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Posted to infrastructure-dev@apache.org by Alan Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> on 2015/03/16 14:14:14 UTC
Re: Brooklyn not in http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html
So, I've been futzing around with Syncope and the going has been slow. I seem to be struggling more with the framework and it's dearth of relevant documentation than actually getting a reasonable mock up working.
My question is, how critical is it that we use this framework? I think that I could've gotten a lot more done if I just coded something up in python. In my opinion, Given the fluid nature of this effort I think this is the way to go.
Once things have gelled and we have a firm idea on what needs to be managed and how, including the rest API, then we can make an effort to use this framework.
Thoughts?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:45 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>
> Nope, none at all.
> Please deploy software as .deb packages all via puppet, with
> configuration in the same place.
>
> --David
>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:46 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are still playing with the
>>>>>>>> backend provider, and one of the options I am looking at is using
>>>>>>>> Apache Syncope - this already provides many of the things you might
>>>>>>>> expect to code up.
>>>>>>>> Once we have settled on the backend, only then should you think about
>>>>>>>> writing something up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the heads up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, what’s the ETA for this?
>>>>> This is weeks away. I'll revert as soon as anything solid comes out.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tony,
>>>>
>>>> How are things going on this?
>>>
>>> While it's important, and we are still talking about it - we have a
>>> number of other pressing issues that are consuming lots of cycles.
>>
>> Would you mind if I ran with it?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
Re: Brooklyn not in http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.htmlhttps://projects-new.apache.org/
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
> On Mar 16, 2015, at 7:34 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com> wrote:
>> Alan,
>>
>> I think in reality, we care far, far less about the tool itself than we do about the deployment and management of it.
>>
>
> This is true, to a degree.
> What we don't want to do is to write something ourselves and then
> having the long term maintenance burden. The allure of Syncope is that
> there is a community of folks building and maintaining the software.
> The less we have to maintain the better.
I can see this point. My thinking is that our processes are pretty short and simple and Syncope with its workflow may be overkill. I think it’s way more important to identify our data files that we need to manage and present a coherent REST API for tooling and websites such as whimsy, projects-new.apache.org, and panopticon.
Anyway, I just want to get this done, as well as the REST API for EZMLM, so I can get back to my stalled panopticon project.
Regards,
Alan
Re: Brooklyn not in http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com> wrote:
> Alan,
>
> I think in reality, we care far, far less about the tool itself than we do about the deployment and management of it.
>
This is true, to a degree.
What we don't want to do is to write something ourselves and then
having the long term maintenance burden. The allure of Syncope is that
there is a community of folks building and maintaining the software.
The less we have to maintain the better.
--David
Re: Brooklyn not in
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html
Posted by Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com>.
Alan,
I think in reality, we care far, far less about the tool itself than we do about the deployment and management of it.
As David says, it must be deployed as a .deb, and be 100% in puppet and be idempotent too.
If you want help with this endeavour, please let me know and I can try to help you along.
--
Cheers,
Tony
On 16 March 2015 at 13:14:44, Alan Cabrera (list@toolazydogs.com) wrote:
> So, I've been futzing around with Syncope and the going has been slow. I seem to be struggling
> more with the framework and it's dearth of relevant documentation than actually getting
> a reasonable mock up working.
>
> My question is, how critical is it that we use this framework? I think that I could've gotten
> a lot more done if I just coded something up in python. In my opinion, Given the fluid nature
> of this effort I think this is the way to go.
>
> Once things have gelled and we have a firm idea on what needs to be managed and how, including
> the rest API, then we can make an effort to use this framework.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:45 AM, David Nalley wrote:
> >
> > Nope, none at all.
> > Please deploy software as .deb packages all via puppet, with
> > configuration in the same place.
> >
> > --David
> >
> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:46 AM, David Nalley wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Tony Stevenson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Alan D. Cabrera > >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We are still playing with the
> >>>>>>>> backend provider, and one of the options I am looking at is using
> >>>>>>>> Apache Syncope - this already provides many of the things you might
> >>>>>>>> expect to code up.
> >>>>>>>> Once we have settled on the backend, only then should you think about
> >>>>>>>> writing something up.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the heads up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW, what’s the ETA for this?
> >>>>> This is weeks away. I'll revert as soon as anything solid comes out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Tony,
> >>>>
> >>>> How are things going on this?
> >>>
> >>> While it's important, and we are still talking about it - we have a
> >>> number of other pressing issues that are consuming lots of cycles.
> >>
> >> Would you mind if I ran with it?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Alan
> >>
> >>
> >>
>