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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> on 2017/06/01 17:09:56 UTC

Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.

Gary

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
> project makes everything painles.
>
> Regards,
> Amey
>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
> the
> > gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
> > Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
> >
> > I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
> > gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
> having
> > only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
> > good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
> > think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
> > computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
> > ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
> >
> >
> > I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
> > add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
> > adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
> >
> > Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
> > [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
> > right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
> plug-ins
> > for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
> > What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
> > comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
> add a
> > comment to
> > https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
> > perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Bruno
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
> > [2]
> > http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
> > [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
> >
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by "Bruno P. Kinoshita" <br...@yahoo.com.br.INVALID>.
I can understand trying to make it easier for people to contribute too, but I still prefer to have a more IDE agnostic set up, with build-only files in the .gitignore file, and a global exclusion list. But I think we didn't reach a consensus here, so guess we will just keep the per project setting, and merge the pull requests as they come in and try to keep things as concise as possible.
Cheers
Bruno

      From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
 To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 3:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?
   
On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.

+1

> Regards,
> Benedikt
>
> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
>
>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>>> project makes everything painles.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Amey
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
>>> the
>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>>>>
>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>>> having
>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
>>>>
>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>>> plug-ins
>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>>> add a
>>>> comment to
>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Bruno
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
>>>>
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 6 June 2017 at 15:49, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It might be useful to document a helpful starter .gitignore_global for
> users. I tend to set those up and forget about them.

+1

That sounds like a good addition to the Wiki

There is:

https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT

That is quite long already, so a new page (linked from it) might be better.

> On 6 June 2017 at 06:50, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Bernd,
>>
>> > Am 05.06.2017 um 18:47 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
>> >
>> > Are we talking about only the Maven profile or also about the Java
>> profile. I find that one overly eager and why does it contain BlueJ IDE
>> (only)?
>>
>> What are you referring to with „Maven profile“ and „Java profile“?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Benedikt
>>
>> >
>> > Gruss
>> > Bernd
>> > --
>> > http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:09:18 PM
>> > To: Commons Developers List
>> > Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related
>> entries?
>> >
>> > On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific
>> entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into
>> your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we
>> should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Benedikt
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
>> >>
>> >>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have
>> clear
>> >>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>> >>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>> >>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>> >>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>> >>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure
>> people
>> >>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>> >>>> project makes everything painles.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Amey
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>> >>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files
>> to
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries
>> for
>> >>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>> >>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>> >>>> having
>> >>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think
>> is a
>> >>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files
>> I
>> >>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a
>> new
>> >>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>> >>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may
>> also
>> >>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull
>> request
>> >>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there
>> too?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning
>> message
>> >>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it
>> be all
>> >>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>> >>>> plug-ins
>> >>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>> >>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2)
>> add a
>> >>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>> >>>> add a
>> >>>>> comment to
>> >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the
>> CONTRIBUTING.md
>> >>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cheers
>> >>>>> Bruno
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>> >>>>> [2]
>> >>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>> >>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>> >>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>> >>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>> >>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
It might be useful to document a helpful starter .gitignore_global for
users. I tend to set those up and forget about them.

On 6 June 2017 at 06:50, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hello Bernd,
>
> > Am 05.06.2017 um 18:47 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
> >
> > Are we talking about only the Maven profile or also about the Java
> profile. I find that one overly eager and why does it contain BlueJ IDE
> (only)?
>
> What are you referring to with „Maven profile“ and „Java profile“?
>
> Cheers,
> Benedikt
>
> >
> > Gruss
> > Bernd
> > --
> > http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> > ________________________________
> > From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:09:18 PM
> > To: Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related
> entries?
> >
> > On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific
> entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into
> your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we
> should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Benedikt
> >>
> >> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
> >>
> >>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have
> clear
> >>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
> >>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
> >>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
> >>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
> >>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure
> people
> >>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
> >>>> project makes everything painles.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Amey
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
> >>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files
> to
> >>>> the
> >>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries
> for
> >>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
> >>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
> >>>> having
> >>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think
> is a
> >>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files
> I
> >>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a
> new
> >>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
> >>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may
> also
> >>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull
> request
> >>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there
> too?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning
> message
> >>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it
> be all
> >>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
> >>>> plug-ins
> >>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
> >>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2)
> add a
> >>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
> >>>> add a
> >>>>> comment to
> >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the
> CONTRIBUTING.md
> >>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Bruno
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
> >>>>> [2]
> >>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
> >>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
> >>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
> >>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
> >>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 6 June 2017 at 22:09, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net> wrote:
> GIBo uses the Github profiles:
> https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/master/Java.gitignore

At least some of those may cause problems for Compress test data ...

> https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/master/Maven.gitignore
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
> --
> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> ________________________________
> From: Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 1:50:14 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?
>
> Hello Bernd,
>
>> Am 05.06.2017 um 18:47 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
>>
>> Are we talking about only the Maven profile or also about the Java profile. I find that one overly eager and why does it contain BlueJ IDE (only)?
>
> What are you referring to with „Maven profile“ and „Java profile“?
>
> Cheers,
> Benedikt
>
>>
>> Gruss
>> Bernd
>> --
>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>> ________________________________
>> From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:09:18 PM
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?
>>
>> On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Benedikt
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
>>>
>>>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
>>>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>>>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>>>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>>>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>>>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
>>>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>>>>> project makes everything painles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Amey
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>>>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
>>>>> the
>>>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
>>>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>>>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>>>>> having
>>>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
>>>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
>>>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
>>>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>>>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
>>>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
>>>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
>>>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
>>>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>>>>> plug-ins
>>>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>>>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
>>>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>>>>> add a
>>>>>> comment to
>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>>>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>>>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>>>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>>>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>>>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
GIBo uses the Github profiles:
https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/master/Java.gitignore
https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/master/Maven.gitignore

Gruss
Bernd
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From: Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 1:50:14 PM
To: Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Hello Bernd,

> Am 05.06.2017 um 18:47 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
>
> Are we talking about only the Maven profile or also about the Java profile. I find that one overly eager and why does it contain BlueJ IDE (only)?

What are you referring to with „Maven profile“ and „Java profile“?

Cheers,
Benedikt

>
> Gruss
> Bernd
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> From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:09:18 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?
>
> On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.
>
> +1
>
>> Regards,
>> Benedikt
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
>>
>>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
>>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
>>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>>>> project makes everything painles.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Amey
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
>>>> the
>>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
>>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>>>> having
>>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
>>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
>>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
>>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
>>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
>>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
>>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
>>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>>>> plug-ins
>>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
>>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>>>> add a
>>>>> comment to
>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
>>>>>
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>.
Hello Bernd,

> Am 05.06.2017 um 18:47 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
> 
> Are we talking about only the Maven profile or also about the Java profile. I find that one overly eager and why does it contain BlueJ IDE (only)?

What are you referring to with „Maven profile“ and „Java profile“?

Cheers,
Benedikt

> 
> Gruss
> Bernd
> --
> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> ________________________________
> From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:09:18 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?
> 
> On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.
> 
> +1
> 
>> Regards,
>> Benedikt
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
>> 
>>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
>>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
>>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>>>> project makes everything painles.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Amey
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
>>>> the
>>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
>>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>>>> having
>>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
>>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
>>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
>>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
>>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
>>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
>>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
>>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>>>> plug-ins
>>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
>>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>>>> add a
>>>>> comment to
>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Bruno
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
>>>>> 
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
Are we talking about only the Maven profile or also about the Java profile. I find that one overly eager and why does it contain BlueJ IDE (only)?

Gruss
Bernd
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________________________________
From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:09:18 PM
To: Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.

+1

> Regards,
> Benedikt
>
> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
>
>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>>> project makes everything painles.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Amey
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
>>> the
>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>>>>
>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>>> having
>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
>>>>
>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>>> plug-ins
>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>>> add a
>>>> comment to
>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Bruno
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
>>>>
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 5 June 2017 at 11:20, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.

+1

> Regards,
> Benedikt
>
> [1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo
>
>> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
>> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
>>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>>> project makes everything painles.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Amey
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
>>> the
>>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
>>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>>>>
>>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>>> having
>>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
>>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
>>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
>>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
>>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
>>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
>>>>
>>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
>>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
>>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>>> plug-ins
>>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
>>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>>> add a
>>>> comment to
>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Bruno
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
>>>>
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Re: [all] Should our gitignore files contain only build-related entries?

Posted by Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>.
Hi,

I usually only use what gibo [1] generates. I don’t put editor specific entries into .gitignore for my personal projects. This stuff should go into your personal gitignore. If developers don’t know about global gitignore we should educate them instead of promoting non-sense project setups.

Regards,
Benedikt

[1] https://github.com/simonwhitaker/gibo

> Am 01.06.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> 
> If we do not have per component .gitignore files, then we better have clear
> instructions front and center on how to set up Git for what we expect.
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Amey Jadiye <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think easier way to have all ignorable extensions and directories in
>> .gitignore and same have to be replicated in global gitignore from all
>> other Commons projects. Commons is always having short fixes and
>> improvements , people tend to fork>work>PR>delete repo on local pc.
>> Instructions should be in UsingGIT and CONTRIBUTING.md but not sure people
>> will follow everything. Ignores already  present in .gitignore of each
>> project makes everything painles.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amey
>> 
>> On Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:03 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
>> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> [collections] recently received a pull request [1] to add VIM files to
>> the
>>> gitignore file. Its currently gitignore contains only a few entries for
>>> Eclipse ([lang] has more entries for Eclipse).
>>> 
>>> I remember asking something similar, and learning about the global
>>> gitignore. But besides that, in the same thread, Benedikt suggested
>> having
>>> only build files ignored in our gitignore files [2], which I think is a
>>> good idea. Our components do not follow any rule for gitignore files I
>>> think. I normally check [lang] when I need to add a .gitignore to a new
>>> computer, but just realized [text] and [lang] gitignore files differ
>>> ([lang] has a .checkstyle file under the Eclipse ignored files).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm okay merging the pull request for [collections], but then we may also
>>> add the remaining entries from [lang] there... except this pull request
>>> adds *.swp which is missing from [lang]. So should we add it there too?
>>> 
>>> Some days ago I used NetBeans to test a generics suppress warning message
>>> [3], but we may have developers using it as main IDE too. Would it be all
>>> right to merge pull requests for it too? Or for files generated by
>> plug-ins
>>> for Eclipse/IntelliJ/etc?
>>> What about 1) leaving only files generated by our build tools, 2) add a
>>> comment to the .gitignore file describing how it works with links, 3)
>> add a
>>> comment to
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingGIT and/or to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>>> perhaps with a sample global gitignore file?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Bruno
>>> 
>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/21
>>> [2]
>>> http://markmail.org/message/yvflc6kxgjalhldx?q=global+
>> gitignore+list:org%2Eapache%2Ecommons%2Edev#query:global%
>> 20gitignore%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev+page:1+mid:
>> ioex63sxnf6culwb+state:results
>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/pull/17
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