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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by Fantri Fitriani <fa...@gmail.com> on 2020/02/10 09:59:07 UTC

Re: Options for using sort of closed-source libraries?

Pada tanggal Sen, 18 Nov 2019 21.49, Christofer Dutz <
christofer.dutz@codecentric.de> menulis:

> Hi all,
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> I am currently having a little email discussion with Oliver Fendt (Senior
> Manager Open Source at Siemens).
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> I met him on the Open-Source workshop in Brussels last week.
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> There I was discussing options with him, how we could start implementing
> MindSphere adapters in Apache projects.
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> I am not a big fan of how Siemens is doing things with their proprietary
> cloud platform MindSphere, but the thing is, that it’s there.
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> In my talks about the benefit of open-source in the production industry is
> generally about openness and the ability to choose the platform and
> technology.
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> There have been occasions where a company already chose MindSphere as a
> platform. Integrating it would be quite simple, but currently legal issues
> are preventing me from building integrations to become part of Apache
> projects and I’m not willing to invest my free time to implement
> proprietary adapters which I would have to release outside of Apache (If
> Siemens would pay me for doing it, that would be something differen).
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> The MindSphere license has been considered Category X (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-376)
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> I tried convincing to take the “restriction of use” out of the license,
> but they are too afraid that competitors would use the API specs to create
> a MindSphere clone.
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> So the other option I thought would be, if Siemens created a library
> themselves that takes care of the communication and provide that without
> any restrictions of use.
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> But then I read, that one rule is that a library used in Apache projects
> must fit the category open-source and have a license that doesn’t have any
> restrictions of use.
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> So it seems this option would not be possible.
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> Are there any ideas how we could in the end create some common ground?
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> Chris
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