10/12/13, Alan <ti...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Are there any plans to make soft wear available for I Pad?
> Alan T.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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