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Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User 
Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.

1) The ASF
2) The Project
3) The Documentation Team.
4) Listing the Individual Contributors

If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is 
definitely not my strong suite.

Regards
Keith


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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Dave Fisher wrote:
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Did you rewrite or reuse?
>>> If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.
>>> The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Dave;
>>
>> Thank you for your insight into this. The Guides were always going to be licensed under cc-by 3.0 or greater, and are a reuse of the 3.3 Guides by the OOo Authors Team. So the Copyright would be to The ASF with an Acknowledgement to the 3.3 Guide with its copyright. Does that sound right to you?
> 
> Yes
> 
> Best,
> Dave

Thanks very Much Dave.

Regards
Keith

>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
>>>> "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
>>>>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The ASF
>>>>> 2) The Project
>>>>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>>>>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
>>>>> definitely not my strong suite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>>>>
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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Did you rewrite or reuse?
>> If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.
>> The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Dave;
> 
> Thank you for your insight into this. The Guides were always going to be licensed under cc-by 3.0 or greater, and are a reuse of the 3.3 Guides by the OOo Authors Team. So the Copyright would be to The ASF with an Acknowledgement to the 3.3 Guide with its copyright. Does that sound right to you?

Yes

Best,
Dave
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
>>> "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
>>>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) The ASF
>>>> 2) The Project
>>>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>>>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
>>>> definitely not my strong suite.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful
>>> 
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>>> 
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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Dave Fisher wrote:
> Did you rewrite or reuse?
> 
> If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.
> 
> The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Dave;

Thank you for your insight into this. The Guides were always going to be 
licensed under cc-by 3.0 or greater, and are a reuse of the 3.3 Guides 
by the OOo Authors Team. So the Copyright would be to The ASF with an 
Acknowledgement to the 3.3 Guide with its copyright. Does that sound 
right to you?

Regards
Keith


>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
>> "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
>>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>>>
>>> 1) The ASF
>>> 2) The Project
>>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>>>
>>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
>>> definitely not my strong suite.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
>>
>> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful
>>
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
>>
>> -- 
>> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>>
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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
Did you rewrite or reuse?

If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.

The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
> "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User 
>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>> 
>> 1) The ASF
>> 2) The Project
>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>> 
>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is 
>> definitely not my strong suite.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Keith
> 
> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
> 
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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
> "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>>
>> 1) The ASF
>> 2) The Project
>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>>
>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
>> definitely not my strong suite.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
> 
> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
> 
Rory;

That was the basis for the 4th option in my original post. Thank you for 
your reply.

Regards
Keith



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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
"Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User 
> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
> 
> 1) The ASF
> 2) The Project
> 3) The Documentation Team.
> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
> 
> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is 
> definitely not my strong suite.
> 
> Regards
> Keith

Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf

-- 
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

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