Need summary of intent and contend to each MyFaces JSF Commons subproject was (Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project)

[Paul Spencer <pa...@mikon.com>]

Please summarize the intent and proposed contents of each subproject on 
a wiki page.  A common refactoring page already exists [1].  The 
resulting pages should be moved in each project's site documentation


Paul Spencer

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/MyFaces_Commons_Refactoring

Simon Lessard wrote:
> I can live with that as well, the name speaks for itself, but it's soooo
> loooooong.
> 
> ~ Simon
> 
> On 10/31/07, Ron Smits <ro...@ronsmits.org> wrote:
>> I can live with that
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On 10/31/07, Manfred Geiler <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Since there where some discussions about what should be in this new
>>> project and what not:
>>> Renderkit independent components yes/no? Only static utils, convenient
>>> base classes?
>>>
>>> I have a suggestion that would solve this (and the naming as well):
>>>
>>> Let's start a new MLP* called "MyFaces JSF Commons"
>>> which is itself an "umbrella" project for two artifacts** called
>>> "MyFaces JSF Commons Utils" and "MyFaces JSF Commons Components"
>>>
>>> For the artifact names I propose:
>>> "myfaces-jsfcommons-utils" and "myfaces-jsfcommons-components"
>>>
>>> The myfaces-jsfcommons-components artifact would have a compile
>>> dependency to myfaces-jsfcommons-utils.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> --Manfred
>>>
>>>
>>> * Myfaces Level Project ;-)
>>> ** We should not use the Apache Commons terminology and call those
>>> artifacts or sub projects "Components" for obvious reasons  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/07, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> True!
>>>>
>>>> ...and also the name "common" is very common... :-)
>>>> And therefore not reserved for Apache Commons ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -M
>>>>
>>>> On 10/31/07, Volker Weber < v.weber@inexso.de > wrote:
>>>>> It is  a apache commons like project, just not located in
>>>> commons.apache.org.
>>>>> If it is named myfaces-jsf-commons it should clear enough this is a
>>>>> myfaces project.
>>>>>
>>>>> And imho it should contain tools, components, ... for jsf users like
>>>>> apache-commons-beanutils contains java-collection stuff for java
>>>>> users.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>     Volker
>>>>>
>>>>> 2007/10/30, Ron Smits <ro...@ronsmits.org>:
>>>>>> Grins, I so do not want to start a 'poco sensitive' discussion.
>>>> But I agree
>>>>>> with several other writers here, that commons sounds too much like
>>>> the
>>>>>> apache commons project
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 10/30/07, Manfred Geiler < manfred.geiler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh no! Not that discussion again...  :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron, you might not be aware of former discussions on this list -
>>>> not
>>>>>>> your fault of course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, there are many ASF projects which have names related to
>>>> Native
>>>>>>> Americans, BUT there are also many people concerned that those
>>>> names
>>>>>>> could be offensive to Native Americans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And MyFaces is - of course - not the only ASF project where such
>>>>>>> discussions took place: see [1] to get an idea about such
>>>> discussions
>>>>>>> in the Geronimo community.
>>>>>>> BTW, did you know they once had "Tomahawk" in their list of
>>>> suggest
>>>>>>> alternatives?  ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, my personal opinion is
>>>>>>> +/-0 for names related to Native Americans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wanted to sensitize.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Manfred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSBOX/why-apache-geronimo.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/30/07, Ron Smits < ron@ronsmits.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> How about Tsalagi? that is the name of the cherokee language
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/30/07, Mario Ivankovits < mario@ops.co.at> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>> How about a new "ASF style" name instead of basic, commons
>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> something else that could be more easily misconstrued?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could you give an "ASF style" name for example?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Mario
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> I reject your reality and substitute my own
>>>>>>>>    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting,
>>>>>>> Development and Courses in English and
>>>>>>> German
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I reject your reality and substitute my own
>>>>>>    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>
>>>> further stuff:
>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.irian.at
>>> Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting,
>>> Development and Courses in English and
>>> German
>>>
>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I reject your reality and substitute my own
>>    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
>>
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