[HEADS UP] Work on Apache Camel 3 is beginning

[Andrea Cosentino <an...@yahoo.com.INVALID>]

Hello Camelers,

We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.

The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x) so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3. 

For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2 more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.

Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the camel-core, etc. 

We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.

Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the upcoming milestone releases. 

We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim for a release in Q3 2019.

We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we love contribution and any feedback.

Exciting times ahead! 

Thoughts?

Claus & Andrea

--
Andrea Cosentino 
----------------------------------
Apache Camel PMC Chair
Apache Karaf Committer
Apache Servicemix PMC Member
Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
Twitter: @oscerd2
Github: oscerd

Re: [HEADS UP] Work on Apache Camel 3 is beginning

[Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>]

+1 to start Camel 3. I'd be happy to join the development.
Let's make it happen by discussion the roadmap first.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 9:59 PM Andrea Cosentino
<an...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hello Camelers,
>
> We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.
>
> The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x) so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3.
>
> For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2 more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.
>
> Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the camel-core, etc.
>
> We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.
>
> Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the upcoming milestone releases.
>
> We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim for a release in Q3 2019.
>
> We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we love contribution and any feedback.
>
> Exciting times ahead!
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Claus & Andrea
>
> --
> Andrea Cosentino
> ----------------------------------
> Apache Camel PMC Chair
> Apache Karaf Committer
> Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
> Twitter: @oscerd2
> Github: oscerd

Re: [HEADS UP] Work on Apache Camel 3 is beginning

[Onder SEZGIN <on...@apache.org>]

Hi,

+1 to website and JDK 11 comptability definitely.
One small note i want to say IMHO, velocity of adoption of new JDK releases
in some corp env is not as fast as JDK releases. I am not saying JDK is
super fast on new deliveries but in corp adoptions are somehow tedious and
not  easy.

it would be good if we have java 8 as the base minimum version.

Thanks,
Önder


On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:38 AM Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm agree for the website and we could also add a new dedicated page
> about Camel K ?
>
> Btw, I'm ready to help working on the website ;)
>
> Regards,
>
> François Papon
> fpapon@apache.org
>
> Le 12/12/2018 à 06:57, Willem Jiang a écrit :
> > Thanks for th Zoran, I think website is quite important for the user
> > find the documents and solutions.
> > We definitely could get some help from the community if we put it into
> > the roadmap.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:18 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Cameleers,
> >> exciting times ahead indeed :)
> >>
> >> I'd like to put the new website and work around Java 11 compatibility
> >> on the roadmap.
> >>
> >> I had a couple of days to experiment with Antora for the user manual
> >> and component documentation and thus far it seems very promising. Once
> >> I merry this with the Hugo static site generator for the rest of the
> >> pages we'll have a rough first pass of the new website (hope on doing
> >> that soon). We've had a great deal of interest in getting this done
> >> and few folks already helped or announced their willingness to help.
> >> And I'm not saying that the website will be done for Camel 3 release,
> >> I'd actually like to see it done in the next 1-2 months.
> >>
> >> For the Java 11 support, I think this should go in to the 2.x with our
> >> current approach of testing on Java 11 and upgrading component
> >> dependencies when they're Java 11 ready. All work on this is in the
> >> `java-10-test` branch. One thought I had is that we could introduce a
> >> `camel-java11-compat` dependency that would bring in the JEE APIs
> >> (JAXB and the rest) that were removed from Java 11. For Camel 3,
> >> perhaps we can make Java 11 the base minimum version -- would be good
> >> to get some feedback on this. One more thing we could try to evaluate
> >> is the use of Java modules, Camel 3, IMHO, should at least be Java
> >> module ready, i.e. have `Automatic-Module-Name` in the manifest.
> >> Perhaps we can count the number of component dependencies that are
> >> usable on the module path and see if we can go ahead and add
> >> `module-info.java` in (some?) of the components.
> >>
> >> zoran
> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:59 PM Andrea Cosentino
> >> <an...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>> Hello Camelers,
> >>>
> >>> We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple
> levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.
> >>>
> >>> The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of
> October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed
> deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other
> internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We
> plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped
> by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x)
> so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x
> branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and
> being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3.
> >>>
> >>> For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2
> more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.
> >>>
> >>> Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from
> Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the
> camel-core, etc.
> >>>
> >>> We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who
> has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a
> number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us
> quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade
> and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.
> >>>
> >>> Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap
> and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of
> goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the
> upcoming milestone releases.
> >>>
> >>> We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to
> avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and
> release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim
> for a release in Q3 2019.
> >>>
> >>> We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we
> love contribution and any feedback.
> >>>
> >>> Exciting times ahead!
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Claus & Andrea
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andrea Cosentino
> >>> ----------------------------------
> >>> Apache Camel PMC Chair
> >>> Apache Karaf Committer
> >>> Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> >>> Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
> >>> Twitter: @oscerd2
> >>> Github: oscerd
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Zoran Regvart
>

Re: [HEADS UP] Work on Apache Camel 3 is beginning

[Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>]

Hi,

I'm agree for the website and we could also add a new dedicated page
about Camel K ?

Btw, I'm ready to help working on the website ;)

Regards,

François Papon
fpapon@apache.org

Le 12/12/2018 à 06:57, Willem Jiang a écrit :
> Thanks for th Zoran, I think website is quite important for the user
> find the documents and solutions.
> We definitely could get some help from the community if we put it into
> the roadmap.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:18 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
>> Hi Cameleers,
>> exciting times ahead indeed :)
>>
>> I'd like to put the new website and work around Java 11 compatibility
>> on the roadmap.
>>
>> I had a couple of days to experiment with Antora for the user manual
>> and component documentation and thus far it seems very promising. Once
>> I merry this with the Hugo static site generator for the rest of the
>> pages we'll have a rough first pass of the new website (hope on doing
>> that soon). We've had a great deal of interest in getting this done
>> and few folks already helped or announced their willingness to help.
>> And I'm not saying that the website will be done for Camel 3 release,
>> I'd actually like to see it done in the next 1-2 months.
>>
>> For the Java 11 support, I think this should go in to the 2.x with our
>> current approach of testing on Java 11 and upgrading component
>> dependencies when they're Java 11 ready. All work on this is in the
>> `java-10-test` branch. One thought I had is that we could introduce a
>> `camel-java11-compat` dependency that would bring in the JEE APIs
>> (JAXB and the rest) that were removed from Java 11. For Camel 3,
>> perhaps we can make Java 11 the base minimum version -- would be good
>> to get some feedback on this. One more thing we could try to evaluate
>> is the use of Java modules, Camel 3, IMHO, should at least be Java
>> module ready, i.e. have `Automatic-Module-Name` in the manifest.
>> Perhaps we can count the number of component dependencies that are
>> usable on the module path and see if we can go ahead and add
>> `module-info.java` in (some?) of the components.
>>
>> zoran
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:59 PM Andrea Cosentino
>> <an...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> Hello Camelers,
>>>
>>> We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.
>>>
>>> The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x) so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3.
>>>
>>> For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2 more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.
>>>
>>> Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the camel-core, etc.
>>>
>>> We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.
>>>
>>> Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the upcoming milestone releases.
>>>
>>> We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim for a release in Q3 2019.
>>>
>>> We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we love contribution and any feedback.
>>>
>>> Exciting times ahead!
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Claus & Andrea
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrea Cosentino
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Apache Camel PMC Chair
>>> Apache Karaf Committer
>>> Apache Servicemix PMC Member
>>> Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
>>> Twitter: @oscerd2
>>> Github: oscerd
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zoran Regvart

Re: [HEADS UP] Work on Apache Camel 3 is beginning

[Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>]

Thanks for th Zoran, I think website is quite important for the user
find the documents and solutions.
We definitely could get some help from the community if we put it into
the roadmap.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:18 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Cameleers,
> exciting times ahead indeed :)
>
> I'd like to put the new website and work around Java 11 compatibility
> on the roadmap.
>
> I had a couple of days to experiment with Antora for the user manual
> and component documentation and thus far it seems very promising. Once
> I merry this with the Hugo static site generator for the rest of the
> pages we'll have a rough first pass of the new website (hope on doing
> that soon). We've had a great deal of interest in getting this done
> and few folks already helped or announced their willingness to help.
> And I'm not saying that the website will be done for Camel 3 release,
> I'd actually like to see it done in the next 1-2 months.
>
> For the Java 11 support, I think this should go in to the 2.x with our
> current approach of testing on Java 11 and upgrading component
> dependencies when they're Java 11 ready. All work on this is in the
> `java-10-test` branch. One thought I had is that we could introduce a
> `camel-java11-compat` dependency that would bring in the JEE APIs
> (JAXB and the rest) that were removed from Java 11. For Camel 3,
> perhaps we can make Java 11 the base minimum version -- would be good
> to get some feedback on this. One more thing we could try to evaluate
> is the use of Java modules, Camel 3, IMHO, should at least be Java
> module ready, i.e. have `Automatic-Module-Name` in the manifest.
> Perhaps we can count the number of component dependencies that are
> usable on the module path and see if we can go ahead and add
> `module-info.java` in (some?) of the components.
>
> zoran
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:59 PM Andrea Cosentino
> <an...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Camelers,
> >
> > We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.
> >
> > The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x) so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3.
> >
> > For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2 more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.
> >
> > Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the camel-core, etc.
> >
> > We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.
> >
> > Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the upcoming milestone releases.
> >
> > We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim for a release in Q3 2019.
> >
> > We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we love contribution and any feedback.
> >
> > Exciting times ahead!
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Claus & Andrea
> >
> > --
> > Andrea Cosentino
> > ----------------------------------
> > Apache Camel PMC Chair
> > Apache Karaf Committer
> > Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> > Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
> > Twitter: @oscerd2
> > Github: oscerd
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Regvart

R: Re: [HEADS UP] Work on Apache Camel 3 is beginning

[Andrea Cosentino <an...@yahoo.com.INVALID>]

Great stuff Zoran! Thanks for this!

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  Il mar, 11 dic, 2018 alle 15:18, Zoran Regvart<zo...@regvart.com> ha scritto:   Hi Cameleers,
exciting times ahead indeed :)

I'd like to put the new website and work around Java 11 compatibility
on the roadmap.

I had a couple of days to experiment with Antora for the user manual
and component documentation and thus far it seems very promising. Once
I merry this with the Hugo static site generator for the rest of the
pages we'll have a rough first pass of the new website (hope on doing
that soon). We've had a great deal of interest in getting this done
and few folks already helped or announced their willingness to help.
And I'm not saying that the website will be done for Camel 3 release,
I'd actually like to see it done in the next 1-2 months.

For the Java 11 support, I think this should go in to the 2.x with our
current approach of testing on Java 11 and upgrading component
dependencies when they're Java 11 ready. All work on this is in the
`java-10-test` branch. One thought I had is that we could introduce a
`camel-java11-compat` dependency that would bring in the JEE APIs
(JAXB and the rest) that were removed from Java 11. For Camel 3,
perhaps we can make Java 11 the base minimum version -- would be good
to get some feedback on this. One more thing we could try to evaluate
is the use of Java modules, Camel 3, IMHO, should at least be Java
module ready, i.e. have `Automatic-Module-Name` in the manifest.
Perhaps we can count the number of component dependencies that are
usable on the module path and see if we can go ahead and add
`module-info.java` in (some?) of the components.

zoran
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:59 PM Andrea Cosentino
<an...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hello Camelers,
>
> We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.
>
> The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x) so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3.
>
> For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2 more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.
>
> Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the camel-core, etc.
>
> We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.
>
> Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the upcoming milestone releases.
>
> We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim for a release in Q3 2019.
>
> We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we love contribution and any feedback.
>
> Exciting times ahead!
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Claus & Andrea
>
> --
> Andrea Cosentino
> ----------------------------------
> Apache Camel PMC Chair
> Apache Karaf Committer
> Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
> Twitter: @oscerd2
> Github: oscerd



-- 
Zoran Regvart  

Re: [HEADS UP] Work on Apache Camel 3 is beginning

[Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com>]

Hi Cameleers,
exciting times ahead indeed :)

I'd like to put the new website and work around Java 11 compatibility
on the roadmap.

I had a couple of days to experiment with Antora for the user manual
and component documentation and thus far it seems very promising. Once
I merry this with the Hugo static site generator for the rest of the
pages we'll have a rough first pass of the new website (hope on doing
that soon). We've had a great deal of interest in getting this done
and few folks already helped or announced their willingness to help.
And I'm not saying that the website will be done for Camel 3 release,
I'd actually like to see it done in the next 1-2 months.

For the Java 11 support, I think this should go in to the 2.x with our
current approach of testing on Java 11 and upgrading component
dependencies when they're Java 11 ready. All work on this is in the
`java-10-test` branch. One thought I had is that we could introduce a
`camel-java11-compat` dependency that would bring in the JEE APIs
(JAXB and the rest) that were removed from Java 11. For Camel 3,
perhaps we can make Java 11 the base minimum version -- would be good
to get some feedback on this. One more thing we could try to evaluate
is the use of Java modules, Camel 3, IMHO, should at least be Java
module ready, i.e. have `Automatic-Module-Name` in the manifest.
Perhaps we can count the number of component dependencies that are
usable on the module path and see if we can go ahead and add
`module-info.java` in (some?) of the components.

zoran
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:59 PM Andrea Cosentino
<an...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hello Camelers,
>
> We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.
>
> The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x) so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3.
>
> For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2 more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.
>
> Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the camel-core, etc.
>
> We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.
>
> Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the upcoming milestone releases.
>
> We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim for a release in Q3 2019.
>
> We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we love contribution and any feedback.
>
> Exciting times ahead!
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Claus & Andrea
>
> --
> Andrea Cosentino
> ----------------------------------
> Apache Camel PMC Chair
> Apache Karaf Committer
> Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
> Twitter: @oscerd2
> Github: oscerd



-- 
Zoran Regvart