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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Matteo Sisti Sette <ma...@gmail.com> on 2014/10/02 14:23:21 UTC

This list lacks unsubscrbe instructions

Usually, at the end of every email received from a mailing list, there 
is a link to unsubscribe or instructions to do so (such as "send a 
message to whatever address with whatever subject to unsubscribe from 
this list").

I don't see anything of this in this mailing list and that's 
disappointing. I had never seen a mailing list lacking this before.

I'm sure I'll quickly figure out how to unsubscribe, but I suggest the 
list managers to fix this.

On 02/10/14 03:17, Andrew Grieve wrote:
> There's been a couple bugs come in for Android where our update script has
> failed to bring a project in line with what would be created for a new
> project: CB-7683, CB-6772
>
> We could put more effort into writing transformations into the update
> script, but I think it might be more pragmatic to just tell people to
> "platform rm android && platform add android".
>
> Thoughts?
>

Re: This list lacks unsubscrbe instructions

Posted by Shazron Abdullah <sh...@gmail.com>.

Not sure how to fix this for you, it’s best to bug the experts at INFRA by filing an issue I suppose.
I haven’t had any problems yet, so far.


> On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com> wrote:
> 
> Shazron Abdullah wrote:
> 
>>> The lists do not contain footers by default. I’ve requested them:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8425
> 
>> The INFRA issue is resolved! Much rejoicing.
> 
> I object.
> 
> I believe they are poorly configured and are making a total hash of my
> messages.
> 
> Take:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cordova-dev/201410.mbox/%3CD062E75
> 2.4DBA4%25jsoref%40blackberry.com%3E
> 
> 
> 
> I sent that message, it looked like this in my sent folder:
> ——
> User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616
> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:44:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: Review: Cordova-CLI 4.0.0 Release blog post
> From: Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com>
> To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> Message-ID: <D0...@blackberry.com>
> Thread-Topic: Review: Cordova-CLI 4.0.0 Release blog post
> References: 
> <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
> In-Reply-To: 
> <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-type: text/plain;
> 	charset="US-ASCII"
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
> 
> Steven Gill wrote:
> 
>> Please review and send pull requests!
>> 
>> https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2014-10-13-cordov
>> a-4.md
> 
> Working on it...
> ——
> 
> 
> When I open the same message in Outlook, I see:
> ——
> 
> Steven Gill wrote:
> 
>> Please review and send pull requests!
>> 
>> https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2014-10-13-cordov
>> a-4.md
> 
> Working on it...
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> When I feed 
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> 2E752.4DBA4%25jsoref%40blackberry.com%3E
> To http://www.motobit.com/util/base64-decoder-encoder.asp
> I see:
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> ——
> 
> 
> 
> When I delete the first character ("F" in "From dev-return"…) from what I
> send to that site, I see:
> ——
> 
>> Please review and send pull requests!
>> 
>> https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2014-10-13-cordov
>> a-4.md
> 
> Working on it...
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> This is causing me to doubt my mail client's interoperability and file
> bugs on random pieces of software internally.
> 
> I lost a number of hours investigating, as have people on other teams here.
> 
> I'm not yet absolutely certain who is to blame, but for the time being,
> I'm going to tentatively imagine that the fault lies with qmail on
> athena.apache.org. The other candidates include
> Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616, XCT102CNC.rim.net … mapi id
> 14.03.0174.001, and ClamAV on apache.org
> 
> Note that mail-archives.apache.org is buggy, it's silently truncating the
> message when it encounters the gibberish at the bottom. So, please either
> feed the raw message yourself to your most trusted base64 decoder/mime
> parser, or use your own viewer instead of trusting the rendering it
> provides.
> 
> 
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Re: This list lacks unsubscrbe instructions

Posted by Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com>.

Shazron Abdullah wrote:

>>The lists do not contain footers by default. I’ve requested them:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8425

>The INFRA issue is resolved! Much rejoicing.

I object.

I believe they are poorly configured and are making a total hash of my
messages.

Take:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cordova-dev/201410.mbox/%3CD062E75
2.4DBA4%25jsoref%40blackberry.com%3E



I sent that message, it looked like this in my sent folder:
——
User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:44:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Review: Cordova-CLI 4.0.0 Release blog post
From: Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com>
To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <de...@cordova.apache.org>
Message-ID: <D0...@blackberry.com>
Thread-Topic: Review: Cordova-CLI 4.0.0 Release blog post
References: 
<CA...@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: 
<CA...@mail.gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain;
	charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

Steven Gill wrote:

>Please review and send pull requests!
>
>https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2014-10-13-cordov
>a-4.md

Working on it...
——


When I open the same message in Outlook, I see:
——

Steven Gill wrote:

>Please review and send pull requests!
>
>https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2014-10-13-cordov
>a-4.md

Working on it...

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When I feed 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cordova-dev/201410.mbox/raw/%3CD06
2E752.4DBA4%25jsoref%40blackberry.com%3E
To http://www.motobit.com/util/base64-decoder-encoder.asp
I see:

——...

ŠëzV¢»¬z¶ 
z{L‰Êè²‡í1§ºÙh¢OõãõãNµë+Š§jØ§‚*uÓ®uëM¹Ô*'µéíO*^µìmþ™ZŠw!j»¶ë_ð*'µéí
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——



When I delete the first character ("F" in "From dev-return"…) from what I
send to that site, I see:
——

>Please review and send pull requests!
>
>https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2014-10-13-cordov
>a-4.md

Working on it...

B‹KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKCB•
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Û[X[™ËK[XZ[ˆ]‹Z[ÛÜ™Ý˜K˜\XÚK›Ü™
——



This is causing me to doubt my mail client's interoperability and file
bugs on random pieces of software internally.

I lost a number of hours investigating, as have people on other teams here.

I'm not yet absolutely certain who is to blame, but for the time being,
I'm going to tentatively imagine that the fault lies with qmail on
athena.apache.org. The other candidates include
Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616, XCT102CNC.rim.net … mapi id
14.03.0174.001, and ClamAV on apache.org

Note that mail-archives.apache.org is buggy, it's silently truncating the
message when it encounters the gibberish at the bottom. So, please either
feed the raw message yourself to your most trusted base64 decoder/mime
parser, or use your own viewer instead of trusting the rendering it
provides.


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Re: This list lacks unsubscrbe instructions

Posted by Shazron Abdullah <sh...@gmail.com>.

The INFRA issue is resolved! Much rejoicing.

> On Oct 2, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Shazron Abdullah <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Matteo,
> The lists do not contain footers by default. I’ve requested them:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8425
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Usually, at the end of every email received from a mailing list, there is a link to unsubscribe or instructions to do so (such as "send a message to whatever address with whatever subject to unsubscribe from this list").
>> 
>> I don't see anything of this in this mailing list and that's disappointing. I had never seen a mailing list lacking this before.
>> 
>> I'm sure I'll quickly figure out how to unsubscribe, but I suggest the list managers to fix this.
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/10/14 03:17, Andrew Grieve wrote:
>>> There's been a couple bugs come in for Android where our update script has
>>> failed to bring a project in line with what would be created for a new
>>> project: CB-7683, CB-6772
>>> 
>>> We could put more effort into writing transformations into the update
>>> script, but I think it might be more pragmatic to just tell people to
>>> "platform rm android && platform add android".
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>> 	
> 


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Re: This list lacks unsubscrbe instructions

Posted by Shazron Abdullah <sh...@gmail.com>.

Thanks Matteo,
The lists do not contain footers by default. I’ve requested them:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8425


> On Oct 2, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Usually, at the end of every email received from a mailing list, there is a link to unsubscribe or instructions to do so (such as "send a message to whatever address with whatever subject to unsubscribe from this list").
> 
> I don't see anything of this in this mailing list and that's disappointing. I had never seen a mailing list lacking this before.
> 
> I'm sure I'll quickly figure out how to unsubscribe, but I suggest the list managers to fix this.
> 
> 
> On 02/10/14 03:17, Andrew Grieve wrote:
>> There's been a couple bugs come in for Android where our update script has
>> failed to bring a project in line with what would be created for a new
>> project: CB-7683, CB-6772
>> 
>> We could put more effort into writing transformations into the update
>> script, but I think it might be more pragmatic to just tell people to
>> "platform rm android && platform add android".
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>

Re: This list lacks unsubscrbe instructions

Posted by Ajai Khattri <aj...@bitblit.net>.

On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 02:23:21PM +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:

> Usually, at the end of every email received from a mailing list, there 
> is a link to unsubscribe or instructions to do so (such as "send a 
> message to whatever address with whatever subject to unsubscribe from 
> this list").
> 
> I don't see anything of this in this mailing list and that's 
> disappointing. I had never seen a mailing list lacking this before.
> 
> I'm sure I'll quickly figure out how to unsubscribe, but I suggest the 
> list managers to fix this.

Actually most mailing lists these days have headers that tell, and which
most mail clients hide from, you:

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