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Posted to dev@openwebbeans.apache.org by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> on 2010/01/14 13:41:06 UTC
[TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Hi folks!
I'm working on the Apache Implementation of JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
I already implemented an Extension for the javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module, but honestly think that this is not the right place, because it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
So, because those extensions are both JSF container independent and also CDI container independent, what about adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
The extensions I have in mind are
1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get called in an action. Which means that one will always get a fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the validation fails before the begin() can be called. The lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with the first view invocation and end at the end of the request in which the conversation gets closed.
3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay available until the end of the request and will not get destroyed after the action continues on a return "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
wdyt?
a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and 3)?
b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2 developers?
txs and LieGrue,
strub
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
you got me wrong - i didn't suggest to use the stuff of seam...
i also planned to suggest a module which offers portable cdi extensions for
jsf applications (like seam 3).
regards,
gerhard
http://www.irian.at
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2010/1/15 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Gerhard Petracek
> <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi,
> > as i know the next seam version will provide portable cdi extensions.
>
> lgpl => not suitable :-)
>
> > i also thought about suggesting an extensions module for myfaces which
> > provides such portable cdi extensions (for jsf applications).
> > so i created [1] to collect some ideas.
>
> Let's do stuff here, in myfaces; would be a nice "cross-community"
> effort (OWB meets MyFaces)
>
> -Matthias
>
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Extensions/CDI/DevDoc/Drafts
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
> >
> > 2010/1/15 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> >>
> >> Hey Mark,
> >>
> >> I created the empty structure:
> >> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi/
> >>
> >> regarding the pom.xml "layout", please inherit from MyFaces_version:6:
> >> <parent>
> >> <groupId>org.apache.myfaces</groupId>
> >> <artifactId>myfaces</artifactId>
> >> <version>6</version>
> >> </parent>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/validator/trunk/pom.xml
> >>
> >>
> >> Ah, during that I noticed the "scripting" extension is not following
> >> that pattern;
> >> will fix that soon :-)
> >>
> >> If you need more, ping us here; Patches are supposed to be submitted
> >> against this jira instance,
> >> eh... nothing like that is there yet ... Ok.. :-)
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <
> matzew@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> Oki, sounds good to me!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Which things to start with?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease
> the
> >> >>> life of a JSF developer.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is
> >> >>> pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And who is doing the project setup?
> >> >>
> >> >> here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ?
> >> >
> >> > what name should we use "cdi" or "openwebbeans" ?
> >> >
> >> > I think that CDI is probably enough..
> >> >
> >> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
> >> >
> >> > We would have a
> >> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi
> >> > SOON..
> >> >
> >> > -Matthias
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> txs and LieGrue,
> >> >>> strub
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
> >> >>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
> >> >>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
> >> >>>> also +1 for a new extensions module!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Regards,
> >> >>>> Jakob
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> +1 for a new extensions
> >> >>>> module
> >> >>>> regards,gerhard
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.irian.at
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> >>>> Courses in English and German
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
> >> >>>> <ma...@apache.org>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hey Mark,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > Hi folks!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of
> >> >>>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more
> >> >>>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > I already implemented an Extension for the
> >> >>>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module,
> >> >>>> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because
> >> >>>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few
> >> >>>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container
> >> >>>> independent and also CDI container independent, what about
> >> >>>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > The extensions I have in mind are
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as
> >> >>>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually
> >> >>>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as
> >> >>>> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get
> >> >>>> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a
> >> >>>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the
> >> >>>> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The
> >> >>>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with
> >> >>>> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
> >> >>>> in which the conversation gets closed.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> that's neat;
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the
> >> >>>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay
> >> >>>> available until the end of the request and will not get
> >> >>>> destroyed after the action continues on a return
> >> >>>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following
> >> >>>> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any
> >> >>>> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> not sure I get that :-)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > wdyt?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and
> >> >>>> 3)?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> No.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Why not adding to here:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> or
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> That would make them also independent for a certain
> >> >>>> component suite ;-)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2
> >> >>>> developers?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> sounds useful to me!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -Matthias
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > txs and LieGrue,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > strub
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Matthias Wessendorf
> >> >>
> >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >> >
> >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>
> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Gerhard Petracek
<ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
> as i know the next seam version will provide portable cdi extensions.
lgpl => not suitable :-)
> i also thought about suggesting an extensions module for myfaces which
> provides such portable cdi extensions (for jsf applications).
> so i created [1] to collect some ideas.
Let's do stuff here, in myfaces; would be a nice "cross-community"
effort (OWB meets MyFaces)
-Matthias
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Extensions/CDI/DevDoc/Drafts
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
>
> 2010/1/15 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
>>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>> I created the empty structure:
>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi/
>>
>> regarding the pom.xml "layout", please inherit from MyFaces_version:6:
>> <parent>
>> <groupId>org.apache.myfaces</groupId>
>> <artifactId>myfaces</artifactId>
>> <version>6</version>
>> </parent>
>>
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/validator/trunk/pom.xml
>>
>>
>> Ah, during that I noticed the "scripting" extension is not following
>> that pattern;
>> will fix that soon :-)
>>
>> If you need more, ping us here; Patches are supposed to be submitted
>> against this jira instance,
>> eh... nothing like that is there yet ... Ok.. :-)
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Oki, sounds good to me!
>> >>>
>> >>> Which things to start with?
>> >>>
>> >>> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease the
>> >>> life of a JSF developer.
>> >>>
>> >>> Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is
>> >>> pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas...
>> >>>
>> >>> And who is doing the project setup?
>> >>
>> >> here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ?
>> >
>> > what name should we use "cdi" or "openwebbeans" ?
>> >
>> > I think that CDI is probably enough..
>> >
>> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>> >
>> > We would have a
>> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi
>> > SOON..
>> >
>> > -Matthias
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> txs and LieGrue,
>> >>> strub
>> >>>
>> >>> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
>> >>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
>> >>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
>> >>>> also +1 for a new extensions module!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Jakob
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> +1 for a new extensions
>> >>>> module
>> >>>> regards,gerhard
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.irian.at
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> >>>> Courses in English and German
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
>> >>>> <ma...@apache.org>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hey Mark,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Hi folks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of
>> >>>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more
>> >>>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > I already implemented an Extension for the
>> >>>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module,
>> >>>> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because
>> >>>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few
>> >>>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container
>> >>>> independent and also CDI container independent, what about
>> >>>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > The extensions I have in mind are
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as
>> >>>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually
>> >>>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as
>> >>>> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get
>> >>>> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a
>> >>>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the
>> >>>> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The
>> >>>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with
>> >>>> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
>> >>>> in which the conversation gets closed.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> that's neat;
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the
>> >>>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay
>> >>>> available until the end of the request and will not get
>> >>>> destroyed after the action continues on a return
>> >>>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following
>> >>>> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any
>> >>>> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> not sure I get that :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > wdyt?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and
>> >>>> 3)?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Why not adding to here:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> or
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That would make them also independent for a certain
>> >>>> component suite ;-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2
>> >>>> developers?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> sounds useful to me!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Matthias
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > txs and LieGrue,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > strub
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> >>>>
>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Matthias Wessendorf
>> >>
>> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matthias Wessendorf
>> >
>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
hi,
as i know the next seam version will provide portable cdi extensions.
i also thought about suggesting an extensions module for myfaces which
provides such portable cdi extensions (for jsf applications).
so i created [1] to collect some ideas.
regards,
gerhard
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Extensions/CDI/DevDoc/Drafts
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
2010/1/15 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> Hey Mark,
>
> I created the empty structure:
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi/
>
> regarding the pom.xml "layout", please inherit from MyFaces_version:6:
> <parent>
> <groupId>org.apache.myfaces</groupId>
> <artifactId>myfaces</artifactId>
> <version>6</version>
> </parent>
>
>
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/validator/trunk/pom.xml
>
>
> Ah, during that I noticed the "scripting" extension is not following
> that pattern;
> will fix that soon :-)
>
> If you need more, ping us here; Patches are supposed to be submitted
> against this jira instance,
> eh... nothing like that is there yet ... Ok.. :-)
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> wrote:
> >>> Oki, sounds good to me!
> >>>
> >>> Which things to start with?
> >>>
> >>> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease the
> life of a JSF developer.
> >>>
> >>> Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is
> pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas...
> >>>
> >>> And who is doing the project setup?
> >>
> >> here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ?
> >
> > what name should we use "cdi" or "openwebbeans" ?
> >
> > I think that CDI is probably enough..
> >
> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
> >
> > We would have a
> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi
> > SOON..
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> txs and LieGrue,
> >>> strub
> >>>
> >>> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
> >>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
> >>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
> >>>> also +1 for a new extensions module!
> >>>>
> >>>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Jakob
> >>>>
> >>>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 for a new extensions
> >>>> module
> >>>> regards,gerhard
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>
> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>> <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey Mark,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Hi folks!
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of
> >>>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more
> >>>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > I already implemented an Extension for the
> >>>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module,
> >>>> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because
> >>>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few
> >>>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container
> >>>> independent and also CDI container independent, what about
> >>>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > The extensions I have in mind are
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as
> >>>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually
> >>>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as
> >>>> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get
> >>>> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a
> >>>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the
> >>>> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The
> >>>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with
> >>>> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
> >>>> in which the conversation gets closed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> that's neat;
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the
> >>>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay
> >>>> available until the end of the request and will not get
> >>>> destroyed after the action continues on a return
> >>>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following
> >>>> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any
> >>>> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> not sure I get that :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > wdyt?
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and
> >>>> 3)?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> No.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why not adding to here:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That would make them also independent for a certain
> >>>> component suite ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2
> >>>> developers?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> sounds useful to me!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Matthias
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > txs and LieGrue,
> >>>>
> >>>> > strub
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>>>
> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>
> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hey Mark,
I created the empty structure:
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi/
regarding the pom.xml "layout", please inherit from MyFaces_version:6:
<parent>
<groupId>org.apache.myfaces</groupId>
<artifactId>myfaces</artifactId>
<version>6</version>
</parent>
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/validator/trunk/pom.xml
Ah, during that I noticed the "scripting" extension is not following
that pattern;
will fix that soon :-)
If you need more, ping us here; Patches are supposed to be submitted
against this jira instance,
eh... nothing like that is there yet ... Ok.. :-)
-Matthias
-Matthias
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>> Oki, sounds good to me!
>>>
>>> Which things to start with?
>>>
>>> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease the life of a JSF developer.
>>>
>>> Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas...
>>>
>>> And who is doing the project setup?
>>
>> here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ?
>
> what name should we use "cdi" or "openwebbeans" ?
>
> I think that CDI is probably enough..
>
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>
> We would have a
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi
> SOON..
>
> -Matthias
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> txs and LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
>>>> also +1 for a new extensions module!
>>>>
>>>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jakob
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for a new extensions
>>>> module
>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
>>>> <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Mark,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi folks!
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of
>>>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more
>>>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > I already implemented an Extension for the
>>>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module,
>>>> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because
>>>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few
>>>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container
>>>> independent and also CDI container independent, what about
>>>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > The extensions I have in mind are
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as
>>>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually
>>>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as
>>>> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get
>>>> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a
>>>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the
>>>> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The
>>>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with
>>>> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
>>>> in which the conversation gets closed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that's neat;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the
>>>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay
>>>> available until the end of the request and will not get
>>>> destroyed after the action continues on a return
>>>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following
>>>> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any
>>>> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> not sure I get that :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > wdyt?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and
>>>> 3)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Why not adding to here:
>>>>
>>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would make them also independent for a certain
>>>> component suite ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2
>>>> developers?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sounds useful to me!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Matthias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > txs and LieGrue,
>>>>
>>>> > strub
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>>
>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
yes, cdi please, beceause it's really KSR-299 container independent. Otherwise I would check it in to OWB ;)
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Fri, 1/15/10, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> From: Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 7:15 AM
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM,
> Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> wrote:
> >> Oki, sounds good to me!
> >>
> >> Which things to start with?
> >>
> >> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes
> which might ease the life of a JSF developer.
> >>
> >> Another area are interceptors. Doing a
> @Transactional interceptor is pretty easy. @Secured
> interceptor? just a few ideas...
> >>
> >> And who is doing the project setup?
> >
> > here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ?
>
> what name should we use "cdi" or "openwebbeans" ?
>
> I think that CDI is probably enough..
>
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>
> We would have a
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi
> SOON..
>
> -Matthias
>
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> txs and LieGrue,
> >> strub
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to
> tomahawk?
> >>> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
> >>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
> >>> also +1 for a new extensions module!
> >>>
> >>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that
> too :)
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Jakob
> >>>
> >>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> +1 for a new extensions
> >>> module
> >>> regards,gerhard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>
> >>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>> Courses in English and German
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
> >>> <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hey Mark,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg
> <st...@yahoo.de>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi folks!
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation
> of
> >>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward
> to add more
> >>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI
> extensions.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > I already implemented an Extension for
> the
> >>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our
> openwebbeans-jsf module,
> >>> but honestly think that this is not the right
> place, because
> >>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus,
> I have a few
> >>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF
> community.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF
> container
> >>> independent and also CDI container
> independent, what about
> >>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > The extensions I have in mind are
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the
> @ViewScoped as
> >>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to
> tomahawk.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped.
> Usually
> >>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same
> lifecycle as
> >>> @RequestScoped beans if no
> Conversation#begin() will get
> >>> called in an action. Which means that one will
> always get a
> >>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean
> if e.g. the
> >>> validation fails before the begin() can be
> called. The
> >>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean
> would begin with
> >>> the first view invocation and end at the end
> of the request
> >>> in which the conversation gets closed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> that's neat;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is
> basically the
> >>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual
> instance will stay
> >>> available until the end of the request and
> will not get
> >>> destroyed after the action continues on a
> return
> >>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the
> following
> >>> view accesses the same bean as the previous
> view - any
> >>> suggestions on how this should behave are
> welcome.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> not sure I get that :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > wdyt?
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least
> for 2 and
> >>> 3)?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No.
> >>>
> >>> Why not adding to here:
> >>>
> >>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> or
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That would make them also independent for a
> certain
> >>> component suite ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > b) would the functionality be useful for
> JSF-2
> >>> developers?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> sounds useful to me!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Matthias
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> > txs and LieGrue,
> >>>
> >>> > strub
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>>
> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>>
> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>> Oki, sounds good to me!
>>
>> Which things to start with?
>>
>> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease the life of a JSF developer.
>>
>> Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas...
>>
>> And who is doing the project setup?
>
> here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ?
what name should we use "cdi" or "openwebbeans" ?
I think that CDI is probably enough..
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
We would have a
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi
SOON..
-Matthias
>
>
>
>>
>> txs and LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
>>> also +1 for a new extensions module!
>>>
>>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jakob
>>>
>>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> +1 for a new extensions
>>> module
>>> regards,gerhard
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>
>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> Courses in English and German
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
>>> <ma...@apache.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Mark,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi folks!
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of
>>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more
>>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > I already implemented an Extension for the
>>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module,
>>> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because
>>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few
>>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container
>>> independent and also CDI container independent, what about
>>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > The extensions I have in mind are
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as
>>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually
>>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as
>>> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get
>>> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a
>>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the
>>> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The
>>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with
>>> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
>>> in which the conversation gets closed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that's neat;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the
>>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay
>>> available until the end of the request and will not get
>>> destroyed after the action continues on a return
>>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following
>>> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any
>>> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> not sure I get that :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > wdyt?
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and
>>> 3)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Why not adding to here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That would make them also independent for a certain
>>> component suite ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2
>>> developers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sounds useful to me!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > txs and LieGrue,
>>>
>>> > strub
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Oki, sounds good to me!
>
> Which things to start with?
>
> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease the life of a JSF developer.
>
> Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas...
>
> And who is doing the project setup?
here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ?
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
>> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
>> also +1 for a new extensions module!
>>
>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jakob
>>
>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
>>
>> +1 for a new extensions
>> module
>> regards,gerhard
>>
>>
>> http://www.irian.at
>>
>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> Courses in English and German
>>
>>
>>
>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
>> <ma...@apache.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi folks!
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of
>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more
>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I already implemented an Extension for the
>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module,
>> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because
>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few
>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container
>> independent and also CDI container independent, what about
>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > The extensions I have in mind are
>>
>> >
>>
>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as
>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually
>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as
>> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get
>> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a
>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the
>> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The
>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with
>> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
>> in which the conversation gets closed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> that's neat;
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the
>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay
>> available until the end of the request and will not get
>> destroyed after the action continues on a return
>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following
>> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any
>> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> not sure I get that :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> > wdyt?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and
>> 3)?
>>
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Why not adding to here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
>>
>>
>>
>> or
>>
>>
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>>
>>
>>
>> That would make them also independent for a certain
>> component suite ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2
>> developers?
>>
>>
>>
>> sounds useful to me!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > txs and LieGrue,
>>
>> > strub
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>>
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Oki, sounds good to me!
Which things to start with?
As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease the life of a JSF developer.
Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas...
And who is doing the project setup?
txs and LieGrue,
strub
--- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
> To: "MyFaces Development" <de...@myfaces.apache.org>
> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM
> also +1 for a new extensions module!
>
> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
>
> Regards,
> Jakob
>
> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
>
> +1 for a new extensions
> module
> regards,gerhard
>
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
>
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
>
>
> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf
> <ma...@apache.org>
>
>
>
> Hey Mark,
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks!
>
> >
>
> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of
> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more
> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
>
> >
>
> > I already implemented an Extension for the
> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module,
> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because
> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few
> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container
> independent and also CDI container independent, what about
> adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>
> >
>
> > The extensions I have in mind are
>
> >
>
> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as
> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>
> >
>
> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually
> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as
> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get
> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a
> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the
> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The
> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with
> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
> in which the conversation gets closed.
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> that's neat;
>
>
>
>
>
> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the
> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay
> available until the end of the request and will not get
> destroyed after the action continues on a return
> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following
> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any
> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> not sure I get that :-)
>
>
>
> > wdyt?
>
> >
>
> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and
> 3)?
>
>
>
> No.
>
> Why not adding to here:
>
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
>
>
>
> or
>
>
>
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>
>
>
> That would make them also independent for a certain
> component suite ;-)
>
>
>
> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2
> developers?
>
>
>
> sounds useful to me!
>
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > txs and LieGrue,
>
> > strub
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
>
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>.
also +1 for a new extensions module!
..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :)
Regards,
Jakob
2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> +1 for a new extensions module
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
>
> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
>
> Hey Mark,
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>> > Hi folks!
>> >
>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm
>> looking forward to add more support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI
>> extensions.
>> >
>> > I already implemented an Extension for the javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped
>> in our openwebbeans-jsf module, but honestly think that this is not the
>> right place, because it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a
>> few other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>> >
>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container independent and also
>> CDI container independent, what about adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>> >
>> > The extensions I have in mind are
>> >
>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as mentioned above from
>> openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>> >
>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually @ConversationScoped beans
>> have the same lifecycle as @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin()
>> will get called in an action. Which means that one will always get a fresh
>> instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the validation fails before
>> the begin() can be called. The lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean
>> would begin with the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
>> in which the conversation gets closed.
>> >
>>
>> that's neat;
>>
>>
>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the same as @ViewScoped,
>> but the contextual instance will stay available until the end of the request
>> and will not get destroyed after the action continues on a return
>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following view accesses the same bean
>> as the previous view - any suggestions on how this should behave are
>> welcome.
>> >
>>
>> not sure I get that :-)
>>
>> > wdyt?
>> >
>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and 3)?
>>
>> No.
>> Why not adding to here:
>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
>>
>> or
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>>
>> That would make them also independent for a certain component suite ;-)
>>
>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2 developers?
>>
>> sounds useful to me!
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > txs and LieGrue,
>> > strub
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>
>
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
+1 for a new extensions module
regards,
gerhard
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> Hey Mark,
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > Hi folks!
> >
> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm
> looking forward to add more support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI
> extensions.
> >
> > I already implemented an Extension for the javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped
> in our openwebbeans-jsf module, but honestly think that this is not the
> right place, because it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a
> few other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
> >
> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container independent and also
> CDI container independent, what about adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
> >
> > The extensions I have in mind are
> >
> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as mentioned above from
> openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
> >
> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually @ConversationScoped beans have
> the same lifecycle as @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will
> get called in an action. Which means that one will always get a fresh
> instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the validation fails before
> the begin() can be called. The lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean
> would begin with the first view invocation and end at the end of the request
> in which the conversation gets closed.
> >
>
> that's neat;
>
>
> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the same as @ViewScoped,
> but the contextual instance will stay available until the end of the request
> and will not get destroyed after the action continues on a return
> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following view accesses the same bean
> as the previous view - any suggestions on how this should behave are
> welcome.
> >
>
> not sure I get that :-)
>
> > wdyt?
> >
> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and 3)?
>
> No.
> Why not adding to here:
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
>
> or
>
> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>
> That would make them also independent for a certain component suite ;-)
>
> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2 developers?
>
> sounds useful to me!
>
> -Matthias
>
> >
> >
> > txs and LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hey Mark,
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> I'm working on the Apache Implementation of JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
>
> I already implemented an Extension for the javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module, but honestly think that this is not the right place, because it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>
> So, because those extensions are both JSF container independent and also CDI container independent, what about adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>
> The extensions I have in mind are
>
> 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>
> 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get called in an action. Which means that one will always get a fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the validation fails before the begin() can be called. The lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with the first view invocation and end at the end of the request in which the conversation gets closed.
>
that's neat;
> 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay available until the end of the request and will not get destroyed after the action continues on a return "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
>
not sure I get that :-)
> wdyt?
>
> a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and 3)?
No.
Why not adding to here:
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
or
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
That would make them also independent for a certain component suite ;-)
> b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2 developers?
sounds useful to me!
-Matthias
>
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk?
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hey Mark,
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> I'm working on the Apache Implementation of JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions.
>
> I already implemented an Extension for the javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module, but honestly think that this is not the right place, because it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community.
>
> So, because those extensions are both JSF container independent and also CDI container independent, what about adding them to tomahawk-2 ?
>
> The extensions I have in mind are
>
> 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk.
>
> 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get called in an action. Which means that one will always get a fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the validation fails before the begin() can be called. The lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with the first view invocation and end at the end of the request in which the conversation gets closed.
>
that's neat;
> 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay available until the end of the request and will not get destroyed after the action continues on a return "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any suggestions on how this should behave are welcome.
>
not sure I get that :-)
> wdyt?
>
> a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and 3)?
No.
Why not adding to here:
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/
or
https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
That would make them also independent for a certain component suite ;-)
> b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2 developers?
sounds useful to me!
-Matthias
>
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf