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Posted to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Adrian Cumiskey <ad...@gmail.com> on 2007/03/07 10:42:38 UTC
fop.bat needs patching
This is a quicky.. Our fop.bat is currently broken, someone needs to
update fop.bat to reflect the recently added new
xmlgraphics-commons-1.2svn.jar on the trunk. I have added this patch to
the patch list (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41778).
--- fop.bat Wed Mar 07 09:32:31 2007
+++ fop.bat.orig Wed Mar 07 09:31:50 2007
@@ -60,7 +60,7 @@
set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\xalan-2.7.0.jar
set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\serializer-2.7.0.jar
set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\batik-all-1.6.jar
-set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\xmlgraphics-commons-1.1.jar
+set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\xmlgraphics-commons-1.2svn.jar
set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\avalon-framework-4.2.0.jar
set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\commons-io-1.1.jar
set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\commons-logging-1.0.4.jar
Re: [2007/02/11] fop.bat needs patching
Posted by ti...@freemans.com.au.
JScript is one of the Windows Scripting Host languages.
It has been supported since Win9x, along with vbscript.
Nicol Bolas <jm...@comcast.net>
09/03/2007 01:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [2007/02/11] fop.bat needs patching
I do not believe that most Windows machines came with a JavaScript
interpreter. As such, expecting a user to have to install one in order to
use FOP is an unnecessarily high bar.
However, if the 'cmd' language and the 'bat' languages are fairly
identical,
feel free to change them. As long as the user doesn't have to install a
program just to use FOP, I don't see a problem.
Simon Pepping @ Home wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 04:32:09PM -0800, Nicol Bolas wrote:
>> Well, consider this.
>>
>> I know what a .bat file is; I know how to use one. I don't know what a
>> "cmd"
>> or a "js" startup script is. If I need to modify the .bat file, I can
>> read
>> it, understand it, and use it without looking something up online. A
lot
>> of
>> Windows users who would be interested in FOP are in pretty much the
same
>> boat.
>>
>> So what would be gained from using a relatively obscure script format
>> rather
>> than a .bat file?
>
> In the past three months we have had two incidents where the startup
> script fop.bat lagged behind the update of a jar file. One such
> incident forced me to cancel 100MB of candidate release files, fix
> that batch file and create and upload 100MB of new candidate release
> files.
>
> You would not gain anything as long as we suffer the pain of
> maintaining the startup script in the age-old, powerless batch
> language designed for x86 computers in 1990. We would gain the comfort
> of a more powerful language, which is able to find out itself if a jar
> file has changed version number. In addition, the javascript file
> offers customizability to the users.
>
> Until someone creates a comfortable GUI for FOP, you better learn what
> cmd and js files are. Or at least, you learn that you can execute them
> by double clicking on them, just as the batch file.
>
> B.T.W. the cmd and bat file languages are the same language on recent
> Windows systems. It is just that the batch file does not use more
> powerful features of that language, in order to enable you to run the
> same on a Windows 98 computer. My Windows 98 system broke down quite a
> while ago, but there seem to be people who are kinder to it, and have
> kept it alive until now.
>
> Simon, who prefers to spend his time and efforts on forward looking
> features
>
> --
> Simon Pepping
> home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu
>
>
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Re: [2007/02/11] fop.bat needs patching
Posted by Nicol Bolas <jm...@comcast.net>.
I do not believe that most Windows machines came with a JavaScript
interpreter. As such, expecting a user to have to install one in order to
use FOP is an unnecessarily high bar.
However, if the 'cmd' language and the 'bat' languages are fairly identical,
feel free to change them. As long as the user doesn't have to install a
program just to use FOP, I don't see a problem.
Simon Pepping @ Home wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 04:32:09PM -0800, Nicol Bolas wrote:
>> Well, consider this.
>>
>> I know what a .bat file is; I know how to use one. I don't know what a
>> "cmd"
>> or a "js" startup script is. If I need to modify the .bat file, I can
>> read
>> it, understand it, and use it without looking something up online. A lot
>> of
>> Windows users who would be interested in FOP are in pretty much the same
>> boat.
>>
>> So what would be gained from using a relatively obscure script format
>> rather
>> than a .bat file?
>
> In the past three months we have had two incidents where the startup
> script fop.bat lagged behind the update of a jar file. One such
> incident forced me to cancel 100MB of candidate release files, fix
> that batch file and create and upload 100MB of new candidate release
> files.
>
> You would not gain anything as long as we suffer the pain of
> maintaining the startup script in the age-old, powerless batch
> language designed for x86 computers in 1990. We would gain the comfort
> of a more powerful language, which is able to find out itself if a jar
> file has changed version number. In addition, the javascript file
> offers customizability to the users.
>
> Until someone creates a comfortable GUI for FOP, you better learn what
> cmd and js files are. Or at least, you learn that you can execute them
> by double clicking on them, just as the batch file.
>
> B.T.W. the cmd and bat file languages are the same language on recent
> Windows systems. It is just that the batch file does not use more
> powerful features of that language, in order to enable you to run the
> same on a Windows 98 computer. My Windows 98 system broke down quite a
> while ago, but there seem to be people who are kinder to it, and have
> kept it alive until now.
>
> Simon, who prefers to spend his time and efforts on forward looking
> features
>
> --
> Simon Pepping
> home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu
>
>
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Re: fop.bat needs patching
Posted by Simon Pepping <sp...@leverkruid.eu>.
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 04:32:09PM -0800, Nicol Bolas wrote:
> Well, consider this.
>
> I know what a .bat file is; I know how to use one. I don't know what a "cmd"
> or a "js" startup script is. If I need to modify the .bat file, I can read
> it, understand it, and use it without looking something up online. A lot of
> Windows users who would be interested in FOP are in pretty much the same
> boat.
>
> So what would be gained from using a relatively obscure script format rather
> than a .bat file?
In the past three months we have had two incidents where the startup
script fop.bat lagged behind the update of a jar file. One such
incident forced me to cancel 100MB of candidate release files, fix
that batch file and create and upload 100MB of new candidate release
files.
You would not gain anything as long as we suffer the pain of
maintaining the startup script in the age-old, powerless batch
language designed for x86 computers in 1990. We would gain the comfort
of a more powerful language, which is able to find out itself if a jar
file has changed version number. In addition, the javascript file
offers customizability to the users.
Until someone creates a comfortable GUI for FOP, you better learn what
cmd and js files are. Or at least, you learn that you can execute them
by double clicking on them, just as the batch file.
B.T.W. the cmd and bat file languages are the same language on recent
Windows systems. It is just that the batch file does not use more
powerful features of that language, in order to enable you to run the
same on a Windows 98 computer. My Windows 98 system broke down quite a
while ago, but there seem to be people who are kinder to it, and have
kept it alive until now.
Simon, who prefers to spend his time and efforts on forward looking
features
--
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu
Re: [2007/02/11] fop.bat needs patching
Posted by Nicol Bolas <jm...@comcast.net>.
Andreas L Delmelle wrote:
>
> On Mar 7, 2007, at 22:49, Simon Pepping wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 03:58:18PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
>>> Grr, I actually changed it but forgot to commit. Thanks for
>>> handling it.
>>>
>>> On 07.03.2007 10:42:38 Adrian Cumiskey wrote:
>>>> This is a quicky.. Our fop.bat is currently broken, someone
>>>> needs to
>>>> update fop.bat to reflect the recently added new
>>>> xmlgraphics-commons-1.2svn.jar on the trunk. I have added this
>>>> patch to
>>>> the patch list (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?
>>>> id=41778).
>>
>> Keep it broken, so people are going to use the cmd or js startup
>> scripts.
>
> :-)
>
> Seriously:
> Is it possible/feasible/desirable to change the .bat file to use one
> of the cmd or js startup scripts maybe? Or promote their usage in
> other ways? Has their usage info already been added to the docs?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
Well, consider this.
I know what a .bat file is; I know how to use one. I don't know what a "cmd"
or a "js" startup script is. If I need to modify the .bat file, I can read
it, understand it, and use it without looking something up online. A lot of
Windows users who would be interested in FOP are in pretty much the same
boat.
So what would be gained from using a relatively obscure script format rather
than a .bat file?
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Re: fop.bat needs patching
Posted by Andreas L Delmelle <a_...@pandora.be>.
On Mar 7, 2007, at 22:49, Simon Pepping wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 03:58:18PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
>> Grr, I actually changed it but forgot to commit. Thanks for
>> handling it.
>>
>> On 07.03.2007 10:42:38 Adrian Cumiskey wrote:
>>> This is a quicky.. Our fop.bat is currently broken, someone
>>> needs to
>>> update fop.bat to reflect the recently added new
>>> xmlgraphics-commons-1.2svn.jar on the trunk. I have added this
>>> patch to
>>> the patch list (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?
>>> id=41778).
>
> Keep it broken, so people are going to use the cmd or js startup
> scripts.
:-)
Seriously:
Is it possible/feasible/desirable to change the .bat file to use one
of the cmd or js startup scripts maybe? Or promote their usage in
other ways? Has their usage info already been added to the docs?
Cheers,
Andreas
Re: fop.bat needs patching
Posted by Simon Pepping <sp...@leverkruid.eu>.
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 03:58:18PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> Grr, I actually changed it but forgot to commit. Thanks for handling it.
>
> On 07.03.2007 10:42:38 Adrian Cumiskey wrote:
> > This is a quicky.. Our fop.bat is currently broken, someone needs to
> > update fop.bat to reflect the recently added new
> > xmlgraphics-commons-1.2svn.jar on the trunk. I have added this patch to
> > the patch list (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41778).
Keep it broken, so people are going to use the cmd or js startup scripts.
Simon
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home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu
Re: fop.bat needs patching
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
Grr, I actually changed it but forgot to commit. Thanks for handling it.
On 07.03.2007 10:42:38 Adrian Cumiskey wrote:
> This is a quicky.. Our fop.bat is currently broken, someone needs to
> update fop.bat to reflect the recently added new
> xmlgraphics-commons-1.2svn.jar on the trunk. I have added this patch to
> the patch list (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41778).
>
> --- fop.bat Wed Mar 07 09:32:31 2007
> +++ fop.bat.orig Wed Mar 07 09:31:50 2007
> @@ -60,7 +60,7 @@
> set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\xalan-2.7.0.jar
> set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\serializer-2.7.0.jar
> set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\batik-all-1.6.jar
> -set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\xmlgraphics-commons-1.1.jar
> +set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\xmlgraphics-commons-1.2svn.jar
> set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\avalon-framework-4.2.0.jar
> set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\commons-io-1.1.jar
> set LOCALCLASSPATH=%LOCALCLASSPATH%;%LIBDIR%\commons-logging-1.0.4.jar
Jeremias Maerki