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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by pr...@moveupdate.com on 2004/02/18 22:03:32 UTC

Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

when i try installing spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm i get a message 
that the new perl:Mail-SA is needed, and when i try installing 
 perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm~i'm told the files are 
needed by SA2.44

So is there no upgrade path ?

Also, is there a way to get the SA to use my wordlist from bogofilter.

thanks.


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Re: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Matthias Fuhrmann <Ma...@stud.uni-hannover.de>.
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 printer@moveupdate.com wrote:

> when i try installing spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm i get a message
> that the new perl:Mail-SA is needed, and when i try installing
>  perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm~i'm told the files are
> needed by SA2.44
>
> So is there no upgrade path ?

what have you tried ? rpm -i ? wont work i guess, try rpm -Uvh ([v]erbose
and [h]ash).

bis dahin
Matthias

Re: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@evi-inc.com>.
At 06:54 PM 2/18/2004, Alexander Dalloz wrote:
>  To clarify:
> > rpm -Uvh spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm 
> perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm
> >
> > That should take care of the dependency issues you're seeing.
> >
> >
> > Kelson Vibber
>
>What should that do? Both packages are RPMs of SpamAssassin, just with
>different names (different packaged).

No they are definitely not the same package with different names. You MUST 
have both if you're going to install via RPM.

Read the README for the RPMs.

http://www.spamassassin.org/released/RPMs/README.txt


Re: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Alexander Dalloz <al...@uni-bielefeld.de>.
Am Mi, den 18.02.2004 schrieb Kelson Vibber um 23:40:
> At 01:18 PM 2/18/2004, Kelson Vibber wrote:
> >At 01:03 PM 2/18/2004, printer@moveupdate.com wrote:
> >>when i try installing spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm i get a message
> >>that the new perl:Mail-SA is needed, and when i try installing
> >>  perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm~i'm told the files are
> >>needed by SA2.44
> >>
> >>So is there no upgrade path ?
> >
> >Try upgrading both RPMs simultaneously.
> 
> To clarify:
> rpm -Uvh spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm
> 
> That should take care of the dependency issues you're seeing.
> 
> 
> Kelson Vibber

What should that do? Both packages are RPMs of SpamAssassin, just with
different names (different packaged).

Alexander


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Re: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Kelson Vibber <ke...@speed.net>.
At 01:18 PM 2/18/2004, Kelson Vibber wrote:
>At 01:03 PM 2/18/2004, printer@moveupdate.com wrote:
>>when i try installing spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm i get a message
>>that the new perl:Mail-SA is needed, and when i try installing
>>  perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm~i'm told the files are
>>needed by SA2.44
>>
>>So is there no upgrade path ?
>
>Try upgrading both RPMs simultaneously.

To clarify:
rpm -Uvh spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm

That should take care of the dependency issues you're seeing.


Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications <www.speed.net> 



Re: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Kelson Vibber <ke...@speed.net>.
At 01:03 PM 2/18/2004, printer@moveupdate.com wrote:
>when i try installing spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm i get a message
>that the new perl:Mail-SA is needed, and when i try installing
>  perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm~i'm told the files are
>needed by SA2.44
>
>So is there no upgrade path ?

Try upgrading both RPMs simultaneously.


Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications <www.speed.net> 



Re: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Raquel Rice <ra...@thericehouse.net>.
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:03:32 -0800
<pr...@moveupdate.com> wrote:

> when i try installing spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm i get a message
> 
> that the new perl:Mail-SA is needed, and when i try installing 
>  perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm~i'm told the files are 
> needed by SA2.44
> 
> So is there no upgrade path ?

Even after using RH for 5 years, I'm no expert with RPMs.  I started
compiling everything from source a long time ago ... and just
recently installed Debian on one of my servers.  However, I'd say
that you need to be checking with your RPM maintainer.

-- 
Raquel
============================================================
One of the greatest victories you can gain over someone is to beat
him at politeness
  --Josh Billings


Re: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@evi-inc.com>.
Many have answered your upgrade question and to the best of my knowledge, 
Kelson Vibber is correct..

In general when you upgrade multiple inter-dependant RPMs at once, you must 
upgrade them at the same time with a single call to rpm. (ie: rpm -U 
package1.rpm package2.rpm)


At 04:03 PM 2/18/2004, printer@moveupdate.com wrote:
>Also, is there a way to get the SA to use my wordlist from bogofilter.

AFAIK, No... SA's bayes filter is considerably different than the one 
bogofilter uses.

Just for starters, SA tokenizes message headers, but bogofilter does not. 
Bogofilter tokenizes just the text and html sections of the email.

The low-level details cause a large quandary of small differences... 
auto-expire, age tracking, database field formats, etc.

Your best bet is just to start off with a fresh run of sa-learn and build a 
new bayes db.




RE: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

Posted by Todd Schuldt <ts...@ised.org>.
We never used RPM's on Red Hat here for SA, we always used CPAN instead and
it worked really well.

Todd

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Subject: Does SA 2.44 need to be uninstalled in order to use 2.63?

when i try installing spamassassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm i get a message 
that the new perl:Mail-SA is needed, and when i try installing 
 perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63-1.i386.rpm~i'm told the files are 
needed by SA2.44

So is there no upgrade path ?

Also, is there a way to get the SA to use my wordlist from bogofilter.

thanks.


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