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Posted to log4cxx-user@logging.apache.org by drkm <da...@yahoo.fr> on 2004/08/03 14:37:58 UTC

Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

  Hi

  Any reaction ?

  I think if there is no objection, I'll subscribe the list at Gmane in
a few days.

--drkm


 --- drkm a écrit : 

  Hi

  I read this list from a few time.  But I think emails are less
adapted than Usenet to discuss.  Do you know Gmane.org ?  It acts like
a gateway between ML and Usenet.  So after subscribing, we can read and
post from/to the news server, transparently.

  I think this is entirely free.  A lot of free software-related ML are
mirrored there.  Like log4j and log4net.  Can you consider subscribe
the list ?  There is a subscribing form there :

    <URL:http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>

and infos about other log4* ML at Gmane there :

    <URL:http://gmane.org/find.php?list=log4>

(ahem, please don't make the user list read-only, as the log4net user
list; why they made that ?).

  If you want, I can do it, but I didn't want to subscribe the list
without asking you before.

  Regards,

--drkm, en recherche d'un stage :
http://www.fgeorges.org/ipl/stage.html





















	

	
		
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Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

Posted by Michaël CATANZARITI <mc...@apache.org>.
Hi,

In the Apache Foundation, every project as Project Management Committee. Concerning Apache Logging, we have only once PMC for the four sister project (log4j, log4net, log4php, and log4cxx).
There is a mailing list of the logging PMC : pmc@logging.apache.org.

For further details, see:
http://logging.apache.org/site/bylaws.html#Project%20Management%20Committee

Regards,

Christophe de VIENNE wrote:
> Michael CATANZARITI wrote:
> 
>> I would like the logging PMC to give an opinion, first
>>  
>>
> 
> heu... PCM ?
> 
> Thx
> 
> Christophe
> 
> 

-- 
Michaël CATANZARITI
log4cxx project manager

	log4cxx user mailing list:
	mailto:log4cxx-user-subscribe@logging.apache.org

	log4cxx developer mailing list:
	mailto:log4cxx-dev-subscribe@logging.apache.org

Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

Posted by Christophe de VIENNE <cd...@alphacent.com>.
Michael CATANZARITI wrote:

>I would like the logging PMC to give an opinion, first
>  
>

heu... PCM ?

Thx

Christophe

Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

Posted by Michael CATANZARITI <mc...@free.fr>.
Yes !

So I think "drkm" can subscribe the list at Gmane.

regards,

Michaël

Selon Ceki Gülcü <ce...@qos.ch>:

>
> Anyone can subscribe to an open mailing list. Log4*-user and dev lists are
> open. As such, anyone can subscribe freely.
>
> To post a message, many (but not all) Apache lists require the sender to be
> a subscriber. It is left to the sub-project to choose the access control
> model as it sees fit. (In other words, I don't think the model should be
> imposed by the PMC.)
>
> Does this help?
>
> At 05:52 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I would like the logging PMC to give an opinion, first
> >
> >Michaël
> >
> >Selon Christophe de VIENNE <cd...@alphacent.com>:
> >
> > > drkm wrote:
> > >
> > > >  I think this is entirely free.  A lot of free software-related ML are
> > > >mirrored there.  Like log4j and log4net.  Can you consider subscribe
> > > >the list ?  There is a subscribing form there :
> > > >
> > > >    <URL:http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>
> > > >
> > > >and infos about other log4* ML at Gmane there :
> > > >
> > > >    <URL:http://gmane.org/find.php?list=log4>
> > > >
> > > >(ahem, please don't make the user list read-only, as the log4net user
> > > >list; why they made that ?).
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Probably to avoid non-subscribed people to post. If one want to post on
> > > the newsgroup, does he need to subscribe to the mailing-list first ?
> > >
> > > Anyway before doing it I think you should wait for Mickaël opinion.
> > >
> > > A+
> > >
> > > Christophe
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Ceki Gülcü
>
>       For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual"
>       ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp
>
>
>

Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

Posted by Ceki Gülcü <ce...@qos.ch>.
Anyone can subscribe to an open mailing list. Log4*-user and dev lists are 
open. As such, anyone can subscribe freely.

To post a message, many (but not all) Apache lists require the sender to be 
a subscriber. It is left to the sub-project to choose the access control 
model as it sees fit. (In other words, I don't think the model should be 
imposed by the PMC.)

Does this help?

At 05:52 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I would like the logging PMC to give an opinion, first
>
>Michaël
>
>Selon Christophe de VIENNE <cd...@alphacent.com>:
>
> > drkm wrote:
> >
> > >  I think this is entirely free.  A lot of free software-related ML are
> > >mirrored there.  Like log4j and log4net.  Can you consider subscribe
> > >the list ?  There is a subscribing form there :
> > >
> > >    <URL:http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>
> > >
> > >and infos about other log4* ML at Gmane there :
> > >
> > >    <URL:http://gmane.org/find.php?list=log4>
> > >
> > >(ahem, please don't make the user list read-only, as the log4net user
> > >list; why they made that ?).
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Probably to avoid non-subscribed people to post. If one want to post on
> > the newsgroup, does he need to subscribe to the mailing-list first ?
> >
> > Anyway before doing it I think you should wait for Mickaël opinion.
> >
> > A+
> >
> > Christophe
> >
> >

-- 
Ceki Gülcü

      For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual"
      ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp

Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

Posted by Michael CATANZARITI <mc...@free.fr>.
Hello,

I would like the logging PMC to give an opinion, first

Michaël

Selon Christophe de VIENNE <cd...@alphacent.com>:

> drkm wrote:
>
> >  I think this is entirely free.  A lot of free software-related ML are
> >mirrored there.  Like log4j and log4net.  Can you consider subscribe
> >the list ?  There is a subscribing form there :
> >
> >    <URL:http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>
> >
> >and infos about other log4* ML at Gmane there :
> >
> >    <URL:http://gmane.org/find.php?list=log4>
> >
> >(ahem, please don't make the user list read-only, as the log4net user
> >list; why they made that ?).
> >
> >
>
> Probably to avoid non-subscribed people to post. If one want to post on
> the newsgroup, does he need to subscribe to the mailing-list first ?
>
> Anyway before doing it I think you should wait for Mickaël opinion.
>
> A+
>
> Christophe
>
>

Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

Posted by drkm <da...@yahoo.fr>.
 --- Christophe de VIENNE <cd...@alphacent.com> a écrit : 

> drkm wrote:

  [...]

> >(ahem, please don't make the user list read-only, as the log4net
> user
> >list; why they made that ?).

> Probably to avoid non-subscribed people to post. If one want to post
> on 
> the newsgroup, does he need to subscribe to the mailing-list first ?

  When you try to post the fist time to a group you never post before,
you receive a confirmation mail request.  From all the ML I subscribed,
I never receive a spam message from Gmane (other than the message
sended by other ways to the ML).

> Anyway before doing it I think you should wait for Mickaël opinion.

  Off course.

--drkm



















	

	
		
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Re: Subscribing the list at Gmane.org (Usenet gateway) ?

Posted by Christophe de VIENNE <cd...@alphacent.com>.
drkm wrote:

>  I think this is entirely free.  A lot of free software-related ML are
>mirrored there.  Like log4j and log4net.  Can you consider subscribe
>the list ?  There is a subscribing form there :
>
>    <URL:http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>
>
>and infos about other log4* ML at Gmane there :
>
>    <URL:http://gmane.org/find.php?list=log4>
>
>(ahem, please don't make the user list read-only, as the log4net user
>list; why they made that ?).
>  
>

Probably to avoid non-subscribed people to post. If one want to post on 
the newsgroup, does he need to subscribe to the mailing-list first ?

Anyway before doing it I think you should wait for Mickaël opinion.

A+

Christophe